proof that Michael Moore is a Fuckin loser!!!!!

[10DimeBry]

guys the sargent that is suing michael moore is going to be on hannity and colmes tonight on fox news channel 9pm est. in case anyone wants to check it out

[griswold]

I'm willing to bet they offered Fatso Moore the chance to be on the show with the soldier and the coward declined,

[TwoTonTony]

I'm willing to bet they offered Fatso Moore the chance to be on the show with the soldier and the coward declined,

are you surprised??? if he can not spin the truth he will not appear......

[savage1]

savage....read my lips....it is not game playing....what i am saying to you is they are wired to interpret things differently....it is this stubborness on yours and other guys parts that make it easy pickings for guys like me......

women have different senses of humor.....they hear things differently..........men are logical....women are emotional......it is not game playing......

what you are referring to is what women do when they are not interested.....also common for women in their 20's......

you have been married twice....i am out in the shit daily....please take it from me.....i have been with alot of women......(do not dismiss as just getting laid)......some last longer, but i am not built for marriage.....

why is it that you can not just admit that this is how they are wired??? i say it is not an age thing....women like being talked to a certain way....appealed to on a different level.....and you keep changing it to something different.....

if you were fishing for shark with a worm of course you would not catch anything.......until you admitted you needed different bait.....

thank goodness you are married now....but i can see why you could not meet an american woman....you do not want to adapt.....

All I can say is that yes I believe a certain type of woman wants to be talked to a certain way, and she might not ever change-fine..
However, I know many women in my age range (remember I am somewhat older than you and thus feel I have a little advantage) who are not the same persons now that they were in their 20's and 30's and even 40's.
Many persons, both men and women, in fact change both in the way they think and act and are attracted to the opposite sex.
Just the fact that you have stated that you don't want to marry means that you might approach and attract a certain type of lady, perhaps one who is also not seeking marriage.
I maintain that a serious minded lady who really wants to meet a guy for marriage and definitely one who is a bit older would be beyond the stage she was in her 20's, 30's and 40's(sorry-that is the way I view it-if she is as you say wired that way, she is not for me).
It is one thing to talk to a lady in a certain way, but on the other hand, if she is really looking for a serious relationship, there should not be much beating around the bush(no pun intended) before discussing what each other wants out of life.
In essence, what you stated abovei is probably true of a great number of American women, and PRECISELY why many of them are not be my cup of tea;I have no time to waste with prefunctory nonsense and chit-chat.
The fact that many foreign women want to know what YOU are all about immediately without the pleasantries, small talk, etc. is exactly why they were for me.
Many of them were raised differently (obviously) and look at life and men differently and don't need/do the stuff you cited.
With my own wife, I didn't need to act and say things that weren't really me;I was just myself and I am very happy now.
My point is that if one has to act in a way/say things which iare not natural to him in order to attract a women for a SERIOUS relationship, then I think the relationship might not go anywhere because eventually the real self will show, and the lady might lose interest.
Perhaps one of the reasons that 50% of American weddings fail is precisely because the folks involved were not their real selves to begin with.
You call it "wiring"-I call it in many cases immaturity especially as stated ,if lady is in her fifties and doesn't want to know what the guy is about right away and assuming she is looking for a husband;there is such a thing as growth and evolving to another level with age and maturity;that is what I looked for.
Again Tony if it works for you and you always want to remain single, then great;it is not my style and doesn't fit my mode of thinking nor would it attract the kind of lady I would want to marry.

[TwoTonTony]

All I can say is that yes I believe a certain type of woman wants to be talked to a certain way, and she might not ever change-fine..
However, I know many women in my age range (remember I am somewhat older than you and thus feel I have a little advantage) who are not the same persons now that they were in their 20's and 30's and even 40's.
Many persons, both men and women, in fact change both in the way they think and act and are attracted to the opposite sex.
Just the fact that you have stated that you don't want to marry means that you might approach and attract a certain type of lady, perhaps one who is also not seeking marriage.
I maintain that a serious minded lady who really wants to meet a guy for marriage and definitely one who is a bit older would be beyond the stage she was in her 20's, 30's and 40's(sorry-that is the way I view it-if she is as you say wired that way, she is not for me).
It is one thing to talk to a lady in a certain way, but on the other hand, if she is really looking for a serious relationship, there should not be much beating around the bush(no pun intended) before discussing what each other wants out of life.
In essence, what you stated abovei is probably true of a great number of American women, and PRECISELY why many of them are not be my cup of tea;I have no time to waste with prefunctory nonsense and chit-chat.
The fact that many foreign women want to know what YOU are all about immediately without the pleasantries, small talk, etc. is exactly why they were for me.
Many of them were raised differently (obviously) and look at life and men differently and don't need/do the stuff you cited.
With my own wife, I didn't need to act and say things that weren't really me;I was just myself and I am very happy now.
My point is that if one has to act in a way/say things which iare not natural to him in order to attract a women for a SERIOUS relationship, then I think the relationship might not go anywhere because eventually the real self will show, and the lady might lose interest.
Perhaps one of the reasons that 50% of American weddings fail is precisely because the folks involved were not their real selves to begin with.
You call it "wiring"-I call it in many cases immaturity especially as stated ,if lady is in her fifties and doesn't want to know what the guy is about right away and assuming she is looking for a husband;there is such a thing as growth and evolving to another level with age and maturity;that is what I looked for.
Again Tony if it works for you and you always want to remain single, then great;it is not my style and doesn't fit my mode of thinking nor would it attract the kind of lady I would want to marry.

dude....you do not ever listen.....it is not a game or how people are.....WOMEN ARE WIRED DIFFERENTLY.....how come you can not see this??? why do companies sell their products differently to women??? because they are wired differently.....that's all i am saying....I CHOOSE to be single bro.....I am a true alpha male.....i do things on my terms and guys like you make it easier for me....i still do not understand how you fall in love over the phone....I think you miss much of the attraction phase which is important......

I think you as a 60 yr old guy in massachusetts who has a narrow view of women and wants someone younger could not have success here.......So you shopped where it would be easier and it seems to have worked for you....but please stop painting the american women so badly.....It is truly insulting.....to them and to me.....

It is all what you are willing to accept bro.....period....I do not accept women like you mention...and in fact most women would take adventure over money....in fact i laugh at guys who brag at what they have......

certain men were conditioned to think if they made money they would get the girl....others thought if they stayed in great shape they would get the girl......It is neither......it is mental....You can argue with me to you are blue in the face....when it comes to women i know them inside and out......Drop me off anywhere and i will come away with a top quality women....I do not care if it is vermont, florida.....the rest of the shit you guys talk about is excuses....i do not know politics....i do know women......

no more from me....i get frustrated when i hear shit that is not true...period

[savage1]

dude....you do not ever listen.....it is not a game or how people are.....WOMEN ARE WIRED DIFFERENTLY.....how come you can not see this??? why do companies sell their products differently to women??? because they are wired differently.....that's all i am saying....I CHOOSE to be single bro.....I am a true alpha male.....i do things on my terms and guys like you make it easier for me....i still do not understand how you fall in love over the phone....I think you miss much of the attraction phase which is important......

I think you as a 60 yr old guy in massachusetts who has a narrow view of women and wants someone younger could not have success here.......So you shopped where it would be easier and it seems to have worked for you....but please stop painting the american women so badly.....It is truly insulting.....to them and to me.....

It is all what you are willing to accept bro.....period....I do not accept women like you mention...and in fact most women would take adventure over money....in fact i laugh at guys who brag at what they have......

certain men were conditioned to think if they made money they would get the girl....others thought if they stayed in great shape they would get the girl......It is neither......it is mental....You can argue with me to you are blue in the face....when it comes to women i know them inside and out......Drop me off anywhere and i will come away with a top quality women....I do not care if it is vermont, florida.....the rest of the shit you guys talk about is excuses....i do not know politics....i do know women......

no more from me....i get frustrated when i hear shit that is not true...period

Ok-lets put it this way no matter who is right here if such a thing can be defined as either right or wrong(for example-I maintain age does make and/or should make a difference in the way a lady thinks-you say no):
First of all, in a way you actually confirmed what I said by saying I could not find someone YOUNGER here with my standards and way of thinking.
I could have found someone OLDER precisely because in my opinion many older American women are NOT wired the same way as younger ladies in their thinking processes, and if they are, I would probably not be interested.
You make it sound like ALL women are wired the same way;this is not true and my wife is a prime example.
I have also met a number of American women when I was YOUNGER at singles events who were not wired in the way in which you mention(they are not robots, and I think it unfair of you to generalize) and liked my no nonsense approach;I had some good relationships, but not enough to marry.
Perhaps the kind of women you choose to hang out/meet are wired that way, and thats great for you, and I am sure they are fine women for YOU based on what YOU want out of life.
But please don't try to see all women especially older ones are wired the same as younger ones.
I am older than you, and thus thus have been surrounded in my life by many older women, and believe me, many have changed, and the way in which they evaluate men. In some cases I call it maturity.
ps I would bet my bankroll that since our standards and goals are obviously different, your definition of a quality woman would differ greatly from mine, and that is no judgmental;it is perception.

[BettorsChat]

You guys need some pussy. I have a great idea Republicans go find a hot Democrat chick and take it our on her. Same for the Democrat dudes, go fuck the hell out of some conservative whore. Jeeze lighten up Francis

You've never had any Bush so what are you talking about.

[BettorsChat]

I'm willing to bet they offered Fatso Moore the chance to be on the show with the soldier and the coward declined,

The guy is suing him for $85 million

You don't go on a show and debate a lawsuit that's what a Court of Law is for.

[TwoTonTony]

Ok-lets put it this way no matter who is right here if such a thing can be defined as either right or wrong(for example-I maintain age does make and/or should make a difference in the way a lady thinks-you say no):
First of all, in a way you actually confirmed what I said by saying I could not find someone YOUNGER here with my standards and way of thinking.
I could have found someone OLDER precisely because in my opinion many older American women are NOT wired the same way as younger ladies in their thinking processes, and if they are, I would probably not be interested.
You make it sound like ALL women are wired the same way;this is not true and my wife is a prime example.
I have also met a number of American women when I was YOUNGER at singles events who were not wired in the way in which you mention(they are not robots, and I think it unfair of you to generalize) and liked my no nonsense approach;I had some good relationships, but not enough to marry.
Perhaps the kind of women you choose to hang out/meet are wired that way, and thats great for you, and I am sure they are fine women for YOU based on what YOU want out of life.
But please don't try to see all women especially older ones are wired the same as younger ones.
I am older than you, and thus thus have been surrounded in my life by many older women, and believe me, many have changed, and the way in which they evaluate men. In some cases I call it maturity.
ps I would bet my bankroll that since our standards and goals are obviously different, your definition of a quality woman would differ greatly from mine, and that is no judgmental;it is perception.

savage---you are one stuborn mother.....my standards are just as high as yours except that i like variety......
i never said women are robots...you make generalizations....i am giving them more credit than you.....you throw all american women under the bus because they did not "get you"....i am simply saying, maybe it is you...not them.....I will say it once more....you are a smart man....why you can not get this i do not understand.....women make decisions differently........they are emotional beings....if you ask me the better half......I have success in other countries as a visitor....ireland, norway, england....all on vacation......

here is my definition of a quality women; someone who is confident, has a sense of humor, adventure and a kind soul.....i do not need her to agree with everything i think....she also must be attractive and athletic....and most of all kind to people......

There are plenty out there right in our backyard....

i also did not say age did not change a way a women thinks....nobody is stagnant in this life.....we are different in our 20[s than we are in our 30's and 40's....i never mentioned this.....but it does not change how we and women specifically decipher information.....emotionally......they like feelings....It is a fact...Pick up a book......see how large brokerage houses sell to a women instead....they view investing differently.....they view life differently........

Watch a women shop....she shops....where a man makes a b-line and goes.........

I can see why you have not had luck......you do not know your audience and you are stubborn....You have rebutted things i have not even said.......Please read carefully before you respond.....

I am saying this in a nutshell: Women make their decisions based on emotion (not saying they are irrational if that is what you think)......this is how they decipher info....Many men approach women in the wrong fashion.....they do not get to know what makes a women tick.....Have you ever saw a guy who had his choice of all the hot ladies, yet he was not a real good looking guy??? what did he have? He knew his audience......All i am saying is that if you know your audience you really increase your chances with women......PERIOD......

Most guys go out with the goal to get laid and anything less is failure....this is a bad train of thought.....make friends with girls and build a network....nothing is a better testimonial than to have good looking girls as friends...because they have....you guessed it FRIENDS who are also good looking......


I could go on and on......You may know the ins and outs of going out of country to get a bride...and i do not....But you have really demonstrated to me why you could never meet someone........You have a very narrow mind and a poor perception of the lovely american women we have all around us.....

Sometimes it is easier to blame the women who deny us than to look in the mirror and realize the problem may be with us.....it is only then that we can change and achieve success.....

[BettorsChat]

C'mon tony you have read that book/e-mails that some guy named David something sends out? Your lines sound just like his. It's joking/sarcastic in a jovial way.

[savage1]

Tony-one very important thing I would want to add is this, and this is something I consider very important:
What percentage of very spiritual/ religious and moral American ladies have been ladies you have dated(or at least ones who have a strong sense of god), and what percentage of them would you say would be wired in the way you describe most American women?
I would say it would be dramatically different, and therein may lie the difference ibetween what you and perceive to be a quality woman.
Again no rights and wrongs here; I think my point is valid and should be considered.

[TwoTonTony]

i have dated women from 22 to 47 years old......There is no linear correlation between age and maturity level that i have found.....In some areas of life there is......but many younger women had their shit together more than some of the older ones.......Again there should be no generalizations about maturity........We all are on different life paths and mature at different speeds...some not at all......I know many women who are divorced and had the world handed to them their whole married lives and are not mature at all......And then younger ones who have paid for their education and created a career for themselves and bought themselves houses and so forth.....

anyways, savage, why i get sucked into your silly debates is beyond me......You tallking to me about women is like me talking to Trump about real estate......I may think i know something, but it would pale in comparison to trump.....

you will only find me in the gambling section.....You are like Ken Linesman used to be for the Boston Bruins and Flyers.....An Agitator.........humorous...but an agitator just the same.....you love to stir the pot.....and are good at getting people pissed......you are one funny bastard....but i have real life shit to deal with...peace

[TwoTonTony]

Tony-one very important thing I would want to add is this, and this is something I consider very important:
What percentage of very spiritual and/or religious/moral American ladies have been ladies you have dated(or at least ones who have a strong sense of god), and what percentage of them would you say would be wired in the way you describe most American women?
I would say it would be dramatically different, and therein may lie the difference in what you perceive as a quality woman and what I perceive as a quality woman.
Again no rights and wrongs here, and I think my point is valid and should be considered.

i have dated very religious women and am a devout catholic myself......Why do you assume that the women i date are not top quality????? They are doctors, lawyers, stewardesses, nurses, teachers, accountants, etc.......very fine people.....many go to church weekly....I in fact only date top notch people......It is not just american women who make decisions emotionally.....It is all women......Why do women love to see pics of babies and kids....because it speaks to their emotions......

When it comes to meeting women there are rights and wrongs....That is where you are wrong.....I am out there buddy, you are not........You took the path of least resistent....What you did is hardly dating....You went through service.....

I am sure your bride is great, but do not comment about a field that you have even admitted you have had no success

[savage1]

Tony-just respond to #146.
No offense, but you say you have dated up to age 47.
You really cannot say thus with any authenticty how many older women(late 40's to 60) can and do change.
In all due respect I think because I am older than you and thus have many friends much closer to my age than you, I think I am in a good position to talk about older women and what happens many times as they grow older(their mind set many times changes).
I think as most peoiple get older, they(both men and women) begin to think about many times including their own mortality, which in turn changes many things about their mindset;I again speak from experience.

[TwoTonTony]

Tony-just respond to #146.
No offense, but you say you have dated up to age 47.
You really cannot say thus with any authenticty how many older women(late 40's to 60) can and do change.
In all due respect I think because I am older than you and thus have many friends much closer to my age than you, I think I am in a good position to talk about older women and what happens as they grow older.

i think you just like to type....i already acknowledged that people change as they get older......so what.....it does not change how men or women are wired......What it does mean is that as people age, hopefully they have decided what they will and will not put up with anymore......So what....This has nothing to do with meeting women, if you are a good guy.....Who just happens to know how women tick....It is not rokcet science......For some reason you feel the need to be right.....I really do not care....I know what works and I could be married to many fine women, but i choose a different life....I love variety and before i hurt a woman I let her know my intentions....

I see zillions of guys like you everyday.....who stand on the sidelines and wonder why they are alone???? It is sad, but totally changeable.....but like an alcoholic....there has to be an admission of a problem....

Just because you areolder does not make you more of an expert......I taught classes to fortune 100 sales executives on how to read people....men/women alike....

It would be like saying just because you are older than Tom Brady, you know more about football.......

People are people......I know trends for all ages and thought process.....I have set up sales protocols for all demographics.....

You may be able to show them empathy because you are one.....This i have no expertise on......

But make no mistake about it......I know people....I deal with reading them on a daily basis.....


When it comes to politics i admit that i have shortcomings and i acknowledge it.....this however there is no i am right and you are too.....this is plain and simple.....I know how to approach and meet women.......And you know the online foreign dating services......That i do not know.....There is no shame in admitting a deficiency in a certain area.....I do it all the time and just did it again......