Clay Buchholz

[wayne1218]

If Jabba is so good, it should be a no brainer for you. Wins and ERA are indicative as to how good a pitcher is. Not K's.

No shit, who gives a fuck about a K

[ctt8410]

I can't believe you just said that a pitchers win/loss record means shit. But if that is what you believe, fine, wins and ERA! Name the bet.

It means something, but a pitcher has much more control over his ERA, Ks, BBs, Hs than wins. And yet every year they give out the Cy Young based on wins.

[The Lovedoc]

Yeah, Abreau and Giambi have done wonders for you! they are solid offensive players!

Like Cahman won't overspend to fill A-Rod's shoes. You are right, they won't replace him next year!

dude, nobody can replace him!! except for prince fielder... I dont think they have a shot of him next year...LOL

[The Lovedoc]

It means something, but a pitcher has much more control over his ERA, Ks, BBs, Hs than wins. And yet every year they give out the Cy Young based on wins.

NUFF SAID!!! LOOKS LIKE SOME PEOPLE DONT REALLY KNOW BASEBALL IN HERE AFTER ALL!!!!

[wayne1218]

Answer me this.... why are you scared to take the wager from me??? In all seriousness, it seems fair.. Hell, joba could have an arm injury next year and you would win K's..

It's only fair to you doc cuz you set the fucken guidelines that nobody else agreed too. When people mix a little of their thoughts in with yours, you want no part of it.

Fuck it, i'm done and this is exactly what i'm talking about. You open your fucken mouth and can't back peddle fast enough every time. Whatever .......

[Three Jack]

Nope...a pitchers w/l is overrated in my book....era and k's..i'm in...

Good ting GM's don't believe in this...guys like Glavine and Maddux would be worthless.

[ctt8410]

If Jabba is so good, it should be a no brainer for you. Wins and ERA are indicative as to how good a pitcher is. Not K's.

Huh? Wins and ERA are indicative of how lucky a pitcher is. Ks are one of the only factors that a pitcher can actually control himself.

[Three Jack]

It means something, but a pitcher has much more control over his ERA, Ks, BBs, Hs than wins. And yet every year they give out the Cy Young based on wins.

I agree with your statement but you could be a strikeout pitcher and not be a very good pitcher. Is James Shields the 9th best pitcher in baseball? Well he is 9th in K's....

[wayne1218]

It means something, but a pitcher has much more control over his ERA, Ks, BBs, Hs than wins. And yet every year they give out the Cy Young based on wins.

What is the VERY 1ST thing the Hall of Fame looks at when deciding on a Starting Pitcher for the Hall?


Let me help, WINS!

[The Lovedoc]

Huh? Wins and ERA are indicative of how lucky a pitcher is. Ks are one of the only factors that a pitcher can actually control himself.

DONT TELL THESE GUYS THAT!!!

[wayne1218]

It means something, but a pitcher has much more control over his ERA, Ks, BBs, Hs than wins. And yet every year they give out the Cy Young based on wins.

A guy can give up 5 runs in a inning while striking out the side. Does that make him a great pitcher?

[The Lovedoc]

What is the VERY 1ST thing the Hall of Fame looks at when deciding on a Starting Pitcher for the Hall?


Let me help, WINS!

guess what...a guy with 300 wins and a ERA with a 8.74 aint getting into the hall of fame

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[Three Jack]

Huh? Wins and ERA are indicative of how lucky a pitcher is. Ks are one of the only factors that a pitcher can actually control himself.

I agree that wins alone can be deceiving due to run support. So that is why I included ERA. Who care sif you strike guys out or not. Some of the greates pitchers of all time did not strike a lot of guys out...but they certainl had low ERA's and a lot of wins!

[ctt8410]

In my opinion it makes him a crappy pitcher who is also really unlucky.

[kbsooner21]

guess what...a guy with 300 wins and a ERA with a 8.74 aint getting into the hall of fame

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A guy with an ERA of 8.74 ain't going to get 300 wins. NEXT QUESTION