That was my point Kapt. YOU or anyone else on here shouldn't let the elephant (Chuck) into your house. It shouldn't be up to someone else to keep him out of YOUR house. If he is ignored then he (the elephant) isn't in your house....
That was my point Kapt. YOU or anyone else on here shouldn't let the elephant (Chuck) into your house. It shouldn't be up to someone else to keep him out of YOUR house. If he is ignored then he (the elephant) isn't in your house....
KAZ
Unfortunately, some one else holds the Key to my house, and they ascertain who can enter and who can't.....Once he's in, it is indeed hard to ignore the shitting elephant......
If you can ignore a shitting elephant in your living room, you have much more discipline than most, however; you can't say you do have, cause you also bothered to write up a lengthy post re the shitting elephant........
I guarantee you this, Ignoring the shitting elephant, especially if the elephant is determined to make his presence known, is not gonna deter him, or work on him.....kapt
The only thing i have to say about this thread in particular is this. NOBODY should have to have their "Picks" thread moved to the rant forum like i did with this.
If this was my picks thread or Spark or Kaptain or anyone else, would we let the beating continue on that member and move the thread or would we put an end to it quickly without moving anything?
Look in the rant forum and tell me how many others had to have their thread moved there. Now does chuck bring most of this on himself? Usually (imo) but a couple of guys in particular are just addicted to chuck wherever he goes.
Unfortunately, some one else holds the Key to my house, and they ascertain who can enter and who can't.....
Sorry Kapt. but I don't agree with this. No one holds the key to my house but me. Yes I came and offered some advice as to why this happens and how to make it stop. I seriously laugh at what Chuck writes and the many responses he gets. He no doubt has issues and has trouble with tact. It has no bearing on me personally nor will it. If he attacks me, I will respond and defend myself. But him or I haven't gone there. If I chose to engage him, it is up to me to as to how far I will take it. It is up to the mods to determine how far either of us went. We all determine our own destiny, even when it comes to Chuck....
If he is ignored, he will be gone. When he became mister nice guy for a bit and was straight as an arrow, he hardly posted and no one commented and he had no views. Only since he's become more vocal has this all got amped up....
Sorry Kapt. but I don't agree with this. No one holds the key to my house but me. Yes I came and offered some advice as to why this happens and how to make it stop. I seriously laugh at what Chuck writes and the many responses he gets. He no doubt has issues and has trouble with tact. It has no bearing on me personally nor will it. If he attacks me, I will respond and defend myself. But him or I haven't gone there. If I chose to engage him, it is up to me to as to how far I will take it. It is up to the mods to determine how far either of us went. We all determine our own destiny, even when it comes to Chuck....
If he is ignored, he will be gone. When he became mister nice guy for a bit and was straight as an arrow, he hardly posted and no one commented and he had no views. Only since he's become more vocal has this all got amped up....
KAZ
SomeOne does hold the key to your house (The Forum)....you can't decide who comes and goes....The Mods do....so how can you hold the key....
and you even go so far to say, it's up to the mods as to how far it goes, in our (your) house, the forum.....
I don't underdstand what you're disagreeing with, when in actuality we're agreein.....or do I have to spell out that the emphasis of
"My (our) house, represents the Forum.........geez----what paret of this don't you understand.....
you say you have no problems with CL, and what he writes, cause he evidently hasn't attacked you, and if/when he does. you'll strike back........
You also said he's different in person....If you know that for a fact, then you've obviously met up with and spent some time with him........That, then can make you a bias opinioned person.....I don't give 2 rat asses as to how he is in person, or how he treats others in person, my statements relate to him on this Forum.....I don't care to meet him....
Now just what in the hell are we disagreeing about as far as you're concerned.......
I still say, it's definitely hard to ignore something that jumps out at you every where you go on this Forum, and you trying to preach Ignore, as you can do, is obviously a joke, cause you apparently read (stated by you) his BS.....you have no problem with it, then that's you........enjoy your laughter at CL's writings, I think it's appaling....
That's where we disagree...........and you're still saying if he's ignored, he'll be gone, well kaz, I think you need to travel a bit more, live a lil longer, see more people around the world, get a feel for what an egotistical/dual personality is, before you say, Ignore, and he'll go away....
I have a Son who has a Masters and a PHD in Counciling, specializes in Child work, and Criminally minded people, Conducts clinics for others, and he's read CL's BS, and he says, Ignoring him will NOT, I repeat NOT make him go away.....Just the Opposite....An egotistical person thrives on attention, and when ignored, they try harder, and even start to do crazy things to get that attention back.....they rarely, if ever, change without counseling....even then it's long time.....
So until you cease the photo business, and get the degrees asscoiated with personality disorders, I'll go with my Sons opinion.....
Notice, I backed up my opinion, with a pretty good analysis from a Professional......Didnt just throw mine out there....
That's like someone trying to tell you what film speed and aperture to use....That's your profession, I'm sure my Son would listen, as he was raised to listen when people that specialize in something, speak about their speciality........
Now in your mighty wisdom, do you still think, the Ignore strategy, is the way to go......He has been ignored before for periods of time, he goes smooth for 3-4 weeks, then the Jekyl/Hyde sets in, and you have the same BS Elephant in your house........
You have a nice day Kaz----enjoy his posts, laugh at em, continue to be better than most, and completely Ignore CL, while you're spending time reading his posts, and this one also for that matter....
If he doesn't bother you, then why the unsolicited advice, from a non professional regarding personalities......You know him, you like him, that's your business....
I don't, and I don't like what he stands for...........Self rewarding EGO tactics........kaptain
I never said I met him, like him or condone what he writes. He has no effect on me because I have a life outside of BC. My life doesn't revolve around what Chuck writes nor does it revolve around what is written on an internet chat site. If he effects your life, that's your problem.
As much as Chuck offers up his bullshit, so do others who come in here and hound him like a dog. There are plenty of those that can be counted. Like Spark said, where does he set the line for the ban button in this thread? Like Wayne said, too many have to have a say in here so it had to be moved.
That's great your son has a PHD. You should be proud. If a tree falls in the woods, does it make a noise? If no one responds to Chuck, does any part of this thread happen?
I do agree with your son, Chuck will always need a way to feed his ego. If it's not here, it will be somewhere else. I'm just not willing to supply him the food. Not at the moment anyways. You have a good day as well Kapt. Just for the record, I am older and I have seen more than most in my life....
I never said I met him, like him or condone what he writes. He has no effect on me because I have a life outside of BC. My life doesn't revolve around what Chuck writes nor does it revolve around what is written on an internet chat site. If he effects your life, that's your problem.
As much as Chuck offers up his bullshit, so do others who come in here and hound him like a dog. There are plenty of those that can be counted. Like Spark said, where does he set the line for the ban button in this thread? Like Wayne said, too many have to have a say in here so it had to be moved.
That's great your son has a PHD. You should be proud. If a tree falls in the woods, does it make a noise? If no one responds to Chuck, does any part of this thread happen?
I do agree with your son, Chuck will always need a way to feed his ego. If it's not here, it will be somewhere else. I'm just not willing to supply him the food. Not at the moment anyways. You have a good day as well Kapt. Just for the record, I am older and I have seen more than most in my life....
KAZ
Thanks for your response, it's almost ver batum what I thought it would be...........
And yes.....If a tree falls in the woods, it does make a noise, but no one is there to hear or verify it........But it doesn't change the event or prevent recurrence of same....It's gonna repeat itself over and over.....as does History....
And thanks for agreeing with, and the compliment re my Son, and yes I'm proud of he and his 5 brothers, who are all highly educated in their respective fields.....We utilize that knowledge amongst ourselves to share and resolve potential problems.........
As far as CL feeding his EGO here or there, it's more likely for this type person to strike where they had previous setbacks, to prove a point to themselves....I wish it were somewhere else.....
you say you are older, and have seen more than most, you say it, so I can believe it, you are about 41 years old, thats the age of my oldest son.....
I'm 65, been in 46 states and 19 foreign countries.....Was the head man on many a Nuclear project, generally 4-6 thousand people per site, and in 2 cases, 10,000 people worked there.....Management constantly goes through Physical and Mental hygiene, Dr's and shrinks, on a monthly basis, and I've had my share.....They teach you how to read people, things to look for, corrective remedies for findings, etc....
I'm not a know it all----I learn every day---but this kind of person, I've worked with, seen, watched operate, settled disputes between they and others, watched their pattern of life, and they all seem to have that Jekyl/Hyde syndrome.......
They'll come back, convince you the others were wrong, convince you they were picked on, sit back while you rectify their problems, and then come back and create more.....
I agree with others (incuding myself) may come in here and hound him, well I say it's self inflicted.......Like the boy that cried "wolf" for no reason........You reap what you sow, and he's planted ton of acres of BS here.......
Thanks for your response, let's consider this converstion between you and I closed, with no hard feelings, as both parties were expressing their opinions.......
One of my drawbacks, is that I totaly detest Arrogance, Egotism, and Prevaricators........he fits all three, and I guess I come unglued when I see it happening........
I'll try and ignore the Jekyl/Hyde personality.........It just pisses me off when they think they are fooling people, and doubly so when they do.....kaptain
Originally Posted by KazDog
I never said I met him, like him or condone what he writes. He has no effect on me because I have a life outside of BC. My life doesn't revolve around what Chuck writes nor does it revolve around what is written on an internet chat site. If he effects your life, that's your problem.
PS----Chuck doesn't affect my life, it's people that take up for him, and fall for his BS that does.........
And BC is not my life....I have such a busy life outside of BC, it would rattle your brain to try and keep the pace with me.........
And I never said he affected my life, my life goes on, and will continue to do so for a while, till I die.....But being a Hi ranking Manager, and a Teacher all my life, I still feel compeled to try and alert others to falling into well hidden traps, muck like a Parent trying to teach a kid to not run in the streets.........
And I will continue to do so, as I'm well pleased with who and what I am today......kaptain
This has been said many, many times before, by LOTS OF PEOPLE ..... "WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE NEWBIES."
People came in this thread and responded to expose Chuck. If everyone ignores him, "Newbies" may fall for his BS and load up on this "big" GOY. God forbid we don't protect the "newbies."
"Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant'
is like calling a drug dealer an 'unlicensed pharmacist'"
Originally Posted by KazDog
I never said I met him, like him or condone what he writes. He has no effect on me because I have a life outside of BC. My life doesn't revolve around what Chuck writes nor does it revolve around what is written on an internet chat site. If he effects your life, that's your problem.
PS----Chuck doesn't affect my life, it's people that take up for him, and fall for his BS that does.........
And BC is not my life....I have such a busy life outside of BC, it would rattle your brain to try and keep the pace with me.........
And I never said he affected my life, my life goes on, and will continue to do so for a while, till I die.....But being a Hi ranking Manager, and a Teacher all my life, I still feel compeled to try and alert others to falling into well hidden traps, muck like a Parent trying to teach a kid to not run in the streets.........
And I will continue to do so, as I'm well pleased with who and what I am today......kaptain
Karl, If I didn't affect your life, you wouldn't be wasting your time posted in this thread.
Think about that.
This has been said many, many times before, by LOTS OF PEOPLE ..... "WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE NEWBIES."
People came in this thread and responded to expose Chuck. If everyone ignores him, "Newbies" may fall for his BS and load up on this "big" GOY. God forbid we don't protect the "newbies."
go ahead and PASS GO, collect your 2 free "Banner Clicks", and you owe me $33.00 for landing on "Newbie Lane", which is my Property....
Karl, If I didn't affect your life, you wouldn't be wasting your time posted in this thread.
Think about that.
Don't even think about patting yourself on the back with the Idea that you affect my life........You'll never get to that plateau...........
I'm not wasting my time, I'm doing what I've always done in my life.........Protect innocent people, protect ignorant people, protect naive people, from Operators such as your self.......
You so desperately want to affect peoples lifes, in one way or the other, that you resort to any method to do so.....
Best to ya Chuck, and by the way, gl on reaching my plateau which is in Reality land (Already happened), not a dream or made up story........kapt
Wiz??? why not talk about MM also while we are at it ..
Jimmy, I know you are going to get the last word and I really do not care about that .. but just answer my question that I asked ..
at what point do you ban Chuck in this thread?? before or after MCP rips on him??? after what post???
Then i am done with this issue for now ..Thanks
Thanks for understanding my email to you Buddy. As long as there are people who hate other people here, this crap will continue even after I'm gone. Guys like Ronnie and some others just come here to argue with anyone than can. I bet they don't get a say at home with their wifes.
Just click on some of the user-names and see their posts. It's pretty obvious who the people are on this forum by their comments in their posts.
I promised you when I first come back that I would not start any trouble, but I still have to either defend myself in my own thread or just ignore the people who hate me. You did tell me in your last email that you would keep the haters out, but I also understand that even after you warn them, they will continue to see how far they can go, before you get pissed off and warn them again.
Don't even think about patting yourself on the back with the Idea that you affect my life........You'll never get to that plateau...........
I'm not wasting my time, I'm doing what I've always done in my life.........Protect innocent people, protect ignorant people, protect naive people, from Operators such as your self.......
You so desperately want to affect peoples lifes, in one way or the other, that you resort to any method to do so.....
Best to ya Chuck, and by the way, gl on reaching my plateau which is in Reality land (Already happened), not a dream or made up story........kapt
Many people here feel that your just as big an asshole as I am. You can try to protect people here, but we all know, that the newbies will still get suckered in by some service scam artist or go to another site and lose all their money from the hundreds of GOY's out there.
I wonder how many newbies who have followed you when you through out those 5 * that lost. Now different because they lost money.
I'm heading to the beach will the family, so you can continue to protect people here while I'm gone.
Thanks for understanding my email to you Buddy. As long as there are people who hate other people here, this crap will continue even after I'm gone. Guys like Ronnie and some others just come here to argue with anyone than can. I bet they don't get a say at home with their wifes. according to you, my wife is Dead......so I know you can't mean me
Just click on some of the user-names and see their posts. It's pretty obvious who the people are on this forum by their comments in their posts. oh my gosh, you do mean me.....heavens
I promised you when I first come back that I would not start any trouble you can't expect to walk into a bank with 36 hand grenades strapped to your chest, without causing some kind of trouble do you...., but I still have to either defend myself in my own thread or just ignore the people who hate me.I don't hate you.....I don't hate anyone .....You did tell me in your last email that you would keep the haters out, but I also understand that even after you warn them, they will continue to see how far they can go, before you get pissed off and warn them again.SPARK----this is a plea from Chuck to jump in here and tell us to leave him alone...
Why in the hell would you show this correspondence via E-mail between you and Spark at this point and time of discussion....
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