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BOWL SYSTEMS THAT KICKED ASS THE LAST FEW YRS(33-14 and 23-9 IN '07 / 29-12 IN '08)

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  • #16
    yes, the main issue however, is that Bradford won the heisman...seeing as how that is what the system is..but we are splitting hairs here...bottom line...chalk 1 more W up for the system..

    by the way..thanks a bunch for posting all of these systems GG...these are much appreciated..

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    • #17
      Originally posted by GOLDENGREEK View Post
      Moneyline / Rankings etc.. System

      2007: 33-14 ATS
      2008: 29-12 ATS




      BROKEN DOWN BY SYSTEM:


      2 Units-Bet the dog if the teams have exactly the same won lost record

      THIS IS THE WEAKEST OF THE BUNCH

      2007: 2-3 ATS
      2008: 2-5 ATS



      2 Units-Bet the dog if the teams have exactly the same won lost record

      THIS IS THE WEAKEST OF THE BUNCH

      2007: 2-3 ATS
      2008: 2-5 ATS

      CENTRAL FLORIDA + 2.5
      BOSTON COLLEGE + 9
      WISKY + 3
      IDAHO + 1.5
      IOWA ST + 2.5
      OHIO ST + 3.5
      N.ILL + 6.5
      UCONN + 4.5
      TEXAS + 5

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      • #18
        Originally posted by GOLDENGREEK View Post
        Moneyline / Rankings etc.. System

        2007: 33-14 ATS
        2008: 29-12 ATS








        3 Units and 5 Units
        Bet the team with the worst season record for 3 Units if a dog.
        If that team is a favorite, play them on the money line for a risk of 5 Units:


        2007: 19-7 ATS
        2008: 12- 3 ATS



        5 UNIT PLAYS: If that team is a favorite, play them on the money line for a risk of 5 Units

        2007: 10-2
        2008: 8-1 OR 8-2





        .

        3 Units and 5 Units
        Bet the team with the worst season record for 3 Units if a dog.
        If that team is a favorite, play them on the money line for a risk of 5 Units:


        2007: 19-7 ATS
        2008: 12- 3 ATS

        Wyoming + 11
        SMU + 15
        Marshall + 21.5
        North Carolina + 3
        Kentucky + 7.5
        Texas A&M + 7
        Air Force + 4.5
        Tennessee + 4.5
        Florida State + 2.5
        LSU + 2.5
        Michigan State + 8
        *Iowa + 4 ( IS 11-2 CONSIDERED A BETTER RECORD THAT 10-2 ? )
        Troy + 3.5




        5 UNIT PLAYS: If that team is a favorite, play them on the money line for a risk of 5 Units

        2007: 10-2
        2008: 8-1 OR 8-2


        ALL MONEY LINE PLAYS:

        So Mississippi
        Oregon State
        California
        UCLA
        OKLAHOMA
        Auburn
        Florida
        Mississippi
        Arkansas

        *** ARIZONA -- IS 9-4 CONSIDERED A BETTER RECORD THAN 8-4 ?

        ** Missouri- -- IS 9-4 CONSIDERED A BETTER RECORD THAN 8-4 ?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by GOLDENGREEK View Post
          Moneyline / Rankings etc.. System


          Lower Ranked Teams as a dog to higher Ranked Teams

          2007: 3-2 ATS
          2008: 5-3 ATS



          .

          North Carolina + 3
          Boston College + 9
          Wisconsin + 3
          Tennessee + 4.5
          Florida State + 2.5
          OHIO ST + 3.5
          Boise State + 7
          IOWA + 4
          TEXAS + 5



          ** NO IDEA WHAT TO DO WITH THESE:

          Nebraska / ARIZ
          PENN ST / LSU


          4 POLLS

          BCS:

          ARZ # 20
          NEBR # 22

          AP:

          NEB # 20
          ARIZ # 22

          USA TODAY:

          NEB # 19
          ARIZ # 23

          ESPN:

          ARIZ # 20
          NEB # 21

          SIMILAR THING WITH PENN ST AND LSU

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          • #20
            Originally posted by GOLDENGREEK View Post
            Moneyline / Rankings etc.. System


            Lower Ranked Teams as a favorite vs Higher Ranked Teams

            2007: 3-0 ATS
            2008: 1-1 ATS


            Oregon State - 2.5
            CAL - 3.5
            OKLAHOMA - 8
            FLORIDA - 11
            OLE MISS - 3


            AGAIN...** NO IDEA WHAT TO DO WITH THESE:

            Nebraska / ARIZ
            PENN ST / LSU

            ( SEE ABOVE)

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            • #21
              Originally posted by goldengreek View Post
              moneyline / rankings etc.. System


              a team not ranked as a dog to a ranked team:

              2007: 6-0 ats
              2008: 2-0 ats



              .
              n.carolina + 3
              b.c + 9
              tenn + 4.5
              flor st + 2.5

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              • #22
                Originally posted by goldengreek View Post
                moneyline / rankings etc.. System

                a team not ranked that is a favorite over a ranked team

                2007: 1-1 ats
                2008: 2-0 ats



                .

                cal - 3.5
                oklahoma -8
                ole miss - 3

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                • #23
                  I just finished the math for the Running Dog system for all the bowl games this morning. IF I did the math correctly, I came up with the following...

                  Central Florida
                  Wisconsin
                  Temple
                  Idaho
                  Air Force
                  Iowa State
                  Connecticut
                  Oklahoma State
                  Michigan State

                  I did all this work in an Excel Spreadsheet so the only thing I could have screwed up was the formula, but I think I understood it from last year's thread. A couple other games were real close. For example, BYU is 0.54 and Oregon State is 0.56, only a difference of 0.02, but BYU is smaller and getting the points, so by the letter is was a no play.

                  Scott

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by goldengreek View Post
                    moneyline / rankings etc.. System


                    teams that hit in more than one system without opposition hit a high percentage last year


                    2008: 6-2 ats




                    top plays ( 3-0 )

                    cal
                    oklahoma
                    ole miss
                    north car
                    bost coll
                    tenn
                    fl st


                    2-0

                    org st
                    flor
                    ohio st
                    iowa
                    texas
                    wisky

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by GOLDENGREEK View Post
                      RUNNING DOG SYSTEM

                      STOLEN / BORROWED FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THE SYSTEM

                      I'm pretty much going to follow the same formula as I did last year. ( 2007 ) We had an outstanding bowl season with the running dogs. The better running teams OVERALL in general were 22-10 SU and 23-9 ATS last year. But keep in mind that they aren't going to hit this well every year. [B]In the 2006 bowl season the better running teams were 20-12 SU but only 18-14 ATS[/B]. So we have to be careful as we go, and to just remember that none of these Running Dogs are set in granite. The underdogs who had the better run numbers were 10-4 ATS last year. And 7-3 (71%) the season before. So that's why you really need to think hard before you go against a running dog.



                      2007: 10-4 ATS
                      2008: 9-5 ATS




                      .

                      According to the BettorsChat archives, the Running Dogs were 7-3 in 2006 so you can add that to our history.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by GOLDENGREEK View Post
                        RUNNING DOG SYSTEM

                        STOLEN / BORROWED FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THE SYSTEM

                        I'm pretty much going to follow the same formula as I did last year. ( 2007 ) We had an outstanding bowl season with the running dogs. The better running teams OVERALL in general were 22-10 SU and 23-9 ATS last year. But keep in mind that they aren't going to hit this well every year. [B]In the 2006 bowl season the better running teams were 20-12 SU but only 18-14 ATS[/B]. So we have to be careful as we go, and to just remember that none of these Running Dogs are set in granite. The underdogs who had the better run numbers were 10-4 ATS last year. And 7-3 (71%) the season before. So that's why you really need to think hard before you go against a running dog.


                        2006: 7-3 ATS
                        2007: 10-4 ATS
                        2008: 9-5 ATS




                        .
                        THANK U ICD55 FOR THE HELP

                        MUCH APPRECIATTED

                        WE ARE VERY CLOSE !!


                        C. FLORIDA
                        TEMPLE
                        WISKY
                        IDAHO
                        AIR FORCE
                        IOWA ST
                        N.ILL
                        UCONN
                        MICH ST
                        IOWA

                        MIDDLE TN ST ( THIS ONE IS TIED BUT MID TENN ST IS A DOG)

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by ICD55 View Post
                          I just finished the math for the Running Dog system for all the bowl games this morning. IF I did the math correctly, I came up with the following...

                          Central Florida
                          Wisconsin
                          Temple
                          Idaho
                          Air Force
                          Iowa State
                          Connecticut
                          Oklahoma State
                          Michigan State

                          I did all this work in an Excel Spreadsheet so the only thing I could have screwed up was the formula, but I think I understood it from last year's thread. A couple other games were real close. For example, BYU is 0.54 and Oregon State is 0.56, only a difference of 0.02, but BYU is smaller and getting the points, so by the letter is was a no play.

                          Scott
                          THESE ARE OUR DIFFRENCES:

                          YOU HAVE OKIE ST....I DONT

                          I HAVE IOWA, N.ILL , AND MIDD TENN ST ( WHICH WAS TIED ) YOU DONT

                          CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT YOUR NUMBERS ARE

                          HERE ARE MINE:

                          Ole Miss +0.17 difference
                          IOWA + 0.1 diffrence
                          N.ILL + 0.4 diffrence
                          Mid tenn st - 0

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by goldengreek View Post
                            bucking the heisman winner in the bowls


                            bucking the heisman winner in the bowls


                            bowl system

                            betting against the heisman winner in the bowls
                            one of the easiest bowl systems around, is to go against the
                            team on which the current heisman trophy winner plays. Here are the results from the last 35 games in which the heisman winner played.

                            Heisman winner line result
                            1974 so calif 18 - ohio state (archie griffin) 17 + 6½ winner
                            1975 ucla 23 - ohio state (archie griffin) 10 + 14 winner
                            1976 georgia 3 - pittsburgh (tony dorsett) 27 + 3½ loser
                            1977 notre dame 38 - texas (earl campbell) 10 + 6½ winner
                            1978 nebraska 24 - oklahoma (billy sims) 31 + 11 winner
                            1979 ohio state 16 - so calif (charles white) 17 + 7½ winner
                            1980 pittsburgh 37 - so caro (george rogers) 9 - 10 winner
                            1981 penn state 26 - so calif (marcus allen) 10 + 2 winner
                            1982 penn state 27 - georgia (herschel walker) 23 - 4 tie
                            1983 miami (fla) 31 - nebraska (mike rozier) 30 + 11½ winner
                            1984 houston 28 - boston college (doug flutie) 45 + 6 loser
                            1985 texas a&m 36 - auburn (bo jackson) 16 + 2½ winner
                            1986 penn state 14 - miami (vinnie testaverde) 10 + 7 winner
                            1987 texas a&m 35 - notre dame (tim brown ) 10 + 4½ winner
                            1988 wyoming 14 - okla st (barry sanders) 62 + 2½ loser
                            1989 houston (andre ware) did not go to a bowl.
                            1990 texas a&m 65 - byu (ty detmer) 14 + 3 winner
                            1991 washington 34 - mich (desmond howard) 14 - 6½ winner
                            1992 alabama 34 - miami (gino torretta) 13 + 8 winner
                            1993 nebraska 16 - florida st (charlie ward) 18 + 15½ winner
                            1994 notre dame 24 - colorado (r. Salaam) 41 + 7½ loser
                            1995 tennessee 20 - ohio state (eddie george) 14 - 4 winner
                            1996 florida st 20 - florida (danny wuerffel) 52 + 3½ loser
                            1997 wash st 16 - michigan (charles woodson) 21 + 6 winner
                            1998 mississippi st 11 - texas (ricky williams) 38 + 6½ loser
                            1999 stanford 9 - wisconsin (ron dayne) 17 + 13½ winner
                            2000 oklahoma 13 - florida state (chris weinke) 2 + 10 winner
                            2001 miami-florida 37 - nebraska (eric crouch) 14 - 8½ winner
                            2002 iowa 17 - southern california (carson palmer) 38 + 5 loser
                            2003 louisiana st 21 - oklahoma (jason white) 14 + 5½ winner
                            2004 oklahoma 19 - so california (matt leinart) 55 + 2 loser
                            2005 texas 41 - so california (reggie bush) 38 + 7 winner
                            2006 florida 41 - ohio state (troy smith) 14 + 4 winner
                            2007 michigan 41 - florida (tim tebow) 35 + 10½ winner
                            2008 florida 24 - oklahoma (sam bradford) 14 +5 winner


                            result: 25-8-1: 73.5% vs spread

                            you would bet texas + 5

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                            • #29
                              I have the following final numbers

                              Middle Tenn. St 0.86 (dog)
                              Southern Miss 1.03

                              Iowa 0.39 (dog)
                              Georgia Tech 0.61

                              Northern Ill. 0.65 (dog)
                              South Florida 0.69

                              Okie State 1.64 (dog)
                              Mississippi 1.48

                              Wish I could cut and paste part of the spreadsheet here to show the math to see why we differ. I'll post more details of one game we differ to what is going on.

                              Thanks for all your hard work!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by GOLDENGREEK View Post
                                top plays ( 3-0 )

                                cal
                                oklahoma
                                ole miss
                                north car
                                bost coll
                                tenn
                                fl st


                                2-0

                                org st
                                flor
                                ohio st
                                iowa
                                texas
                                wisky
                                Are these also NOT in confliction with the Running Dog System? And are they also factored in with agreement to the running dog system?
                                "CFB YTD: 5-8-1 -16.2"

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