proof that Michael Moore is a Fuckin loser!!!!!

[TwoTonTony]

Nothing wrong with an opportunist as long as they keep it real. I see statements with resources like CNN etc. I don't see anyone disputing the sources.

i agree....i am an opportunist....so are you.....you are an entrepreneur.......It is when people are deceived when i have a problem with opportunity......

[ChangingMyLuck3]

yes Michael Moore is a prick. He needs to lose some weight too. The movie was terrible.

[BettorsChat]

i was referring to men as a whole....not you specifically.....but there are ways around everything.....looks have nothing to do with it......why do you have to get in depth with a women on what you do??? how about.....webmaster.......computer entrepreneur.....i do not delve what i do for a living with a women immediately.....

it is of little importance.....i am trying to lay a foundation.....create sexual tension, attraction and the "what do you do for a living"......"who was your last boyfriend"....and the regular shit is not part of it......

face it....women have a higher social value (standing) than we do...they can get laid anytime anywhere.....So how do we level the playing field......By increasing our social status.....It has nothing to do with job...etc....It has to do with confidence and being a little cocky/funny.......Most men see a hot chick and immediately kiss their ass....and what are women good at??? picking up on neediness and insecurity......and men exude this when a hot chick is around.....she will put them through "shit tests" ...like watch my pocketbook and so forth.......Men who get flustered and kiss ass are doomed....They are not only not getting laid.....no dates either......For some reason men feel the need to show their cards early......or talk about what they have.....Women do not tick this way.......They are emotional creatures.....they like mystery....spontaneity......etc....They love when a guy pays them little attention and is kind of confident....it makes them think..."hey this guy is kind of funny, he is not into me.....why not.....i am intrigued"....and so the sexual tension starts.....I know this seems like games, but it is how attraction is started.......

Monte---i am no prize...you saw the photos...but i consistently date hot women......some say i have the gift of gab...but that is not it.....I know women....

Here is an example real quick....I was hanging with a hot chick that i met at a st. patty's day party....i was busting on her a little......she then started the regular interview type questions and i say something like, "are these the interview questions they were handing out at the door"? kind of with a smirk......so i say, ok i will play along......then she proceeds to tell me that she is an accountant and i let her finish....I then extend my hand and say, "it was real nice meeting you, but i am a spontaneous guy and like to do things spur of the moment (girls love spontaneity).....and accountants if you do not mind me saying are kind of black and white...and quite frankly a little boring......I like to be passionate about life.....Accountants need everything in order....So it was real nice meeting you......

You may think she would be offended.....but what i was doing was forcing her to validate herself to me....and it played out that way....She went into defense mode and told me every reason why she was spontaneous.....thus elevating my status and reducing hers......She was hot......but they are so used to getting...."you are so pretty"....girls get hit on 100's of times a day.....they have heard the same old same old by just about every guy....they want the guy who is not like that.....


i am not a huge expert, but i do okay.......

all i am saying is their is a way with women that most of us just neglect and then put the blame on women in our society.......they are the kinder and gentler sex....i enjoy being with them alot....

Sounds like you've been reading some books. Every pre-dating event that I went to it came up about what I did for a living. And trust me it was always an issue that I work for myself. Maybe, because you live in a larger area its easier. The more women available the better your chances.

I find women in Foreign Countries have much different values than women in the USA. Another problem as you get older females either already have kids or don't want children. They've been divorced and have set a higher standard...etc.

I know how to joke around and be sarcastic with women in a playful way.

[BettorsChat]

i agree....i am an opportunist....so are you.....you are an entrepreneur.......It is when people are deceived when i have a problem with opportunity......

Then you would agree that the Repulicans have deceived. And you would agree that all Politicians have deceived.

My point all along is that Politicians IMO are all liars. I do tend to lean towards the Democratic party though, but would love to see 3 equal parties in our Government.

[savage1]

how can you say women outside of this country have better values....that is such a blanket statement....and then you say some people are liars and some are not.......same with morals...some have them and some do not......

I still say there are millions of great women here....if you can not get one....the problem is you.....not them.......

i believe men go out of the country because they can get someone who "needs them"....is that love????

i have never seen people who like to argue about bullshit stuff before in my life

If I may, allow me to add a comment here, as I feel I feel very qualified to speak here based on many experiences.
I think the term "better" values is a relative term:
To many in this country making a lot of money, and hence buying and possessing a lot of material things, having a spouse who is physically attractive in addtion to making a lot of money, etc. are very important values,
Obviously not everyone has these values, but a lot more do than do not.
On the same subject, if both potential partners in a relationship in the States think this( paragraph above) is what life is all about, then I think they have a reasonable chance of succeeding at least for a while.
The fact is as Tony pointed out that things can and do go wrong once the initial glamor and thrill of being married wears off, and each partner sees a lot more wrong with other person than he/she did initially.
Obviously, in today's society where many women have good jobs, it is much easier to walk away from the marriage than it was years ago when the husband was the sole bread winner in most cases.
In addition, if there are children involved, the lady usualy get custody of them and pretty good support payments(having worked for Welfare for 34 years and with DOR, I can attest to this).
The fact that 50% of marriages end in divorce corroborates all of above.
Now, lets take the other case and use me as an example:
To me the qualities of true love, devotion, spiritualism, a sense of being and examining the meaning of one's existence on earth, etc. are what count in a relationship.
Granted and in all fairness, I come from a well-to-do family and never had to worry about what kind of job I chose and wbout my financial future some day when my parents(now just my mom) is no longer living.
Ok-that being said, I really did look long and hard the last few years on the internet and didn't find anyone(see my commentary on dating services I just added last night).
Oh yes, I am sure that if lowered my standards and wanted to '"settle" for an older lady closer to my own age who has been around and who now agrees with my philosophy of life, I could have found someone.
However, having always been attracted to younger ladies(that is my mindset and a given), and having been married to a wonderful lady from the Philippines for 10 years(too much time gambling and not enough time with her are what wrecked that marriage although we(she and her new husband) are on great terms and talk every day), I decided that at least for me at my stage of life(last year 60), it was time to try something new and to put the odds in my favor.
That is why I wrote to women at latinamericancupid. com and mates1.com as well as joining Foreign Affair, where I ultimately met my wife.
Obviously it can be argued that some of the ladies from foreign countries will as Tony said marry a man over here because they need him to improve their way of life.
That is certainly true in many cases, and in reality has to be considered as part of the package.
That does not mean however, that such a lady is not also loving, devoted, etc.
I truly beleive in my own case that my wife ,being the devoutly religious and loving person she is, thought nothing of the material things before deciding to marry me.
I would be lying to say that she doesn't like the new clothes,etc. I bought her, but she is more concerned with things like decorating the house, painting and most importantly me, my well being and of course God.
In short, I can only speak for myself and my experiences and can say very honestly that I in fact did find a woman with values not necessarily better(again a relative term) but with values much closer to my own than I did with the American internet dating sites.

[savage1]

face it....women have a higher social value (standing) than we do...they can get laid anytime anywhere.....So how do we level the playing field......By increasing our social status.....It has nothing to do with job...etc....It has to do with confidence and being a little cocky/funny.......Most men see a hot chick and immediately kiss their ass....and what are women good at??? picking up on neediness and insecurity......and men exude this when a hot chick is around.....she will put them through "shit tests" ...like watch my pocketbook and so forth.......Men who get flustered and kiss ass are doomed....They are not only not getting laid.....no dates either......For some reason men feel the need to show their cards early......or talk about what they have.....Women do not tick this way.......They are emotional creatures.....they like mystery....spontaneity......etc....They love when a guy pays them little attention and is kind of confident....it makes them think..."hey this guy is kind of funny, he is not into me.....why not.....i am intrigued"....and so the sexual tension starts.....I know this seems like games, but it is how attraction is started.......

This is all very true over here and not to make a judgment, but at my age, I chose to seek a women who was beyond this stage and know what she wants.
I played those games earlier in life with both success and failures, and if ihey(games) work for you and others because of your own personalities, then I really think it is great.
In short, I think one has to chose a means meeting a suitable mate which fits his or her own personality and temperament.
ps All of these comments re:dating should probably be moved to a different thread(maybe my online dating thread)as they do not directly pertain to this particular thread.

[TwoTonTony]

face it....women have a higher social value (standing) than we do...they can get laid anytime anywhere.....So how do we level the playing field......By increasing our social status.....It has nothing to do with job...etc....It has to do with confidence and being a little cocky/funny.......Most men see a hot chick and immediately kiss their ass....and what are women good at??? picking up on neediness and insecurity......and men exude this when a hot chick is around.....she will put them through "shit tests" ...like watch my pocketbook and so forth.......Men who get flustered and kiss ass are doomed....They are not only not getting laid.....no dates either......For some reason men feel the need to show their cards early......or talk about what they have.....Women do not tick this way.......They are emotional creatures.....they like mystery....spontaneity......etc....They love when a guy pays them little attention and is kind of confident....it makes them think..."hey this guy is kind of funny, he is not into me.....why not.....i am intrigued"....and so the sexual tension starts.....I know this seems like games, but it is how attraction is started.......

This is all very true over here and not to make a judgment, but at my age, I chose to seek a women who was beyond this stage and know what she wants.
I played those games earlier in life with both success and failures, and if ihey(games) work for you and others because of your own personalities, then I really think it is great.
In short, I think one has to chose a means meeting a suitable mate which fits his or her own personality and temperament.
ps All of these comments re:dating should probably be moved to a different thread(maybe my online dating thread)as they do not directly pertain to this particular thread.

it is not a stage...it is how women are wired....

[TwoTonTony]

Sounds like you've been reading some books. Every pre-dating event that I went to it came up about what I did for a living. And trust me it was always an issue that I work for myself. Maybe, because you live in a larger area its easier. The more women available the better your chances.

I find women in Foreign Countries have much different values than women in the USA. Another problem as you get older females either already have kids or don't want children. They've been divorced and have set a higher standard...etc.

I know how to joke around and be sarcastic with women in a playful way.

i do not read books on picking up......i know by human instinct and psychology.....i have also watched what works and what does not.......it is more than saracasm....It is like fishing.....get them hooked....then give slack.....then pull in and so on......

anyways...if you want a foreign women now you are out of luck....i was just listening on the radio and they passed a law that will make it next to impossible to bring them in legally now.....may be forced to get an american woman

it says you went to pre-dating events.....that may be a problem right there.......As a man i decide who and what type of woman i want to date and i seek those types out......In my world i am in charge of what i will take and what i will not......I have lived in rural areas as well and i will agree it is harder, whereas in NYC you have more targets in a city block than you do in all of maine!!!

anyways, good luck.....my advice is to say you are an entrepreneur and if asked to elaborate....say something like, "it is top secret.....if i tell you i may have to kill you" with a smirk......then it goes to another topic......and if you can not do that just say it is just boring computer stuff......

but 1 thing for sure...that would not be my stumbling block if i were you.....

[TwoTonTony]

Then you would agree that the Repulicans have deceived. And you would agree that all Politicians have deceived.

My point all along is that Politicians IMO are all liars. I do tend to lean towards the Democratic party though, but would love to see 3 equal parties in our Government.

i do not know that....but i would bet it.....i am not into politics and i only jump into these forums because people are so polarized in their views and are not willing to even see anything but their own views.....i hate politics....but savage is so hell bent on bush every answer to every question is a question about bush telling the truth.....fact is i am sure the truth lies somewhere in between.......i happen to think more conservatively.......but certain issues i may not be......i do not think there is an absolute truth there....

[rwall]

Iraq Veteran Sues Michael Moore Over '9/11'
By DENISE LAVOIE
AP
BOSTON (June 1) - A veteran who lost both arms in the war in Iraq is suing filmmaker Michael Moore for $85 million, alleging that Moore used snippets of a television interview without his permission to falsely portray him as anti-war in "Fahrenheit 9/11."


Moore Money, Moore Problems


Sgt. Peter Damon, a National Guardsman from Middleborough, is asking for damages because of "loss of reputation, emotional distress, embarrassment, and personal humiliation," according to the lawsuit filed in Suffolk Superior Court last week.


Damon, 33, claims that Moore never asked for his consent to use a clip from an interview Damon did with NBC's "Nightly News."


He lost his arms when a tire on a Black Hawk helicopter exploded while he and another reservist were servicing the aircraft on the ground. Another reservist was killed in the explosion.


In his interview with NBC, Damon was asked about a new painkiller the military was using on wounded veterans. He claims in his lawsuit that the way Moore used the film clip in "Fahrenheit 9/11" - Moore's scathing 2004 documentary criticizing the Bush administration and the war in Iraq - makes him appear to "voice a complaint about the war effort" when he was actually complaining about "the excruciating type of pain" that comes with the injury he suffered.


In the movie, Damon is shown lying on a gurney, with his wounds bandaged. He says he feels likes he's "being crushed in a vise."


"But they (the painkillers) do a lot to help it," he says. "And they take a lot of the edge off of it."


Damon is shown shortly after U.S. Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash., is speaking about the Bush administration and says, "You know, they say they're not leaving any veterans behind, but they're leaving all kinds of veterans behind."


Damon contends that Moore's positioning of the clip just after the congressman's comments makes him appear as if he feels like he was "left behind" by the Bush administration and the military.


In his lawsuit, Damon says he "agrees with and supports the President and the United States' war effort, and he was not left behind."


He said that, while at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center recovering from his wounds, he had surgery and physical therapy, learned to use prosthetics and live independently. He also said that Homes For Our Troops, a not-for-profit group, built him a house with handicapped accessibility.


"The work creates a substantially fictionalized and falsified implication as a wounded serviceman who was left behind when Plaintiff was not left behind but supported, financially and emotionally, by the active assistance of the President, the United States and his family, friends, acquaintances and community," Damon says in his lawsuit.


Moore did not immediately return calls seeking comment Wednesday. A message was left for Moore at a personal number in New York and with HarperCollins, publisher of Moore's 2002 book, "Stupid White Men...And Other Sorry Excuses for the State of the Nation!"


A spokesman for Miramax Film Corp., also named as a defendant, did not immediately return a call.


Damon did not immediately respond to a request for an interview.


"It's upsetting to him because he's lived his life supportive of his government, he's been a patriot, he's been a soldier, and he's now being portrayed in a movie that is the antithesis of all of that," Damon's lawyer, Dennis Lynch, said.


Damon is seeking $75 million in damages for emotional distress and loss of reputation. His wife is suing for an additional $10 million in damages because of the mental distress caused to her husband, Lynch said.


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2006-06-01 07:10:27

[rwall]

I highlighted a few areas so they wouldn't be missed

[savage1]

it is not a stage...it is how women are wired....

I would say as women get older, the game playing does and should diminish in importqnce.
From my point of view if a woman is still playing the "hard to get" game when she is in her late 40's and 50's, I personally would not be interested in her for a meaningful relationship no matter what other qualities/looks she might have.

[jcindaville]

You guys need some pussy. I have a great idea Republicans go find a hot Democrat chick and take it our on her. Same for the Democrat dudes, go fuck the hell out of some conservative whore. Jeeze lighten up Francis

[10DimeBry]

GUY's this hour on sean hannity's radio show he is interviewing the guy who is suing michael moore.

ck it out if you can. AM dial

[TwoTonTony]

I would say as women get older, the game playing does and should diminish in importqnce.
From my point of view if a woman is still playing the "hard to get" game when she is in her late 40's and 50's, I personally would not be interested in her for a meaningful relationship no matter what other qualities/looks she might have.

savage....read my lips....it is not game playing....what i am saying to you is they are wired to interpret things differently....it is this stubborness on yours and other guys parts that make it easy pickings for guys like me......

women have different senses of humor.....they hear things differently..........men are logical....women are emotional......it is not game playing......

what you are referring to is what women do when they are not interested.....also common for women in their 20's......

you have been married twice....i am out in the shit daily....please take it from me.....i have been with alot of women......(do not dismiss as just getting laid)......some last longer, but i am not built for marriage.....

why is it that you can not just admit that this is how they are wired??? i say it is not an age thing....women like being talked to a certain way....appealed to on a different level.....and you keep changing it to something different.....

if you were fishing for shark with a worm of course you would not catch anything.......until you admitted you needed different bait.....

thank goodness you are married now....but i can see why you could not meet an american woman....you do not want to adapt.....