Clay Buchholz

[wayne1218]

guess what...a guy with 300 wins and a ERA with a 8.74 aint getting into the hall of fame

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Show me a guy with 300 wins and an Era that high? Wins matter because if you were good enough to get 300 of them, then you are a damn good pitcher, not lucky!

[Three Jack]

guess what...a guy with 300 wins and a ERA with a 8.74 aint getting into the hall of fame

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Why don't you use an example that has actually happened!

[ctt8410]

I agree with your statement but you could be a strikeout pitcher and not be a very good pitcher. Is James Shields the 9th best pitcher in baseball? Well he is 9th in K's....

You can't use Ks alone because that depends on how many innings a guy pitches. Shields is 18th in K/9 innings pitched. I would say 18th is a pretty good rank for Shields this year.

[wayne1218]

A guy with an ERA of 8.74 ain't going to get 300 wins. NEXT QUESTION

DUH!

[wayne1218]

It's only fair to you doc cuz you set the fucken guidelines that nobody else agreed too. When people mix a little of their thoughts in with yours, you want no part of it.

Fuck it, i'm done and this is exactly what i'm talking about. You open your fucken mouth and can't back peddle fast enough every time. Whatever .......

No comment huh doc? That's fucken shocking .......

[The Lovedoc]

who says there wont be a pitcher out there with an ERA of lets say 6 every year and wins 300 games... It could happen without a doubt...If everytime your team goes out and scores 8 runs while you pitch and you give up 6... Can be done!

[wayne1218]

who says there wont be a pitcher out there with an ERA of lets say 6 every year and wins 300 games... It could happen without a doubt...If everytime your team goes out and scores 8 runs while you pitch and you give up 6... Can be done!

Show me one. If you can't, get off fantasy island.

[Three Jack]

who says there wont be a pitcher out there with an ERA of lets say 6 every year and wins 300 games... It could happen without a doubt...If everytime your team goes out and scores 8 runs while you pitch and you give up 6... Can be done!

WOW...there is no sense debating this with you if you believe this. You really do not have a sense of reality.

[ctt8410]

Disclaimer: I hate the Yankees and don't have an opinion on the bet. I've just been tired of the "most wins = best pitcher" argument since Colon won the Cy Young a couple years ago.

[Three Jack]

who says there wont be a pitcher out there with an ERA of lets say 6 every year and wins 300 games... It could happen without a doubt...If everytime your team goes out and scores 8 runs while you pitch and you give up 6... Can be done!

Lovey, all joking asid, in the perfect scenario, how long would someone have to pitch in your opinion to win 300 games?

[The Lovedoc]

No comment huh doc? That's fucken shocking .......

Every bet comes with a guideline.... 1 person sets them and another agrees.... Simple as that

[wayne1218]

WOW...there is no sense debating this with you if you believe this. You really do not have a sense of reality.

No pitcher with an era that high would keep a job long enough to get 200 wins, nevermind 300 but some people are clueless.

[Three Jack]

Disclaimer: I hate the Yankees and don't have an opinion on the bet. I've just been tired of the "most wins = best pitcher" argument since Colon won the Cy Young a couple years ago.

And I agree with you. But would you really use K's and ERA to decide who is the best? The only other stat I would use other than wins and ERA is WHIP. That is it...the rest is window dressing.

[Three Jack]

No pitcher with an era that high would keep a job long enough to get 200 wins, nevermind 300 but some people are clueless.

Thats where I am going but I want him to anser my question....

[The Lovedoc]

Lovey, all joking asid, in the perfect scenario, how long would someone have to pitch in your opinion to win 300 games?

All joking aside...

15-20 years homie.... LOL you da man 3j