Well KB...lets start our own trash talking now...

[kbsooner21]

They why you bitchin about it asshat.....lol

I would just hate for anyone to read my name in the title of the thread and come in looking for my brilliant knowledge only to find out I haven't made very many posts in here is all

[longnex]

Look at it this way, this thread will have more posts and views then the Nascar forum when all is said and done, and you will have been involved

I thought the nascar forum shut down a month ago.

[longnex]

Well Rook, one thing Notre Dame can hang it's hat on is it is the preseason pick to come in first among the Independents:

Independents
Predicted finish
1. Notre Dame
2. Navy
3. Army
4. Western Kentucky

[10DimeBry]

I thought the nascar forum shut down a month ago.

it should be. the only thing in their is articles that KB cuts and pastes.

[10DimeBry]

navy will have a better record than ND this year

[BillMill71]

I would just hate for anyone to read my name in the title of the thread and come in looking for my brilliant knowledge only to find out I haven't made very many posts in here is all

Oh please, share your knowledge. The only chance OK has to compete is if they go back to running the option

[kbsooner21]

Oh please, share your knowledge. The only chance OK has to compete is if they go back to running the option

Is that so?

[longnex]

I would just hate for anyone to read my name in the title of the thread and come in looking for my brilliant knowledge only to find out I haven't made very many posts in here is all

As long as you have that avatar, no one will take you seriously.

[BillMill71]

Is that so?

13-2 Victory in 2000 barely gets you the National Championship (possibly the greatest defensive effort ever in a big Bowl). Before that the last National Championship you had was 1985, 22 YEARS AGO.

Jamelle Holieway running the option. Bring him back and maybe, maybe you have a shot at returning to dominance.

Once again maybe a top 5 team NEXT Year

[TheRook]

Be careful how you read that data. You have that many "points" due to your high number of commitments to date. As other commitments come in you will go up and down in rankings. Clearly what you can see here is statistical parody between the top 20 or so recruiting classes. Something that did NOT exist over 10 years ago. It would clearly be ND and the other elites, with other schools way off the pace (Clemson, NC State and Pitt would NEVER have gotten a 5 star High School athlete).

Also you cannot look at just one class and define a teams ability to contend on the field (outside of the armed services division). You need to look at 3 years worth of classes.

2007 ND Class 8th
2006 ND Class 8th
2005 ND Class 40th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2004 ND Class 32nd!!!!!!!!!

So your seniors and juniors will make it tough to be a top tier team any longer. Although you are definitely headed in the right direction. Only problem is schools like USC, Florida, Texas and LSU have all had better classes then the 2006 & 2007 classes at ND. So even in the future it looks like you are headed to a 5th + finish in the polls


But back to our original discussion, it is amazing 19 3 Star plus blue chip atheletes that can maintain the Achademic excellence admission policies of ND. Unbelieveable.

I was looking at more then one year...I was looking at two. And now I can look at three with your data

2006-8th
2007-8th
2008-1st (as of now)

Thanks for that.

[BillMill71]

As long as you have that avatar, no one will take you seriously.

Think about this, KB's teams:

College - Oklahoma
Nascar - Junior
NFL - Buffalo
MLB - Cubs
Baskets - Who the hell knows.

Damn, none of them win.

How am I doing JC? Laughing yet?

[10DimeBry]

big 12 is the most overrated conference in football. its not even close.

[kbsooner21]

13-2 Victory in 2000 barely gets you the National Championship (possibly the greatest defensive effort ever in a big Bowl). Before that the last National Championship you had was 1985, 22 YEARS AGO.

Jamelle Holieway running the option. Bring him back and maybe, maybe you have a shot at returning to dominance.

Once again maybe a top 5 team NEXT Year

Besides our team not having any experience an QB, what else don't you like about that team?

P.S. How does that "barely" get us the national championship?

[BillMill71]

I was looking at more then one year...I was looking at two. And now I can look at three with your data

2006-8th
2007-8th
2008-1st (as of now)

Thanks for that.

Welcome, now you can clearly see that you may be in the top ten, but not sniff the top 5 for at least the next 3 years.

Please see the definition of Failure

[TheRook]

The bold above should read "Because Notre Dame WAS as elite as they WERE IN THE PAST

Your opinion is respected.

I disagree.