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  • #46
    Originally posted by friday
    intersting thread CB, but I seriously doubt phil steele had much to do with that line movement. every preview show was belaboring the fact that starting safety brown was out and about 1-1/2 hrs before gametime it was announced urlacher was inactive. at that time, the line started to really move.

    the only service play that I have ever known to really make a difference in vegas was Doc's big 10 GOY. he hit it like 17 years in a row in the '80's and early 90's. if you didn't get down right as that play was released, you lost your line value. the heavy hitters in vegas (wise guys, steam plays) are what moves the lines.
    friday, I disagree. When NC releases a top selection the line moves quickly. I saw it happen many times this preseason and again this past Sunday. Yesterday I played Da Bears at +11 before Minny was released by NC. After they released the game it quickly moved. Just before game time it moved to +13 at some sites.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by frankb03
      friday, I disagree. When NC releases a top selection the line moves quickly. I saw it happen many times this preseason and again this past Sunday. Yesterday I played Da Bears at +11 before Minny was released by NC. After they released the game it quickly moved. Just before game time it moved to +13 at some sites.
      frank-
      you're seeing the wise guys move the line who play action early in the week and then come back and play before game time, the same time the service release their plays. it's just a coincidence. phil steele is not moving lines like that. in the vikes/bears case, as soon as the general public found out that the bears LB urlacher was declared inactive for the game (which just so happended to be at the same time the service plays were released), the number shot up.
      Last edited by friday; 09-28-2004, 07:21 AM.

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      • #48
        buddy...if you really think that line moved for any reason other than Steele, you are...well, wrong. I guess it's just a coincidence that his preseason plays are always the ones that move...oh yeah...probably just everyone in Ames betting the Cyclones that moved the number from 3 to 6' in 10 minutes a couple of weeks ago. C'mon...you can't be serious.

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        • #49
          Friday

          Hey - Been with Northcoast for 12 years ... Some of his games move the line just like the move in Minny / Chicago did

          The games he gives out which move lines are

          All Pre season football selections
          5* College games
          5* College Game of the Year ( I've seen 6 point moves on these )
          4* NFL Games of the Month
          5* NFL Game of the Year
          5* College Bowl Game of the Year

          Happens year in and year out and like I said I've been with them since 1992

          Take care,
          -CB

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          • #50
            Neyland

            I have no idea as to what you are talking about .

            Good luck to you now..... BUDDY

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            • #51
              Cover Boy

              You are the English Professor, and US students are only trying to arise to your level. This will never happen, for what you stated is the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so help me God. I've come to realize that not ALL weekend games are in the fix mold, but only two or three. If I could know what these games were ahead of time I would never work again in my life. Let the rest of the "experts" wage on the losers. Please,continue to educate us...
              yah mon!!!

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              • #52
                stripe...2 to 3 games a week are "fixed"? First of all that's ridiculous on its face...but how ignorant does that make you for betting on a sport you know is fixed? The smarter you are the less you believe in fixes...the dumber you are...

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                • #53
                  I would bet anything if it could be proven that Steele's picks move the lines big time.
                  Last edited by savage1; 09-28-2004, 11:59 PM.

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                  • #54
                    Savage

                    Hey Bud - When Steele puts out his college Game of the Year (we'll all know in advance when he will ) we'll try to get the pick right out of the gate .... you'll see the line move big time... it always does.

                    Take Care,
                    -CB

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                    • #55
                      Neyland

                      First off - please type in the name of the person whom you're addressing your comments to.

                      Second - don't ever think you will get away with insults like " ignorant" and "dumber" to any members of Our Thing.

                      We won't permit this disrespect - Zero Tolerance

                      You have 2 options:

                      Straighten up or get out .. your choice ... if not .. we will make the choice for you ... and you'll be left with none

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                      • #56
                        TO HELL WITH PIGGY, I KNOW FOR A FACT IN COLLEGE BASKETBALL IT HAPPENS MORE THAN YOU KNOW..DO I FEEL IGNORANT FOR BETTING ON A FIXED SPORT NO. CAUSE SHIT HAPPENS.
                        GOTTA LOVE BASKETBALL!!!
                        STILL FOLLOW AT OWN RISK

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                        • #57
                          Thanks Logan

                          Who's "Piggy" ?? LOL

                          I know no one by that name and that person doesn't and never will know me.

                          Best of Luck, Logan
                          -CB

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                          • #58
                            you don't mind betting on a sport that's fixed? Thanks for clearing up some ideas I already had. That is astounding to me.

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                            • #59
                              Neyland

                              Hey Pal - Who the hell cares ? Enough of you already.

                              Bring contributions to the table or STFU.

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                              • #60
                                My 02

                                I am from Eastern Europe and let me tell you there is no fix like the one we have at home in soccer games. Easiest games to fix and some of them are fixed. I have seen it with my own eyes, but this in Eastern Europe late 80’s.

                                Here in USA there is so much more $$$ being wagered on sports so there must be something to it too.


                                This is my sole opinion.

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