Red Sox are done.....

[Three Jack]

TMAC, You are about 2 years behind the rest of the world figuring this out!

I was thinking the exact samething....

[wayne1218]

The last time the Red Sox attendance was below league average was 1984. Prior to that season was 1966. Most of the other years they out-drew league average by 500,000 or more.

They were below league average twice in 40 years.

AGAIN frank, what's your point? They obviously will ALWAYS have more fans than most. That's like saying the Cowboys even drew good crowds when they sucked ... DUH!

[Three Jack]

Ive got your idiot swinging.. Better watch the fuck out it may just land in your mouth next time ya open it.

awesome! Love it! Go get 'em T!

[CheechB03]

My facts are VERY straight frank. 2 million?? Is that a big deal anymore?? Seriously???

Watch the Clems game against Seattle when he K'd 20 and NOBODY was there. I appreciate your knowledge but i've watched EVERY sox game since i was 10 and gone to a shitload, i know what i'm talking about.

Wayne, the league attendance stats prove you wrong. They've drawn over 2,000,000 ten straight season. The lowest attendance being 2.2 million. Aside from the 1994, the strike year the Sox haven't had attendance less than 2,000,000 since 1985.

Clemens struck out 20 in 1986 via Seattle. In 1986 Boston attendance was 2,147,641. The League average 1,798,052. The 20 strike game was early in the season vs. a very bad Seattle team.

[savage1]

I paid $3,500 for 2 tickets in the bleachers to game 6 of the '04 WS thinking it might be the clinching game. They swept and i got my full refund!

I would hope you got a refund for that kind of money.
There are no rights and wrongs when it come to valuations to see a baseball game;I simply draw the line as to how far I would go in patronizing something which I believe is wrong.
Hey-there are some folks who would think nothing of spending two dimes on a high priced Las Vegas hooker for a few hours. Again, it is a matter of valuation in one own's value structure.

[CheechB03]

AGAIN frank, what's your point?

The point? Win or lose the Red Sox will continue to draw fans to the park.

[wayne1218]

Wayne, the league attendance stats prove you wrong. They've drawn over 2,000,000 ten straight season. The lowest attendance being 2.2 million. Aside from the 1994, the strike year the Sox haven't had attendance less than 2,000,000 since 1985.

Clemens struck out 20 in 1986 via Seattle. In 1986 Boston attendance was 2,147,641. The League average 1,798,052. The 20 strike game was early in the season vs. a very bad Seattle team.

Frank,

Plain & Simple, i NEVER had a problem in the 80's or 90's walking up on GAMEDAY and buying a ticket. Did you ever try it or are you just reading numbers? If they could seat 100,000, they would probably have 15 million in attendance.

24,691 is not a HUGE average to reach 2 million in BOSTON frank. Your numbers are great to play with but your missing my point!

[wayne1218]

The point? Win or lose the Red Sox will continue to draw fans to the park.

So will the K.C. Royals???

[Blackbeard]

anyone think the mets are starting up a nice winning streak? most streaks go to 10-15 games, so they might take the next 4 or 5 if they hit 6 in a row after 2nite

[10DimeBry]

anyone think the mets are starting up a nice winning streak? most streaks go to 10-15 games, so they might take the next 4 or 5 if they hit 6 in a row after 2nite

the NL sucks

[wayne1218]

anyone think the mets are starting up a nice winning streak? most streaks go to 10-15 games, so they might take the next 4 or 5 if they hit 6 in a row after 2nite

Everyone should bet the Mets to Win the WS because they have a MUCH easier path to get there over ANY A.L. team!

[Blackbeard]

the NL sucks

So what....winning money does not suck, I'm trying to help out and thats all you can come up with? Lame

[savage1]

Wayne, the league attendance stats prove you wrong. They've drawn over 2,000,000 ten straight season. The lowest attendance being 2.2 million. Aside from the 1994, the strike year the Sox haven't had attendance less than 2,000,000 since 1985.

Clemens struck out 20 in 1986 via Seattle. In 1986 Boston attendance was 2,147,641. The League average 1,798,052. The 20 strike game was early in the season vs. a very bad Seattle team.

My general feeling is that for a long long time Sox have always been near the top in overall attendance, and probably would have led the league more if Fenway was bigger.
Sure there were times when park wasn't full such as that night when Clemens faced the Mariners.
However, I would say by and large fans for Sox have always been quite loyal for at least the last 20 years and even in the few years when they were not legitimate contenders.
Boston is a great sports town, and one has to simply go over to the Red Sox Forum every day to say how rabid the fans are.(there are quite a few "fever pitch" types).
Obviously if next year Sox finish under 500 and are out of the race by beginning of summer, it would take its toll on the following season(although management is slick and probably would create the impression in off season that the prior year was a fluke and that things would once again be rosy).
My overall impression is that the effect in Boston at the box office of a poor season would be quite less than it would be in many other cities given the same circumstances.

[10DimeBry]

Everyone should bet the Mets to Win the WS because they have a MUCH easier path to get there over ANY A.L. team!

not to win the WS. nl wont win it all. no way no how. AL is far superior to the NL, its not even close. mets pitching is suspect @ best. pedro and who else? glavine is as old as spark, El puke-A sucks, who else they got? john maine? oh i forgot they have that gas can billie jean wagner who impoldes in the clutch as well

[Three Jack]

anyone think the mets are starting up a nice winning streak? most streaks go to 10-15 games, so they might take the next 4 or 5 if they hit 6 in a row after 2nite

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Don't tell anyone...let us just fly under the radar.....