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  • Jesus Christ IS God

    There are some religions out there that believe and teach that Jesus Christ is not God. Some teach that He is a god, but not thee God. I am going to demonstrate through the word of God that He is God and created all things.

    Jesus’s name “Immanuel” LITERALLY means “God with us”

    Mt 1:23 "Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel," which is translated, "God with us."

    Isa 7:14 "Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel.

    He always existed (from everlasting):

    Mic 5:2 (NKJV) "But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, [Though] you are little among the thousands of Judah, [Yet] out of you shall come forth to Me The One to be Ruler in Israel, Whose goings forth [are] from of old, From everlasting."

    This prophecy is of Christ's first comming. His Goings forth have been from everlasting because Christ Jesus is God.

    Jesus Christ is one with the Father. He is God.

    Joh 14:8 Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us." Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'? "Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. "Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.

    God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are one God:

    1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.

    Jesus declares Himself to be the great I AM of the Old Testiment. I AM is God's Name

    Joh 8:58 Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM."

    I am IS God. There is only one God. That God has three parts.

    Ex 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

    All of the Fullness of the Godhead dwells in Christ’s Body.

    Col 2:8 Beware lest anyone rob you through philosophy and vain deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the elements of the world, and not according to Christ.
    For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. And you are complete in Him, who is the Head of all principality and power,

    All Things Were Created By Jesus Christ and are Held Together by Him.

    Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And He is before all things, and by him all things consist.

    His Disciple/Apostle Peter Admits that Jesus knows “All things” (Only God knows all things)

    Joh 21:17 He said to him the third time, "Simon, son of Jonah, do you love Me?" Peter was grieved because He said to him the third time, "Do you love Me?" And he said to Him, "Lord, You know all things; You know that I love You." Jesus said to him, "Feed My sheep.

    God's plurality is found in Genesis

    Ge 1:26 ¶ Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."

    His Disciple/Apostle Thomas Confessed Him to be God and Jesus did NOT rebuke Him for it:

    Joh 20:27 Then He said to Thomas, "Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing."And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!" Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

    This verse demonstrates how God has multiple aspects. He said Let “US” make man in “OUR” image. He didn’t say, let me make man in My image, He said let US make man is OUR image.

    His Apostle/Disciple John declares Christ Jesus to be God:

    Joh 1:1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

    His Apostle/Disciple John declares that the world was made by Him (Jesus Christ)

    Joh 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him.

    All things were made by Him and He was in the beginning with God (Father)

    Joh 1:2 He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

    There are MANY places where He is worshipped and Jesus NEVER tells them not to worship Him, NOT once. Only God is to be worshipped, because Jesus IS God, Jesus IS worshipped:

    Mt 2:11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh. {presented: or, offered}
    Mt 8:2 And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.
    Mt 9:18 ¶ While he spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him, saying, My daughter is even now dead: but come and lay thy hand upon her, and she shall live.
    Mt 14:33 Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.
    Mt 15:25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
    Mt 18:26 The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. {worshipped him: or, besought him}
    Mt 28:9 And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.
    Mt 28:17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.
    Mr 5:6 But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,
    Mr 15:19 And they smote him on the head with a reed, and did spit upon him, and bowing their knees worshipped him.
    Lu 24:52 And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:
    Joh 9:38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.
    Ac 10:25 And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him.
    Re 5:14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.

    Scripture refers to Him as the Lord, Jesus Christ. The phrase "The Lord" is unique only to God:

    Here are a few mentioning "The Lord Your God"

    De 5:6 ¶ I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. {bondage: Heb. servants}

    De 5:9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,

    De 5:11 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

    De 5:12 Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee.

    Here are many calling Him Jesus Christ, The Lord.

    Ac 11:17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?

    Ac 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

    Ac 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

    Ac 28:31 Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.

    Ro 1:7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Ro 13:14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

    Ro 15:30 ¶ Now I beseech you, brethren, for the Lord Jesus Christ's sake, and for the love of the Spirit, that ye strive together with me in your prayers to God for me;

    1Co 1:3 Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

    1Co 16:22 If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.

    2Co 1:2 Grace be to you and peace from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

    2Co 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen. <>

    Eph 1:2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Eph 6:23 Peace be to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Php 1:2 Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Php 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: {conversation...: or, we live or conduct ourselves as citizens of heaven, or, for obtaining heaven}

    Col 1:2 To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

    1Th 1:1 ¶ Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

    There are many more, but I don't think I need to continue.



    Conclusion: Jesus Christ is God. Not a God but the God of the bible. God has three parts. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. All are equal, yet the Son is submissive to the Father and the Holy Spirit is submissive to the Son.

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    • I don't know. If they are so convinced that there isn't a God, then why do they feel so compelled to prove He doesnt' exist? Why not just enjoy your life? Because deep down, they fear that if God really does exist, they are in a LOT of trouble. If you look at both sides of the issue, the evidence is not on their side. That's why they try to hide evidence and censor Christians so much.

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      • Originally posted by xfrodobagginsx View Post
        I don't know. If they are so convinced that there isn't a God, then why do they feel so compelled to prove He doesnt' exist? Why not just enjoy your life? Because deep down, they fear that if God really does exist, they are in a LOT of trouble. If you look at both sides of the issue, the evidence is not on their side. That's why they try to hide evidence and censor Christians so much.
        I think the evidence does lean towards evolution, because of like fossil found and are determined to be millions of years old. The book says that the devil can decieve us. So I think its the work of the devil. The Bible says the world is 6000 years old if Im not mistaken.

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        • and Dinosaurs? Explain that to me.

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          • Originally posted by Letswinalot View Post
            and Dinosaurs? Explain that to me.
            A lot of theologians will explain that the first six "days" were not "days" but periods of time. Maybe 1000's of years. So when it says on the first day God created the heaven and the earth, that was over thousands of years. But since the writer of Genesis didn't know exactly how long, he just said day. The dinosaurs and animals were there a day/1000's of years, before man etc.
            Last edited by ToDaClub; 04-24-2012, 03:50 PM.

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            • Six Days Of Creation

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              • PS. I am not a theologian, but I did sleep in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

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                • Ok thanks. Ive heard that before and believe that. I believe in God 100%. Freakin Atheists make me mad.

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                  • Originally posted by ToDaClub View Post
                    PS. I am not a theologian, but I did sleep in a Holiday Inn Express last night.
                    Questions, comments, complaints:
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                    • Originally posted by ToDaClub View Post
                      A lot of theologians will explain that the first six "days" were not "days" but periods of time. Maybe 1000's of years. So when it says on the first day God created the heaven and the earth, that was over thousands of years. But since the writer of Genesis didn't know exactly how long, he just said day. The dinosaurs and animals were there a day/1000's of years, before man etc.
                      That's known as the Gap Theory, but even in the Gap Theory were true, there was no death until after Adam sinned. The bible is very clear that they were 24 hour days. It's denoted by the phrase "The evening and the morning were the _______ day"

                      Ge 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. {And the evening...: Heb. And the evening was, and the morning was etc.}
                      Ge 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day. {And the evening...: Heb. And the evening was, and the morning was etc.}
                      Ge 1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day. {And the evening...: Heb. And the evening was, and the morning was etc.}
                      Ge 1:19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day. {And the evening...: Heb. And the evening was, and the morning was etc.}
                      Ge 1:23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day. {And the evening...: Heb. And the evening was, and the morning was etc.}
                      Ge 1:31 ¶ And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. {And the evening...: Heb. And the evening was, and the morning was etc.}

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                      • The Laws of Conservation




                        The laws of conservation are basic laws in physics that state which processes can or cannot occur in nature. Each law maintains the total value of the quantity governed by that law (e.g. matter and energy) remains unchanged during physical processes. Conservation laws have the broadest possible application of all laws in physics and are considered to be the most fundamental laws in nature. In 1905, the theory of relativity showed mass was a form of energy and the two laws governing these quantities were combined into a single law conserving the total amount of mass and energy. This law says neither matter nor energy can be created or destroyed. This fact leads to an inescapable question.





                        If matter and energy cannot be created, how did they originate?

                        Where did the entire physical universe come from?




                        Again, it is impossible to create matter and energy through natural methods. However, they do exist, so we find ourselves in a quandary. It would seem to the unbiased either matter and energy made themselves from nothing or a supernatural creator made them. Both answers violate the law of conservation. The fact that matter and energy cannot be created is consistent with the claim in Genesis which says God rested from his work and all he created. This law of science contradicts the notion that matter came from nothing through natural means. Bible believing theists understand the universe was framed by the Word of God and what is seen did not come from things that are visible. God is the one who calls those things that do not exist as though they did.





                        Why couldn't the universe have always existed?

                        Because nothing that has a beginning and an end could have always existed.




                        Today, virtually all scientists accept theBig Bang theory which says the entire universe came into existence at a particular point in time when all of the galaxies, stars and planets were formed. The Law of Entropy says closed systems go from a state of high energy to low energy and from order to disorder. All closed systems, including our universe, disintegrate over time as they decay to a lower order of available energy and organization. Entropy always increases and never decreases in a closed system. All scientific observations confirm everything continues to move towards a greater state of decay and disorder. Because the available energy is being used up and there is no source of new energy, the universe could not have always existed. If the universe has always existed, it would now be uniform in temperature, suffering what is known as heat death. Heat Death occurs when the universe has reached a state of maximum entropy. It is a fact that one day our sun and all stars in the universe will burn out. Electromagnetic radiation will disappear and all matter will lose its vibrational energy. Because the stars cannot burn forever and because they are still currently burning, they could not have always existed because they would have already burned out by now.



                        Some believe the law of entropy cannot be applied to the universe because they feel the universe is an open system and not a closed one. A closed system is defined as a system in which neither matter nor energy can be exchanged with its surroundings. Matter and energy cannot enter or escape from a closed system. It has boundaries that cannot be crossed. The definition of the word universe is all matter and energy, including the earth, the galaxies and the contents of intergalactic space, regarded as a whole.





                        If the universe is "all matter and energy", how could it be an open system?

                        If the universe is everything, how can there be something else out there to provide more matter and energy?




                        The skeptic asks, "If God created the universe, then who created God?" God is the uncreated creator of the universe, so the question, "Who created God?" is illogical. A better question would be, "If the universe needs a cause, then why doesn't God need a cause? And if God doesn't need a cause, why should the universe need a cause?" Everything which has a beginninghas a cause. The universe has a beginning; therefore, the universe has a cause. It is important to stress the words "which has a beginning". The universe requires a cause because it had a beginning. God, unlike the universe, had no beginning, so he does not need a cause. Einstein's general relativity shows that time is linked to matter and space. Time itself would have begun along with matter and space at the beginning of the universe. Since God is the creator of the whole universe, he is the creator of time and is independent and outside of time. He is not limited by the time dimension he created, so he has no beginning in time.





                        There is not even one generally accepted scientific theory on the origin of matter and energy.




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                        The Law of Biogenesis




                        This law is composed of two parts. The first part states that living things only come from other living things and not from non-living matter. Life only comes from life. The second part of this law states that when living things procreate, their offspring are the same type of organism they are. This is consistent with the account revealed in Genesis which says all living things reproduce after their own kind. Sharks only come from other sharks, snakes from other snakes, owls from other owls, orange trees from other orange trees, etc. Every living organism alive today is a product of and evidence for biogenesis. Some people feel biogenesis is not a scientific law, but biogenesis is a law because no one has ever documented a single case of non-living matter coming to life in self-replicating form.It is as true today as it has ever been. On the other hand, abiogenesis has been debunked many times over. When someone observes the first example of spontaneous generation which includes self-replicating machinery (DNA and RNA), biogenesis will no longer be a law. Until that time, it remains one.



                        If one stretched out a strand of DNA from the oldest and most basic organism known to man, a bacterium, it would be almost1,000 times longer than the diameter of the bacterium itself. Its DNA pattern is about 4 million blocks long. Where did all of this exquisite information come from? The components of a bacterium are far more complex than any machine mankind has ever made. There is absolutely zero scientific evidence of the existence of any organisms between the supposed event of abiogenesis and bacteria. This is the biggest missing link of all. There is absolutely no evidence any such organism is alive today or was ever alive in the past. Some feel it makes total sense no such fossils exist because the creature would have been made up of parts which do not fossilize well. If this argument was valid, there would not be any fossils of bacteria but there are.



                        Replication requires the complex machinery of DNA and RNA which are collectively known as the genome. According to evolution, something like the genome could only achieve its utter complexity through replication, cumulative selection and mutation.





                        How could DNA and RNA evolve from something very rudimentary into their present day intricacy when the organism containing the basic genome would require the more complex, present day DNA and RNA to replicate?





                        The Gene Emergence Project has sponsored an event called The Origin of Life Prize.They are currently offering 1.35 million dollars to anyone who can offer a credible, verifiable and reproducible explanation of the origin of life. They are by no means a creation science group. Their advisors include biochemists, molecular biologists, biophysicists, information theorists, artificial life and intelligence experts, exo/astrobiologists, mathematicians and origin-of-life researchers in many related fields. The Foundation's main purpose is to encourage interdisciplinary, multi-institutional research projects by theoretical biophysicists and origin-of-life researchers with special focus on the origin of genetic information/instructions/message/recipe in living organisms. They want to know by what mechanism initial genetic code arose in nature. They are requiring full reign be given to the exploration of spontaneously forming complexity and to inanimate systems of self-organization and replication.





                        There is not even one generally accepted scientific theory on the origin of life.




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                        Scientific Method




                        The scientific method is held in high esteem by most atheists and it is composed of the following parts...





                        1) Careful observation of a phenomenon.

                        2) Formulation of a hypothesis concerning the phenomenon.

                        3) Experimentation to demonstrate whether the hypothesis is true or false.

                        4) A conclusion that validates or modifies the hypothesis.





                        Nobody has ever observed the creation of matter or energy.

                        Nobody has ever observed a molecular cloud collapse or any planet form.

                        Nobody has ever observed abiogenesis.

                        Nobody has ever observed the evolution of any genome.

                        Nobody has ever observed any phylum, class, order or family change.





                        Evolutionists are excellent at Step 2 -Hypothesizing.



                        The only problem comes on Steps 1, 3 and 4 -Observation, Experimentation and Validation.



                        We read about their theories and the conclusions of the failed experiments they performed in an effort to validate their opinions about a phenomenon that has not only never been proven scientifically but has never even been observed.



                        The definition of a miracle is an event which is inexplicable by the laws of nature. The fact is there are zero generally accepted scientific explanations on these issues. If you want to believe in naturalism it is fine with me but please don't make the erroneous claim that "science" is on your side.







                        What term is used to describe something you believe to be true but has no empirical evidence?



                        Faith.




                        The bottom line is we live in a universe which completely frustrates any attempt to explain its origin and content by natural processes alone. The best evidence for the possible existence of a supernatural creator lies in the total lack of any scientific evidence in these key areas. Can God be scientifically proven? No, it would be nice but his existence cannot be proven scientifically. The reason is God is supernatural; he exists outside thenatural, scientific world. While our scientific tools cannot prove God exists, they do provide us with evidence we can use to determine if there is a better explanation for what has taken place besides the existence of a supernatural creator.



                        It is interesting how atheists reject any notion of the supernatural because of what they perceive to be a lack of evidence when they could use that same objectivity to reject their naturalistic world view. Most atheists are not even honest enough to apply the same burden of proof for naturalism that they demand of supernaturalism.



                        The laws of science falsify the notion that this physical, living world came to be through natural means. These laws provide very credible evidence for the possible existence of a supernatural being. Atheism violates these basic laws of science. Atheism requires not only a tremendous amount of faith but also a belief in miracles. And not only miracles but natural miracles, an oxymoron. Both naturalism and supernaturalism require faith and which one you place your faith in is one of the two most important choices you will ever make.





                        How did life begin?

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                        • The Laws of Fast Food

                          Why does a 1/3 lb. burger turn into less than a quarter pounder by the time it gets on the bun ??

                          Why do you have to bake an apple pie but not a Banana Cream Pie ??

                          The Laws of Gravity

                          How does one not hurdle a 12 inch high fence and come crashing down to earth and snap a Femur ??
                          He who wears diaper knows his shit - Confucius

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                            • Originally posted by insidethe8thpol View Post
                              The Laws of Gravity

                              How does one not hurdle a 12 inch high fence and come crashing down to earth and snap a Femur ??
                              Law of gravity: When one can only jump 6 inches off the ground....The 12 inch high fence looks like the Wall of China.
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                              I'm just here so I won't get fined....

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                              • Originally posted by KazDog View Post
                                Law of gravity: When one can only jump 6 inches off the ground....The 12 inch high fence looks like the Wall of China.
                                I call Bull Shit. I'm guessing when KB jumps, you would have a hard time sliding a credit card under his shoes.

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