Mule, VinnieB and Tony Vegas

[Spark]

I don't post plays here for a simple reason and may be considered an Ass because of it. But I honestly can't stand it if I lose and feel that someone played hard earned money on something I picked which ended up losing. That bothers me.

KAZ

KAZ, I wish you didn't feel that way ....

[frankb03]

Because they feel like they found the second coming of Christ .. but it makes no sense to keep telling them that their opinions mean nothing .. they have to learn for themselves .. I say warning them is fine but going back and forth with them is ridiculous ..
Now, if we had proof that someone was out to scam or cheat or lie .. total different subject ... You know I would be the first one in there .. I have never backed down to these guys and never will ..

Doesn't the 2nd coming have the right to express his opinion?

Who said newbies opinions don't mean anything? I never said that.

What's interesting is fro11bm created a post towards me first. NOT the other way around. He singled me out. I didn't single him out. I simply asked why the majority of his contribution was dedicated to defending Seanie. I never questioned his right to post his opinion.

Show me where I told another member their opinion means nothing.

[KazDog]

Spark....I'm going to really make an effort to post more plays. I really like some this weekend, so hopefully they will be winners and I'll feel like I contributed.....Thanks man!

KAZ

[vinnyvegas]

Another thread that should be moved to the non-sport issues section...LOL

[Meg30]

The EGG

[Spark]

Spark....I'm going to really make an effort to post more plays. I really like some this weekend, so hopefully they will be winners and I'll feel like I contributed.....Thanks man!

KAZ

Thats great KAZ .. thats what we want to hear ...

[frankb03]

But I have to admit, this does seem like a very cliquee group and it can be intimidating to some to open up.

Kaz, I know many feel that way. But from inside the so called clique it's not true. The clique isn't closed. Look at a guy like JCindaville. He was a newbie at one time. He's only been a member of 6 months. He immediately joined in the fun. Some guys do. Some guys don't.

Don't blame the 'clique' because you are too intimidated to open up.

[BigTicket]

Not that my opinion stands for much, but I think we got way too much going on here, too many dynamics going on in what people perceive as a single argument. Somehow we all need to step back, cool off, and just let things play out. Everyone is different, I can read threads where Frank is questioning things, even if I don't agree with him, it doesn't get me all riled up into a tizzy and make me want to take my ball and go home. However it has never been directed at me so I don't know how that feels really. But bashing does occur much more on other forums, so that has to be taken into consideration somewhat, even though I realize that doesn't mean we should bash here. Everything seems to be getting blown wayyy out of proportion right now. I can't stand the way rainman is bashing frank's NBA plays, a proven NBA capper plus the season just started, but it doesn't compell me to jump in their and start ripping on him. Ya just let it run off ya and focus your attention on more important things.

[Tony Vegas]

Tony, we all start with the same number of posts. ZERO. So we ALL start as equals. Some decide to make contributions and some don't.

Totally agree. However, alot of vets on here jump on newbies the first chance they get. When lurkers see that, and this is my opinion, they probably think why post if I am going to get shit for it. I never lurked. I signed up and posted. The bashing gets so out of hand sometimes it is crazy. I am guilty of it sometimes as well. We just don't have to beat the rainman thing to death. Some are going to follow him. Nothing you post will change that. So let his thread die down. If he is corrupt, time will tell (sorry for using your line kapt!).

[KazDog]

I'm not intimidated.....I've called people out here because of what I perceived as bullshit statements. I just think there are some who may be intimidated. I don't post plays for the reason I gave. That's NOT intimidation.

But as an outsider, some guys seem like they are considered family and some guys are not. That's the clique I guess. I think some have been given a lot of slack while others have been put on a short rope.
Just my opinion....

KAZ

[BigWeiner]

I think the bashing is good. If Frank didn't keep these people honest, we'd have all kinds of members claiming to win huge percentages, we'd have services trying to sneak in. Screw it, I say bash away, if you can't take the heat, get out the kitchen. People come here because they want good advice, not random advice, if the site is not regulated, everyone will get bad advice and the site will be useless. I don't know if that made sense, but....

[frankb03]

I can't stand the way rainman is bashing frank's NBA plays, a proven NBA capper plus the season just started, but it doesn't compell me to jump in their and start ripping on him. Ya just let it run off ya and focus your attention on more important things.

BT, first your opinion matters to me. I respect you and your opinions. We haven't always agreed but I'd like to say we disagreed with respect.

Regarding rainman bashing my plays it doesn't bother me. I consider the source. IF the bashing came from a member I respected then it would sting a little.

[Tony Vegas]

I think the bashing is good. If Frank didn't keep these people honest, we'd have all kinds of members claiming to win huge percentages, we'd have services trying to sneak in. Screw it, I say bash away, if you can't take the heat, get out the kitchen. People come here because they want good advice, not random advice, if the site is not regulated, everyone will get bad advice and the site will be useless. I don't know if that made sense, but....

exactly. it is good to a point though. too much bashing just leads to them getting more views and more exposure.

[BigTicket]

BT, first your opinion matters to me. I respect you and your opinions. We haven't always agreed but I'd like to say we disagreed with respect.

Regarding rainman bashing my plays it doesn't bother me. I consider the source. IF the bashing came from a member I respected then it would sting a little.

Yea man, frank you are one of my favs on here, but I can also see how the reason for that is I do feel part of the BC fam, I guess others just feel you are personally attacking them where I see it from a different angle. And I think we mostly agree, I guess I can't really remember being opposites with you, so maybe my opinion is biased

[frankb03]

So let his thread die down. If he is corrupt, time will tell (sorry for using your line kapt!).

I agree. That is why I created a new thread. I wanted to address posts that were direct towards me. I didn't want to keep that thread active. I made one post in his thread. I didn't direct it towards anyone. He and others 'bashed' me. LOL