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  • #31
    I don't think the Suns gave a damn about the total, but instead were just trying to stick it to tthe Lakers and Kobe Bryant especially. This series was personal, and when they got their chance tonight, they dug the knife as deep as they possibly could. Busting the over was just a byproduct of that.

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    • #32
      exactly mb17
      thank you

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      • #33
        2 THINGS---

        1- the nba is always kinda fishy, and todays game definately falls in that category

        2- The public was all over the over, so don't know if the powers at be were thrilled it went over. fishy none the least to get THAT MANY POINTS IN THAT LITTLE TIME

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        • #34
          I would love to continue this, but I just saw an ad in my local paper that Walmart is having a sale on rose colored NBA sunglasses, and there are no rainchecks.
          Last edited by savage1; 05-07-2006, 01:30 AM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by molta02
            2 THINGS---

            1- the nba is always kinda fishy, and todays game definately falls in that category

            2- The public was all over the over, so don't know if the powers at be were thrilled it went over. fishy none the least to get THAT MANY POINTS IN THAT LITTLE TIME
            I saw a lot of services posting the UNDER for whatever that is worth.

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            • #36
              Wow, I'll take it, a win is a win
              Good Luck to everyone
              Adam

              Richie: [after Gus hits a homerun] Wow and he did it without steroids.
              Clark: What's steroids?
              Richie: Something that makes your pee-pee smaller.
              Clark: There must be steroids in macaroni!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by savage1
                To sum my feelings up. I still say that 35 points scored in the last 4:45 seconds when score is 103-73 is VERY unusual, and even more so, when it is considered that the added "effort" when none was needed, put the game over the total.
                ps I can't prove anything;I am merely trying to express a possibility based on my perception of the NBA.
                Unusual? Maybe. Conspiracy? Not likely.

                SAvage there was no conspiracy last night. I wathed the end of the game. The Suns cleared the bench. The Suns made their last 6 shots including two 3 pointers with only one layup. One three pointer was by Burke, their 3rd sting center from well beyond the 3 point line.

                To further disprove your Laker theory Kobe was benched the last 5 minutes of the game. One would think that if there was a fix on the OVER Kobe would have remained in the game.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by CheechB03
                  Unusual? Maybe. Conspiracy? Not likely.

                  SAvage there was no conspiracy last night. I wathed the end of the game. The Suns cleared the bench. The Suns made their last 6 shots including two 3 pointers with only one layup. One three pointer was by Burke, their 3rd sting center from well beyond the 3 point line.

                  To further disprove your Laker theory Kobe was benched the last 5 minutes of the game. One would think that if there was a fix on the OVER Kobe would have remained in the game.
                  Cheech-As you well know, you and I have always been on the opposite side of the fence on this one.
                  As I said in a previous post, I chose not to watch move of the last few minutes as i had a bet on the Over on which I had essentially given up.
                  Chung informed me it was the Suns who were as much as fault as the Lakers for trying to score near the end. The question is why.
                  If this was an isolated incident, I would say there would be less chance I was right;this kind of stuff has happened before though.
                  I still maintain that under most conditions nowhere near 35 points would be scored with 4:45 remaining and one team leading by 30 points;most times the game slows down, and both teams want to get the game over with, and the team leading doesn't want to embarrass the other team especially on national tv.
                  Chung made some interesting comments about the Sac/SA game the other night when total fell 1/2 point short of going over.
                  I guess you and I will have to agree to disagree;we have both watched many NBA games;I say at times for for financial reasons and when the opportunity presents itself there are attempts made by players, refs, etc. to control the ATS outcome or total.
                  You diasagree-fine. That is why forums like this exist.
                  Last edited by savage1; 05-07-2006, 11:59 AM.

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                  • #39
                    Savage you are 110 percent correct no doubt about it!

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                    • #40
                      Great post by cheech i completly agree.. And as far as Savage saying why would the Suns want to run up the score on the Fakers if you remember correctly all the bad blood these 2 teams have against each other and Kobe and Nash at each other all series. Bitch ass Kobe running that mouth each and every play.. Rapist ass Brown cheapshotting people.. Why wouldnt the Suns want to blow the Fakers out of the building in Game 7?? Makes alot of sense to me.. If I were the Suns coach I would have told them to run the shit out of the score

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by savage1
                        Chung informed me it was the Suns who were as much as fault as the Lakers for trying to score near the end. The question is why.
                        Why? It was the chance for the bench warmers to shine on national TV. They were making bombs from all over the court.

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                        • #42
                          The Suns wanted to win by 40. They had no intentions of holding back or slowing down. They continued to play their run & gun style until the end and the game went over!

                          You always have a chance at the over when it's a blowout because it turns into the All Star game and people just start running and throwing shit up!

                          NO FIX ... (IMO)!

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by CheechB03
                            Why? It was the chance for the bench warmers to shine on national TV. They were making bombs from all over the court.
                            Once again I agree 100%.. Just like the kid from that high school that was all over TV.. Came off the bench and lighting shit up.. I would have done the same thing if I were in either of those players shoes last night

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by TMAC951
                              Great post by cheech i completly agree.. And as far as Savage saying why would the Suns want to run up the score on the Fakers if you remember correctly all the bad blood these 2 teams have against each other and Kobe and Nash at each other all series. Bitch ass Kobe running that mouth each and every play.. Rapist ass Brown cheapshotting people.. Why wouldnt the Suns want to blow the Fakers out of the building in Game 7?? Makes alot of sense to me.. If I were the Suns coach I would have told them to run the shit out of the score
                              All I can say is that even if everything was on the up and up last night, just remember MONEY and POWER are the motivating factors in this country and this applies in ALL walks of American life including sports, sports gambling and the NBA.
                              In my mind anyone who thinks that at times there are not sometimes attempts in the NBA to control what happens is not seeing reality especially if he has watched many games (especially many times in the fourth quarter after the actual winner was decided) and was aware of the point spread and total.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by savage1
                                All I can say is that even if everything was on the up and up last night, just remember MONEY and POWER are the motivating factors in this country and this applies in ALL walks of American life including sports, sports gambling and the NBA.
                                In my mind anyone who thinks that at times there are not sometimes attempts in the NBA to control what happens is not seeing reality especially if he has watched many games (especially many times in the fourth quarter after the actual winner was decided) and was aware of the point spread and total.
                                I would buy into a College Game being fixed a million times more than a NBA game. When over 2,500 NBA games are played over a season, shit is going to happen to make you think weird and wild things but for me, a fix is not one of them. Shit will happen here and there in that many games!

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