What am I missing on Josh Hamilton?

[DDP713]

Seriously, will you read the thread before responding to the wrong person for a 2nd time. Those posts are meant for me, not Kaptain and you are looking foolish.

Good I hope im looking foolish that should fit right into today's theme. And I dont believe I am responding to the wrong person, i've read kapt ask that question to chado a number of times....my question was why??? who cares? would it reallly make a difference if chado's next post says "man I fuckin miss getting high on hard drugs pounding budweisers all night...dude I know its bad for my body and my mental well being, but I dont give a fuck at least I was happy back then and I wasnt doing harm to anyone else"

[GOLDENGREEK]

exactly, alcohol IS just as dangerous the facts continue to show that. just like chicago banning cigarette smoking in public, it sucks for the smokers but why should other people suffer while the addicted continue enjoying their drug.

split the restraunt / establishment in half or just have the bar area as smoking like it used to be

This is another topic anyway
My point is if they act like smoking is that bad ( again -- we know it is ) why do they continue to allow ciggarettes to be sold ?

[wayne1218]

We're all beginning to sound a bit redundant with our points. I'm sure this thread was started because harold is getting a bit sick of josh hamilton 24/7 over this all-star break...I understand that but I just think its extremley unfair to say he's only a role model to drug addicts...thats a prettty closed minded thing to say, a "hero" is open to interpretation as we all have different opinions on that....i'm humbled by someone new everyday, that doesn't mean they're now my role model...individuals like Josh Hamilton should INSPIRE! point blank period....that's all I was trying to get across to harold_bush when he asked "what am I missing on josh hamilton"

Yes, but how should he inspire to an average Joe who was never addicted? It makes no sense really and i don't think Harold is wrong for feeling that way just like you are not wrong for your thoughts.

[DDP713]

split the restraunt / establishment in half or just have the bar area as smoking like it used to be

This is another topic anyway
My point is if the act like smoking is that bad ( again -- we know it is ) why do they continue to allow ciggarettes to be sold ?

The problem is that bartendars who dont even smoke encountered developing lung problems....

"My point is if the act like smoking is that bad ( again -- we know it is ) why do they continue to allow ciggarettes to be sold "

you answered that question earlier....
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[GOLDENGREEK]

Yes, but how should he inspire to an average Joe who was never addicted? It makes no sense really and i don't think Harold is wrong for feeling that way just like you are not wrong for your thoughts.

Yup -- someone who comes from say... Kenya , or Lithuania , etc. that comes to the states with zero in his pockets and works his ass off for minimum wage , finds a way to educate himself in school, and becomes a succesful and respectful person should be showered with more addulation that Josh Hamilton IMHO

Shit -- even people born here that grew up in poverty or in the gehttos with parents that werent around or addicts that had to dodge bullets to get to school, resist the tempation of joining gangs and doing drugs and become succesful respectable humans should recieve more praise that a junkie "turning his life around"


The problem is I guess with television and newspapers that would rather glorify the Hamiltons rather that report on these faceless people

[GOLDENGREEK]

The problem is that bartendars who dont even smoke encountered developing lung problems....

"My point is if the act like smoking is that bad ( again -- we know it is ) why do they continue to allow ciggarettes to be sold "

you answered that question earlier....
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Most if not all bartenders are smokers

Also as a business owner you can give the option to people if they want to work in the bar where there are smokers -- Im sure there will be no problems filling the positions

Many studies have proven that smokers spend more money and leave bigger tips that non - smokers

[wayne1218]

I agree Dino. Hey, if i'm Chad, sure, maybe i can look up to Josh. I'm not and to me it was a great story of self retrieval and that's about it. Certainly not a hero or inspiration to me for anything.

[DDP713]

Yes, but how should he inspire to an average Joe who was never addicted? It makes no sense really and i don't think Harold is wrong for feeling that way just like you are not wrong for your thoughts.

That's a good question and I can't speak for the average Joe, Harold or Wayne. But as for me the average DDP, I feel inspired because of his willingness to change, desire to continue working towards an ultimate goal, and the amount of hard work and mental discipline that goes into achieving that goal ..... AFTER a bad addiction on crack-cocaine AFTER people gave up on you, he didn't give up on himself......I dont care who you are or what goals you have left in life, knowing and appreciating the josh hamilton story inspires to be a stronger individual....this is all sounding kinda cheesy but the message is if he can go through all that and end up where he wanted to be the entire time hitting 500ft. home runs at yankee stadium...then what's stopping me or you from doing what we inspire to do.....AND without the immeasurable expectations he faced, the incredible letdown factor he faced , oh and that crack addiction... I dont care if Josh Hamilton never hits another home run again, thats a STRONG dude....

[BigMike]

I have a question why does CHAD call himself CHADO? He refers to himself in the third person as Chado, isn't his name Chad? I'm asking everyone else because he said he is done posting in this thread

[kim61299]

He might be a strong dude - and I am happy for him that he overcame his personal demons. But he is not a hero. I don't want him forced on me as a hero. And I DEFINITELY don't want my kids looking at the guy as a hero. I can't even turn on sports center for the last 3 days without hearing about what an inspiration he is. He is not someone that I want my kids exposed to let alone idolizing! Nice story and congrats to him for turning his life around. But that should be the end of it.

Like I have said before I can see why he tried it, I can understand the thoughts of a #1 draft pick thinking they are invincible, and I applaud the guy for being strong enough to fix his problem for the time being. But he is no hero. He is not even a guy I want my 5 year old son to look up to.

[Chado1]

Wayne - it is hard to make a point to you when you have such strong dislike for one of the main people arguing against you in this thread.

It would be nice if you tried to look at it from Chad's point of view.

Funny thing is - I agree with you that crack and alcohol is different. But if you can't see the similarities about trying something for the first time (or people thinking "nothing bad will happen to me") - whether it is crack or drunk driving, then you are just a being stubborn and ignorant. Which is a fine - but not a very enlightened way to go through life.

WOW someone actually understands!!!

The bias of your dislike towards me seeps in your responses of always trying to one up me or anyone else you have ever had a debate on this forum for Wayne...you HAVE to be right when you get going....never will admit that you could possibly be wrong or agree to disagree its the truth and everyone knows it....

[Chado1]

My feelings towards chad have zero to do with my argument.

BWWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wayne thats fucking bullshit and everyone can see it....

[Chado1]

I have a question why does CHAD call himself CHADO? He refers to himself in the third person as Chado, isn't his name Chad? I'm asking everyone else because he said he is done posting in this thread

Chado is my nickname like yours is slopedick..

[Spark]

I've been telling Spark this for 6 months now ..........

and you know i usually always stay out of these debates but I would really like Chad to recant on this statement



.............Smoking crack was the best thing I ever did with my life because it made me into the person I am today. It gave me a better outlook on life.........



I sure wish he would read this again ...

[Lsufan]

and you know i usually always stay out of these debates but I would really like Chad to recant on this statement



.............Smoking crack was the best thing I ever did with my life because it made me into the person I am today. It gave me a better outlook on life.........



I sure wish he would read this again ...

I totally agree with that Spark ....

It's like saying if Chad had to start his life all over again, he would grab a crack pipe in a second, cause it will be good for his life.