Limbaugh makes good on promise: sells NYC digs for $11.5 million

[Jamaicanman]

-try doing what Limbaugh does in some of those other countries and you will be lucky to just lose your job!
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A. Most places don't have the fundamental right of freedom of speech.

B. Why would you try and bolster your opinion with "other countries"? I assume then you would apply "other countries" views on illegal immigration and crime? Not to turn this into an illegal immigration post but how many "other" countries do you have to press 1 for on the telephone to communicate in your own countrey's language?

Speculating what MIGHT happen in other country's is weak imo.

[savage1]

A. Most places don't have the fundamental right of freedom of speech.

B. Why would you try and bolster your opinion with "other countries"? I assume then you would apply "other countries" views on illegal immigration and crime? Not to turn this into an illegal immigration post but how many "other" countries do you have to press 1 for on the telephone to communicate in your own countrey's language?

Speculating what MIGHT happen in other country's is weak imo.

I am simply stating that Limbaugh has abused his "freedom of speech" privilege and is/has been very offensive to the office of the Presidency itself by what he has said and just as importantly the manner in whcih he says it when he has talked about Clinton and Obama.

[savage1]

Since you are a fan of his show, I assume you have been watching for many years. Do you think Maher is/was demeaning/belittling to President Bush? And for brevity's sake, it is a Yes or No answer.

Yes but for the most part in a much more humorous and appropriate manner than Limbaugh.

[Jamaicanman]

Yes but for the most part in a much more humorous and appropriate manner than Limbaugh.

What do you find as "appropriate" when, by your own admission it is demeaning and belittling speech?

So in Savage World, it is ok to demean and belittle the President as long as it is "more humorous" then Rush? Wow.

[vitterd]

I was turned off on bill mahr when he said the terrorists on 9/11 were courageous because they were willing to die for their beliefs. Just an idiotic statement. I have heard he is attacking obama now though

[Jamaicanman]

I was turned off on bill mahr when he said the terrorists on 9/11 were courageous because they were willing to die for their beliefs. Just an idiotic statement. I have heard he is attacking obama now though

B/c vacation guy isn't liberal enough for him. That would be the only reason for "attack".

[savage1]

I was turned off on bill mahr when he said the terrorists on 9/11 were courageous because they were willing to die for their beliefs. Just an idiotic statement. I have heard he is attacking obama now though

In all due respect, I think it all depends on how one defines courageous.
If for example a person commits suicide, in one sense it is cowardly because that person is is ending his own life because for whatever reason he/she no longer wants to live and/or can't deal with the problems he/she has.
On the other hand, it does take a bit of courage to ends one's own life by whatever means he or she ends it.
Now granted the terrorist attack is a different thing altogether, but still by my way of thinking, it still took a bit of courage to do what they did in the strict definition of the word "courage.'
What they did was a terrible/horrific thing but I can understand Maher's point.

[savage1]

What do you find as "appropriate" when, by your own admission it is demeaning and belittling speech?

So in Savage World, it is ok to demean and belittle the President as long as it is "more humorous" then Rush? Wow.

You are forgetting the intangibles-the manner in which the statements are expressed.
For example I will never forget the manner in which Limbaugh mocked Reverend Jackson when invoking his name-there is a racial slur to it.
The nasty manner in which he mocked Clinton's voice while he was still President was in poor taste.
By my way of thinking what Maher and others did was more of an expose of Bush and Cheney, whom I deam as accomplices to murder and who should be tried for war crimes-yeah those are my true feelings about Bush and especially Cheney-you can call it demeaning and belittling-I call it the truth!

[vitterd]

Their belief is that there is a bunch of virgins waiting for them on the other side. The truly believe in death they will be martyrs and go to a place better then here. That is not courage. Its stupidity

[savage1]

Their belief is that there is a bunch of virgins waiting for them on the other side. The truly believe in death they will be martyrs and go to a place better then here. That is not courage. Its stupidity

I know what they believe, but I still think it takes an act of courage to end one's life knowing the possible pain and anguish they might endure first.
Also, and this is obviously not to defend their actions, but how can you say that within their own belief system that what they did is stupidity?
How is their religious belief system any more stupid than say what any other religion says what happens after you die and what you have to do on earth to got to "Heaven?"

[husker]

In all due respect, I think it all depends on how one defines courageous.
If for example a person commits suicide, in one sense it is cowardly because that person is is ending his own life because for whatever reason he/she no longer wants to live and/or can't deal with the problems he/she has.
On the other hand, it does take a bit of courage to ends one's own life by whatever means he or she ends it.
Now granted the terrorist attack is a different thing altogether, but still by my way of thinking, it still took a bit of courage to do what they did in the strict definition of the word "courage.'
What they did was a terrible/horrific thing but I can understand Maher's point.

all i have to say is WOW!!!!!!!!

[husker]

Their belief is that there is a bunch of virgins waiting for them on the other side. The truly believe in death they will be martyrs and go to a place better then here. That is not courage. Its stupidity

what's going on here we agree again. i wouldn't call it stupidity though. a lot of them are young easily influenced people that are taken advantage of by cowards that don't want to give THEIR lives up.

[Jamaicanman]

You are forgetting the intangibles-the manner in which the statements are expressed.
For example I will never forget the manner in which Limbaugh mocked Reverend Jackson when invoking his name-there is a racial slur to it.
The nasty manner in which he mocked Clinton's voice while he was still President was in poor taste.
By my way of thinking what Maher and others did was more of an expose of Bush and Cheney, whom I deam as accomplices to murder and who should be tried for war crimes-yeah those are my true feelings about Bush and especially Cheney-you can call it demeaning and belittling-I call it the truth!

You seemed to have missed the point of each of my posts. I am not defending Rush or his comments. I am just suprised you are on board with such hypocrisy.

Belittling/demeaning comments are bad if hurled at Clinton/Obama, but if the same comments come from an idol of yours in a humerous way, then everything is fine. Just a humorous expose!!!

Please don't come back with war crimes, how bad of a presidency, blah blah. Your opinion of a Presidency is not the topic, but the inconsistent application to your standards is the topic.

[savage1]

You seemed to have missed the point of each of my posts. I am not defending Rush or his comments. I am just suprised you are on board with such hypocrisy.

Belittling/demeaning comments are bad if hurled at Clinton/Obama, but if the same comments come from an idol of yours in a humerous way, then everything is fine. Just a humorous expose!!!

Please don't come back with war crimes, how bad of a presidency, blah blah. Your opinion of a Presidency is not the topic, but the inconsistent application to your standards is the topic.

It is not hypocrisy at all.
For you or anyone to see what I am driving at, you/they would have to listen to objectively the "belittling" remarks made by Limbaugh, how he says them and the context in which they are delivered and then compare them with "belittling" remarks made by Maher, how he says them and a similar context.
If nothing else, just remember one thing-Rush said openly when Obama became President that he wanted him to fail-that in itself tells you a lot about the man(Limbaugh) and his mindset and his unwillingness to say anything kind about anyone with whom he disagrees(I can understand why he has been married four times).
Conversely, he never said anything bad about Bush or his Administration-at least Bill Maher has criticized Obama on occasion.
In short I view Limbaugh's type of belittling based on preconceived and unwavering notions and racism, whereas with Maher to a certain degree there is at least some flexibility and more evenness in his remarks.

[Jamaicanman]

If nothing else, just remember one thing-Rush said openly when Obama became President that he wanted him to fail-that in itself tells you a lot about the man(Limbaugh) and his mindset and his unwillingness to say anything kind about anyone with whom he disagrees



Conversely, he never said anything bad about Bush or his Administration-at least Bill Maher has criticized Obama on occasion.
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Here is the ONE time I will defend a comment by Rush. You are being dishonest with the above post. And I am calling out bullshit. He was asked if he agreed with the Presidents views on the direction of the country, as well as if he agreed with the policies that the President would want to enact to execute his vision. And Rush's answer was t hat he didn't agree with the President and hope he failed b/c he vehemently disagreed with where he believed his policies would take our country. Rush would be a hypocrite if he said he hopes the President succeeds if he diagreed with the Presidents vision. In his opinion, if the President succeeded in executing his vision, then the US would be further up a creek. (And I am not defending his opinion)

And I would love to know how you can make the statement Rush NEVER said anything bad about Bush. You have listened for the last 9 1/2 years daily?