Is LeBron Overrated?

[LVJimmy]

I agree...a lot of it is timing and teammates...who is the best player Lebron has played with in his career so far? Exactly.

Jordan is probably the greatest basketball player ever, but let's not think he didn't play with any other great players (Pippen). Lebron hasn't had anyone close to Pippen.

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Couldn't agree more!

[wayne1218]

I agree...a lot of it is timing and teammates...who is the best player Lebron has played with in his career so far? Exactly.

Jordan is probably the greatest basketball player ever, but let's not think he didn't play with any other great players (Pippen). Lebron hasn't had anyone close to Pippen.

How "Great" was Pippen after Jordan left? I remember a man struggling to be "The Man" and a guy who was famous for sitting, sulking, and refusing to go in a game. Pippen was great WHEN Jordan was there but i will ALWAYS believe Jordan MADE Pippen.

[Three Jack]

How "Great" was Pippen after Jordan left? I remember a man struggling to be "The Man" and a guy who was famous for sitting, sulking, and refusing to go in a game. Pippen was great WHEN Jordan was there but i will ALWAYS believe Jordan MADE Pippen.

You are right...Pippen would not have been top 50 all-time without Jordan but he is still FAR superior than any player LeBron has had.

[LVJimmy]

How "Great" was Pippen after Jordan left? I remember a man struggling to be "The Man" and a guy who was famous for sitting, sulking, and refusing to go in a game. Pippen was great WHEN Jordan was there but i will ALWAYS believe Jordan MADE Pippen.

Personally I think Pippen was overrated, but somehow he was voted 1 of the "50 greatest." Regardless, Lebron's team have been garbage until this season and I don't even think his supporting cast this year is that great.

[Three Jack]

When was the last time a team won an NBA Championship without at least 2 top tier players?

[wayne1218]

You are right...Pippen would not have been top 50 all-time without Jordan but he is still FAR superior than any player LeBron has had.

I agree but after Lebron's 6th Ring, i'm sure somebody will emerge as "That Guy" beside him ... Right?

[wayne1218]

Personally I think Pippen was overrated, but somehow he was voted 1 of the "50 greatest." Regardless, Lebron's team have been garbage until this season and I don't even think his supporting cast this year is that great.

I know and in my book, Pippen was great but not top 50. No Way!

[Three Jack]

I agree but after Lebron's 6th Ring, i'm sure somebody will emerge as "That Guy" beside him ... Right?

I ain't drinking that kind of koolaide...he ain't winnin' 6.....

[LVJimmy]

You are right...Pippen would not have been top 50 all-time without Jordan but he is still FAR superior than any player LeBron has had.

No way, Daniel Gibson is better!

[LVJimmy]

I know and in my book, Pippen was great but not top 50. No Way!

If they did the top 50 again, I doubt he would be included.

[wayne1218]

Who knows really, Mo Williams could emerge as that Star beside him. I think Mo is totally underrated!

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I wouldn't take Lebron on my team if you paid me, not as good as they say he is. I wouldn't trade him for Rick Barry!!! I think I will wait until he proves himself!

[mavskidd02]

I watched a TON of Marino games mavs and throwing 1 incompletion on a critical late drive to kill it doesn't show up in the yardage category, or anywhere else. Picks matter on when you make them too. When i think of guys Montana, Jordan or Gretzky, all i can remember is success. Times when they made plays to win games, and titles. When i think of guys like Marino, there are no great passes or plays that i remember to win a game or a title. They don't exist. Hell, Warren Moon threw for a ton of yardage but he too sits in the background in all conversations because he lacks the hardware.

What are your greatest memories of Marino? One thing, stat sheets. You have no great memories on the field because nothing led to GREAT success of anything in the end.

What are you talking about Wayne? Marino in the playoffs did not make too many mistakes at all. Yes, I'm going by stats because 15 years later that's all we really have that is concrete. Through the divisional playoffs-conference ship-super bowl the Phins only ever lost TWO games by single digit points. TWO GAMES, both divisional. For the majority of Marino's career, the Dolphins did nothing but win, or get blown out in the playoffs. So where are these GW drives that Marino blew? Or the HUGE interceptions that cost the team the game?

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Mav,

If you make too many good points, this thread will be moved!