Cleveland and Ohio treated us well!

[wayne1218]

I think if you go back and check you will see that Wakefield has given money to charity for sure, but has spent hundreds if not thousands of hours visiting sick children and trying to make their days happier;that is not tax deductible, and when you engage in such an activity not as a one shot deal but for many, many years, one has to conclude that it is not for the cameras only!

Well since you heard about it, it was obviously put out there for publicity reasons!

[wayne1218]

Great write up Rook. I only wish savage could/would understand it.

[TheRook]

Sometimes you just dont' know until you actually see them not on a TV screen. The perception is definetly not the reality with some of the athletes.

I'm glad you had a good time. And BTW....I heard from a LOT of my cubs buddies that the weekend you all were in Chicago we treated you all very well, and vise versa. A couple close friends said that it was like meeting old friends there. Everyone went out and went to all the bars and there were no fights no arguing, no huge trash talk...nothing like that.

Very classy on both parties!

[savage1]

Wayne-no need for sarcasm about understanding something.
I agree with Rook with most of what he says.
I would say however that unless you knew for a fact as to how many people Wakefield had signed for as opposed to not signing for over HIS ENTIRE CAREER, then no conclusions can be drawn for not signing for a day or two.
What is certain is that Wakefield had done this wonderful charity work OVER HIS ENTIRE career or at least while in Boston.
By my way of thinking, I can draw some positive conclusions based on the established history morew than say a couple of days of hearsay or perhaps one sided opinions as to what actually transpired between Wakefield and some fans.

[wayne1218]

Hearsay??? savage i f-ing viewed it myself 2 days. How many times do you need to hear that?

Hearsay is you making judgements based on T.V. or print.

[savage1]

Ok Wayne-I guess because you say so, Wakefield must be a no good self-serving jerk because he did years of charity work,spending time in hospitals, etc. (only for self-serving reasons by your definition), never bitches about what role he is asked to serve in as apitcher, starter or reliever, doesn't whine about his contract as did Pedro in the middle of the season, shows a lot of loyalty by staying here, is loved by management, his teammates, the community;no that doesn't mean ashit by your standard-signing autographs are what is all about(and as stated, you can't say definitively how other fans perceive him, how many he has signed for over the years, etc.).
It seems to me that what I stated means something. Can all the people cited above be wrong and you necessarily right?

[wayne1218]

Savage it WAS MY OPINION from post number 1.

You are the one that felt the need to jump in and defend a man you have probably never seen except for on the field or T.V.

Me and many others had a bad experience with him in Cleveland. It's not hearsay, it's a fact and i saw and lived it, unlike yourself!

[10DimeBry]

savage and wayne are at it again. Man this stuff is great.

[wayne1218]

savage and wayne are at it again. Man this stuff is great.

There is no "At it".

He was an ass in Cleveland. That's a fact and my own experience that savage is somehow trying to dispute. I'm a Sox fan and i went (drove) 12 hours to see them. Why would i make that shit up about my own beloved team when i could have left it out very easily. If it was one incident you would not have heard about it, but it wasn't!

[rented mule]

Can we get them in a steel cage or at least a Texas Death Match while the iron is still hot?

Wayne is going to need a better ring name, though.

[savage1]

Wayne-if you fbet horses and saw that a horse had a great track record, was in the money every time,and then in his last race, finished last, would you conclude that the horse was no good? I think not.
Obviously horses aren't people, but I maintain based on Wakefield's "track record" as alluded to in my posts, I would give him the benefit of the doubt rather than just draw some bad conclusions on a couple of days experience.
ps I am going to take in some nice warm sunshine;I like that as I am sure you do.
I won't be able to respond for a while.

[rented mule]

savage and wayne are at it again. Man this stuff is great.

I'm glad i'm not the only fan of tension. I usually like to email Wayne during these things to rile him up even more.

Wayne.....is it safe to say we shouldn't expect any grand slam plays on the sox with wakefield pitching?

P.S. He does sound like a tool and a half.

[wayne1218]

If savage went to Baltimore and said Damon was an ass i wouldn't respond with yes,l that's o.k., he's a great guy because he was in the hospital last week. It would be wow, that's surprising and disappointing. I certainly wouldn't dispute his claim or try to defend the player for his actions!

[bhs4life]

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[wayne1218]

Wayne-if you fbet horses and saw that a horse had a great track record, was in the money every time,and then in his last race, finished last, would you conclude that the horse was no good? I think not.
Obviously horses aren't people, but I maintain based on Wakefield's "track record" as alluded to in my posts, I would give him the benefit of the doubt rather than just draw some bad conclusions on a couple of days experience.
ps I am going to take in some nice warm sunshine;I like that as I am sure you do.
I won't be able to respond for a while.

Holy Shit, you are OUT THERE.

Horses? Yes, not people or even comparable. You have lost your mind. Compare with something that actually SPEAKS next time. OMG your amazing!