Deshawn Stevenson

[soonerbud]

Oh he will get suspended, he did it to the GREAT one.....over hype as I said. Lets see what happens to West, it will prove the point completely.......over rated always gets the call. Hell, in this case even over an MVP. What a Joke.

[LVJimmy]

So Jimmy, love your list, but one question. IF your numbers make you great theory is true. And James is GREAT, how can you leave Dimaggio off your list. His 56 game hit streak will never be broken IMHO, yet you think James is GREAT and he has done nothing even close to as hard as that accomplishment was.......YET you will throw the GREAT tag on him and Dimaggio isn't even in you top 5. I don't disagree with your list, but is the 56 game streak ever going to be broken....probably not. So with the numbers make you great theory, how can he not be there?

I agree that the hit streak is unreal, but that alone does not make someone Top 5.

[soonerbud]

So in his career thus far, James has done something "better then a record that has stood the test of time" to make himself great?

[soonerbud]

Again, we throw the name GREAT out like it is nothing......that my friend is my problem with the media and fans towards James. As well as what is wrong with sports today.

[soonerbud]

Just so you know Dimaggio won 3 MVP awards and led the Yanks to 9 World Championships as well as the hit streak.....no doubt top 5......his record will never be broken.

[frankb03]

ONCE AGAIN, HOW IS LEBRON OVERRATED?

James is a GREAT player! IMO he's overrated because ESPN and the sports media portray him greater than deserved. Last season they were comparing him to Jordon. Let him win at least one championship or have him put a few great years under his belt before we anoint him the greatest.

[frankb03]

yes, barry bonds is one of the top 5 of all time.

Not even close. He doesn't even crack the top-10.

[molta02]

Not even close. He doesn't even crack the top-10.

you are wrong.

[frankb03]

Barry Bonds was on Roids so his numbers are flawed, yes.

My Top 5 QBs

Marino
Brady
Elway
Montana
Favre

By the time he retires, Manning will be in this list...not sure who gets knocked out.

I know you mean Eli Manning. lol

[frankb03]

you are wrong.

pre-steroids he had a very good career. Pre-steroids he'd never be discussed with the all-time greatest.

Molta how old are you? My guess not very old. Another guess. Outside of Ruth, none of your top-5 baseball players played more than 40 years ago.

[frankb03]

Ruth
Gehrig
Dimaggio
Ted Williams
Mays

Are without any question far great players than Bonds. Those 5 come to mind in less than 5 seconds.

[molta02]

i'm 29. all of my other players would have played over 40 years ago. when a guy wins 7 MVPs, 8 gold gloves, all time HR leader, 500+ steals, on top of the slugging, walks, rbis, etc etc etc, he is definitely in the top 10, and IMO the top 5. the whole steroid thing opens a different can of worms, but base on his body of work (no pun intended), he is among the greats of the greats.


my top 5 would probably include ruth, mays, dimaggio, cobb, and bonds; but i'm sure many arguments for other guys. to leave ted williams off of any list is incredibly tough, so maybe throw him in there. i'm just going off the top of my head.

and regardless of my age, i would put my baseball knowledge up against anyone, although i think its alway risky to quantify the players we havent seen.

[frankb03]

i'm 29. all of my other players would have played over 40 years ago. when a guy wins 7 MVPs, 8 gold gloves, all time HR leader, 500+ steals, on top of the slugging, walks, rbis, etc etc etc, he is definitely in the top 10, and IMO the top 5. the whole steroid thing opens a different can of worms, but base on his body of work (no pun intended), he is among the greats of the greats.


my top 5 would probably include ruth, mays, dimaggio, cobb, and bonds; but i'm sure many arguments for other guys. to leave ted williams off of any list is incredibly tough, so maybe throw him in there. i'm just going off the top of my head.

and regardless of my age, i would put my baseball knowledge up against anyone, although i think its alway risky to quantify the players we havent seen.

IMO Gehrig is the 2nd greatest player behind Ruth.

Prior to 2000 and steroid use no one would put Bonds in their top-10 let alone top-5.

From 2000-2004 (age 35-39) Bonds hit 258 homers. In the previous 7 season, the prime of his career he hit 269 homers. Aaron the previous home run champs hit 203 homers from age 35-39.

Mays hit 123 homers from age 35-39.

[frankb03]

my top 5 would probably include ruth, mays, dimaggio, cobb, and bonds; but i'm sure many arguments for other guys. to leave ted williams off of any list is incredibly tough, so maybe throw him in there. i'm just going off the top of my head.

One can't leave Williams off their list. He lost 3 full season due the WWII. As did DiMaggio.

If you have Cobb in your top-5 where do you rank Pete Rose. I'm not suggesting Rose is better than Cobb.

[frankb03]

IMO when they talk about the greatest ball players they often omit pitchers. There's a handful of pitchers that have to be considered among the greatest.

Walter Johnson
Cy Young
Christy Mathewson
Bob Gibson

to name a few