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  • No doubt the two best teams got there. I am actually impressed at how the Celtics got there beating Detroit in Detroit. I have read several articles over the last few weeks about a Lakers Celtics match up and it seems it is what they wanted. Should be a great series. But I really think the Lakers and Kobe will be too much. I am not a big Doc fan, and love Jackson as a coach. I think this Laker team may just bring Phil another ring.

    I do have to tell anyone who reads this something. After months of "pounding" over my opinion of Lebron. I took a long hard look at him and tried my hardest to be non-bias. He as I have said before is an incredible athlete. By all indications one of the top 4 players in the NBA. And I do believe that when it is all said and done he will (YES even by me) be considered one of the GREATEST to ever play the game.
    It is amazing as the last few months have went by I have posed my question as to how does winning coincide with GREATNESS. In team sports I have learned it is hard to put so much weight on winning. And watching Lebron in the Celtics series, you could see why. Team sports are hard to use winning in the scenario. It is the reason it is easier to call Tiger GREAT or a pitcher in baseball GREAT (they basically can control their fate) in hoops and most all team sports that is hard to do. Lebron really IMPRESSED me in the playoff series against Boston, and I can actually say I have become sort of a fan of his.
    But more importantly then that, I have become a big fan of Kobe. If there will ever be anyone to compare to his airness, I think it will be Kobe. He can get his shot anytime, turn it on and off as needed and is such a leader. I have become a big FAN and really think he and his Lakers will get it done. When asked about the comparison to Mike, Kobe said "I am just trying to be the best ME I can be". I LOVE that attitude and have found a new appreciation for young King James! I hope every one enjoys the Lakers/Celtics series, it will be a blast to watch.
    "Just livin' the dream"

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    • Originally posted by soonerbud

      I do have to tell anyone who reads this something. After months of "pounding" over my opinion of Lebron. I took a long hard look at him and tried my hardest to be non-bias. He as I have said before is an incredible athlete. By all indications one of the top 4 players in the NBA. And I do believe that when it is all said and done he will (YES even by me) be considered one of the GREATEST to ever play the game.
      It is amazing as the last few months have went by I have posed my question as to how does winning coincide with GREATNESS. In team sports I have learned it is hard to put so much weight on winning. And watching Lebron in the Celtics series, you could see why. Team sports are hard to use winning in the scenario. It is the reason it is easier to call Tiger GREAT or a pitcher in baseball GREAT (they basically can control their fate) in hoops and most all team sports that is hard to do. Lebron really IMPRESSED me in the playoff series against Boston, and I can actually say I have become sort of a fan of his.
      People have been trying to explain this to you for months now. I guess you were just the last one to see it? lol

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      • Originally posted by soonerbud
        No doubt the two best teams got there. I am actually impressed at how the Celtics got there beating Detroit in Detroit. I have read several articles over the last few weeks about a Lakers Celtics match up and it seems it is what they wanted. Should be a great series. But I really think the Lakers and Kobe will be too much. I am not a big Doc fan, and love Jackson as a coach. I think this Laker team may just bring Phil another ring.

        I do have to tell anyone who reads this something. After months of "pounding" over my opinion of Lebron. I took a long hard look at him and tried my hardest to be non-bias. He as I have said before is an incredible athlete. By all indications one of the top 4 players in the NBA. And I do believe that when it is all said and done he will (YES even by me) be considered one of the GREATEST to ever play the game.
        It is amazing as the last few months have went by I have posed my question as to how does winning coincide with GREATNESS. In team sports I have learned it is hard to put so much weight on winning. And watching Lebron in the Celtics series, you could see why. Team sports are hard to use winning in the scenario. It is the reason it is easier to call Tiger GREAT or a pitcher in baseball GREAT (they basically can control their fate) in hoops and most all team sports that is hard to do. Lebron really IMPRESSED me in the playoff series against Boston, and I can actually say I have become sort of a fan of his.
        But more importantly then that, I have become a big fan of Kobe. If there will ever be anyone to compare to his airness, I think it will be Kobe. He can get his shot anytime, turn it on and off as needed and is such a leader. I have become a big FAN and really think he and his Lakers will get it done. When asked about the comparison to Mike, Kobe said "I am just trying to be the best ME I can be". I LOVE that attitude and have found a new appreciation for young King James! I hope every one enjoys the Lakers/Celtics series, it will be a blast to watch.
        IP check please! This can't be Soonerbud!

        I find it terribly boring to agree with you...you are removing all of the fun for me! first, no T Welch to pick on and now you coming over to the dark side...what's next? Dimer going on a diet? Wayne giving op the green stuff? Chado getting laid?
        Three Jack's Record http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/sh...10#post1323910

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        • Jack you are just WRONG!! lol Hey, when I am wrong I have NO problem admitting it. Just had to take my time and give James a "fair" shake. You know how us Wade fans are, we think he is the Chosen ONE. Don't worry I am sure something will come along that will allow us a fine debate soon! lol Until then enjoy the peace, I will.
          "Just livin' the dream"

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          • Originally posted by soonerbud
            Jack you are just WRONG!! lol Hey, when I am wrong I have NO problem admitting it. Just had to take my time and give James a "fair" shake. You know how us Wade fans are, we think he is the Chosen ONE. Don't worry I am sure something will come along that will allow us a fine debate soon! lol Until then enjoy the peace, I will.
            The funny thing is, other than your equating championships to greatness, I really didn't disagree with your view on LeBron for the most poart. I thought you were a bit harsh at times, but no more harsh than others who overly gloss over him. And as for his series against the C's, i didn't think he was that great...too many TO's.

            Enjoy yur night...Sooners Suck!!!
            Three Jack's Record http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/sh...10#post1323910

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            • celts play lock down D and bron struggled bad but his team played c's toughest so far cuz he a team player give him sasha vujacic over sasha pavlovic cavs prob win kobe is a hoe, mvp? change the thread title i'll take lebron first pick on my squad over kobe anyday and show u overrated
              edification will take place pull up the reins and get outta the race.

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              • Originally posted by live jive
                celts play lock down D and bron struggled bad but his team played c's toughest so far cuz he a team player give him sasha vujacic over sasha pavlovic cavs prob win kobe is a hoe, mvp? change the thread title i'll take lebron first pick on my squad over kobe anyday and show u overrated
                YUP -- LEBRON DOES MORE WITH A LOT LESS TALENT AROUND HIM


                IMAGINE BRON IF HE HAD ODOM AND GASOL ON HIS TEAM

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                • Good point but Ga"soft" was terrible, Odom inconsistent. The big Z for Cleveland showed way more heart.
                  NBA is a joke

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                  • You all are crazy if you think Lebron is better than Kobe imo

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                    • Originally posted by kbsooner21
                      You all are crazy if you think Lebron is better than Kobe imo
                      Arguements can be made on both sides. Bron has done quite a bit with a lot less talent around him. However...He also hasnt won any championships or even made a finals (cant remember if he's made a conf finals). But he also has been a lot less of a ball hog than #24 (untill this year) and has not only done well for himself but made his whole team better. While Bron has made the playoffs with lesser teams Kobe has struggled mightily while being on lesser teams. But there is no denying that Kobe is the better shooter and probably the better 1-1 offensive player. He's also an under-rated defender in many ways. But he hasnt made lesser players better around him. Which is what many people say made Jordan the greatest of the 1990+ era and something Bron does.

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                      • Originally posted by kbsooner21
                        You all are crazy if you think Lebron is better than Kobe imo
                        I WILL GIVE KOBE THE BETTER SCORER BUT LEBRON IS ALL AROUND THE BETTER PLAYER.LEBRON MAKES OTHERS AROUND HIM BETTER.KOBE ONLY MAKES PLAYERS AROUND HIM BETTER WHEN HE IS DOUBLED.LEBRONIS UNSELFISH AND I WOULD TAKE LEBRONOVERKOBE ANYDAY.AND I AM A KOBE FAN
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                        • Originally posted by poskid
                          Arguements can be made on both sides. Bron has done quite a bit with a lot less talent around him. However...He also hasnt won any championships or even made a finals (cant remember if he's made a conf finals). But he also has been a lot less of a ball hog than #24 (untill this year) and has not only done well for himself but made his whole team better. While Bron has made the playoffs with lesser teams Kobe has struggled mightily while being on lesser teams. But there is no denying that Kobe is the better shooter and probably the better 1-1 offensive player. He's also an under-rated defender in many ways. But he hasnt made lesser players better around him. Which is what many people say made Jordan the greatest of the 1990+ era and something Bron does.

                          PK
                          what??? bron made the finals last yr dude....also what has kobe won without shaq in his prime??? oh yea nothin yet
                          edification will take place pull up the reins and get outta the race.

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                          • BUMP!!!!...did u see the game last nite?? yea these were just from one game....cavs reg season last yr not so good record and change most team halfway thru and bron still took the champs to the limit, this yr start season w. set squad and add mo williams one of best rec in league right now... lebron doin things nobody can do athletically only player better maybe kobe and what did he win without shaq nothin...guys like wade, kg, chris paul good players but they cant impact a game every time out like lebron does---no way ....if lebron is overrated then everyone else is rated a d-league player or u just dont know basketball....Video-LeBron James 7 Dunks Versus Toronto Raptors - YouTube | NBA
                            edification will take place pull up the reins and get outta the race.

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                            • Originally posted by frankb03 View Post
                              DeShawn Stevenson Thinks LeBron is Overrated. Stevenson told Washington Post reporter Michael Lee, “He’s overrated. And you can say I said that.”

                              I agree with his comment. LeBron is great. However, like ESPN and the media often do, LeBron's greatness is blown out of proportion. Let him win a few titles before we compare him to Michael Jordan.
                              After the Olympics and this past season my opinion has changed. He's proven me wrong. Since the Olympics he's been on a mission. IMO he's the best player in the league.

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                              • NO ONE will match Michael Jordan...

                                Originally posted by frankb03 View Post
                                DeShawn Stevenson Thinks LeBron is Overrated. Stevenson told Washington Post reporter Michael Lee, “He’s overrated. And you can say I said that.”

                                I agree with his comment. LeBron is great. However, like ESPN and the media often do, LeBron's greatness is blown out of proportion. Let him win a few titles before we compare him to Michael Jordan.
                                at least not in our lifetime. Is he overrated? In what way? I don't think so, he is the best player in the NBA. Yes, better than Kobe. But then again, best player and best team are not always on the same page.

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