Ncaa Football Top 10 A Crock.....

[10DimeBry]

I think Temple has played much better then their record indicates....

temple would steam roll ND on a neutral field.

[TheRook]

temple would steam roll ND on a neutral field.

I assume you mean North Dakota

[Kaptain]

Dimer

Seriously. look at it. Let me explain.


#1 Ohio st - no problem
2 auburn - no problem
3 usc - no problem
4 wva- no problem
5 florida- no problem
6 Mich- no problem
7 texas- HUGE PROBLEM will explain below
8 L'ville - huge problem will explain below
9. georgia - no problem
10. LSU - huge problem



Texas- How the fuck could texas be #7??? they got the shit beat out of them @ home. if you want to make the arguement that the lost to #1 ohio st, fine. but i then respond by saying, nebraska who isnt in top 15 lost @ usc #2 by 18 and that was on the road, texas lost by 3td's @ home. And oklahoma IMO doesnt even have a loss. texas imo is the 3rd best team in the big 12 yet they are ranked #7 are you kidding me. L'ville is undefeated and ranked behind texas?? WTF?

Louisville- someone tell me what this team needs to do to be ranked in the top 5??? is blowing the fuckin doors of Miami not good enough?? The polls have WVA #4. i ask you this. Who has WVA beat?? maryland big freakin deal. maryland was good 5yrs ago. Being ranked behind a 1 loss overrated texas team is laughable. L'ville should be atleast 3 spots higher IMO

LSU- 1st off lsu has a loss. To me that automatically disqualifies you from being in the top 10. Va tech,tcu dont have losses are ranked less. lsu is a good team but you cannot have 4 SEC teams ranked in top 10 (auburn,georgia,florida,lsu) its just not possible. SEC is best conference in NCAA but it doesnt merrit 4 top 10 teams. LSU lost so BEAT IT, get the fuck outta the top 10.

here is how i think it should be:

1. ohio st
2. auburn
3. usc
4. florida
5. L'ville
6. mich
7. WVA
8. Georgia
9. Va Tech
10. TCU


IMO any team with a loss is out of top 10 period.
of course i'm more than willing to discuss this further, this is just my opinion. lets have yours.

Dimer, LSU lost a damn good game to a damn good team>>>>>had an instant replay go against em late, critical one, in a game that could have gone either way..........

If LSU plays Auburn this week, what do you think the professionals, oddsmakers, would make this game......Probably no difference than the first one, Auburn a slight favorite......

Which one of the 9 teams rated above them, you think would be a big favorite, much less a favorite, if they played tomorrow........Give me an unbiased opinion please, and let go of the theory that cause a team has 1 loss, they should not be in the top 10, if there's other teams who are undefeated.......It's who you play, and strength of schedule....

Let me give you an example, Okla St is 3-0 thus far.....who have they played.........no one........they are not ranked in the top 10, nor should they be.......If they met LSU tomorrow, the line would be overwhelmingly a big LSU favorite, and they have a loss.....

Oklahoma lost to a ranked team, by 2 pitiful, ever hurting, bad instant replay callls, or they would be 3-0........not 2-1.....Oregon is rated above Ok, should they be.......If they played tomorrow, what would the line be.......??????????

1 loss means doodly squat shit in NCAA football, unless it's to a unranked or Division II team...........

Rankings are based on votes according to what people (voters) think they have done, are capable of doing, strength of schedule, etc.......always has been, and always will be controversy to this method.......This is why the BCS is trying to make sure the top teams get their dues for Bowl games..........

I ask you this one more time.........If LSU plays TCU tomorrow, who's favored and by how many.......

It's all about WHO you play, how you played em, win or lose....

If I got a team, that lost to OSU by 1, USC by 2, Auburn by 4 (with a contoversial call), and Louisville by 7, and I finish the season at 7-4, and you have a team that has an 11-0 record, and beat the 11 worst teams in NCAA football----who do you think deserves to be ranked higher.......

It's too early to get into this debate right now, so why even force the issue......a lots of teams are rated on name alone, promise of being better, future looks good, and this method is here to stay, until a new one comes along........

PS----Houston plays Oklahoma St this week, both are 3-0, both have played no one, and are they supposed to be in the top 10, 20, or 30......One will lose, and then one will fade, and they still will have played no body.......LSU would be a 28 pt favorite against either one if they played tomorrow, and they have a loss, and couldn't score but 3 pts against a SUPER defense...........

All of this is how open minded you look at the situation, and if you go into it, looking for fault, you'll find it, the NEWS MEDIA does it everyday.......It's called Negativity Hunting.........

Your opinion is yours, mine is mine, and others have theirs........we're all different........just need to lose bias attitudes when throwing it out there, or HOME TOWN BOYS love for your team has to be left out also.....

You guys beat this to death---have fun----it's a long season----kapt

Say "good night Gracie".............kapt

[frankb03]

If LSU plays TCU tomorrow, who's favored and by how many.......

If I got a team, that lost to OSU by 1, USC by 2, Auburn by 4 (with a contoversial call), and Louisville by 7, and I finish the season at 7-4, and you have a team that has an 11-0 record, and beat the 11 worst teams in NCAA football----who do you think deserves to be ranked higher.......

Kaptain, great post with some GREAT POINTS.

I agree 100% the team with the 4 losses is probably a better team.

I asked the question before without any replies. Is the top-10 the 10 best teams or the teams with the best record.

IMO its the 10 best teams regardless of records.

[Kaptain]

dimer

blah blah blah and if my aunt had a package she'd be my uncle. l'ville,wva,mich would beat LSU on a netural field IMO

would these 3 teams also beat Auburn on a neutral field, and would they beat Auburn at Auburn............?????????

[10DimeBry]

kapt,

first off good post. let me say this. my opinion is just that my opinion. i'm not saying i'm right or your right. what i'm saying is. there is wayyyyyy to much respect for "who you play" in college foots. big time teams refuse to play many smaller teams cause its not a benefit to them. IMO every loss should count against you heavily. besides Wins and Loses what else do you have?? all you have is shades of grey

all you have is I beat so and so and so and so beat this team and, well we beat them and they beat them and i beat him and blah blah blah. People think smaller schools players arent as good. That may have been the case 10yrs ago but it aint that way now. If you dont think TCU could beat LSU straight up your NUTS!!!!!

my point is this and i'll quote Bill Parcels "you are what your record says you are"

IMO if you have a loss and their are teams that are undefeated and won their games by convincing margin. they should be ranked higher. To me rankings arent suppose to be on BS like well we lost a really good team. So what you still LOST!!!!!

[10DimeBry]

would these 3 teams also beat Auburn on a neutral field, and would they beat Auburn at Auburn............?????????

yes they might. i dont know. what i'm saying is LSU lost. you cant tell me 4 of the top 10 teams are SEC schools, i mean tennessee only has 1 loss to fla by 3pts, why not rank them in the top 10 as well???

[10DimeBry]

I asked the question before without any replies. Is the top-10 the 10 best teams or the teams with the best record.

IMO its the 10 best teams regardless of records.

this is easy.

its the top 10 best teams based on RECORD 1st then who you've played.

you cant have teams with loses ahead of legit teams that are undefeated.

[Kaptain]

frankB03

Kaptain, great post with some GREAT POINTS.

I agree 100% the team with the 4 losses is probably a better team. definitely

I asked the question before without any replies. Is the top-10 the 10 best teams or the teams with the best record. top 10---regardless of record

IMO its the 10 best teams regardless of records. agreed---it's all about who you played, thats why there is so much emphasis on Strenght of Schedule

They'll beat this dead horse for a while, and this thread will come back (to quote JC), to haunt or get stuck up someones ass....Could be his own, time will tell..........

Miamis losses (2 of em) will not help Louisville at years end, and thats based on SOS.........

Louiusville has probably the most potent, well balanced offense in NCAA FB, IMO, and their defense is really OK....not great, but OK---decent........

Louis would score against Aub or LSU, but how many ?????????
Louis would give up points to Aub, LSU, but how many???????????

Aub and LSU both have decent offenses, and probably 2 of the top 5 defenses in the country that just went against each other........gonna be interesting at years end......kapt

[frankb03]

IMO every loss should count against you heavily. besides Wins and Loses what else do you have?? all you have is shades of grey

Once again I disagree with you. 1000% this time. That's the problem with college football. Many teams don't want to schedule tough out of conference games because of your and the pollsters mentality. They put too much emphasis on a loss. And not enough on the team they lost to.

Last season, when Ohio St lost a tough game at home to the eventual champs you are saying after that game they should not be considered a top-10 team. Incidentally, Ohio St finished #4 in the BCS final poll with 2 losses.

[frankb03]

this is easy.

its the top 10 best teams based on RECORD 1st then who you've played.

you cant have teams with loses ahead of legit teams that are undefeated.

Based on that logic

Wake Forrest, Rutgers, S Florida, Purdue, Houston, Navy should all be ranked ahead of Notre Dame, Texas, Oklahoma, LSU, Cal, and others.

[Kaptain]

this is easy.

its the top 10 best teams based on RECORD 1st, Record First----then who you played"....so I guess there is some emphasis on Strength of schedule....according to your own words..... then who you've played.

you cant have teams with loses ahead of legit teams that are undefeated.its based on your own previous statement---it's who you played.........therefore you can....as stated by you yourself, or if the statement "who they played" has no merit, than remove it....

You can have, and always will have teams with losses rated ahead of teams undefeated, if the losses came from better rated teams, and you didn't have a PATSY schedule.......

Thats never gonna change, and rightfully so.......

A playoff is the only solution to this, you know it, I know it, and it's a matter of time......kapt

[10DimeBry]

Based on that logic

Wake Forrest, Rutgers, S Florida, Purdue, Houston, Navy should all be ranked ahead of Notre Dame, Texas, Oklahoma, LSU, Cal, and others.

1st off Rutgers is no joke this year. IMO they hang with anyone you mentioned. Rutgers would beat down Cal. Pac-10 sucks. Big east is clearly better than the pac-10 this year. the others arent that good. Navy might beat ND this year......stay tuned!!!!

[Three Jack]

this is easy.

its the top 10 best teams based on RECORD 1st then who you've played.

you cant have teams with loses ahead of legit teams that are undefeated.

Bry, this is where I think you are wrong...so if Navy is one of 10 undefeated teams in two weeks they should be ranked #10 before an LSU or a Texas or a Notre Dame?

[Three Jack]

Bry, so I guess you are advocating for all schools to load up with cream puffs as non-conference games because a win at home against Buffalo is more important than true measuring stick games?