Which is the better Football program?

[frankb03]

They are loaded, but that might have the toughest schedule EVER...just because they may lose 2 games doesn't mean they aren't a great team.

You're kidding? They way NCAA football operates if they lose 2 games they won't get a sniff of a BCS game let alone a shot at the national championship.

USC probably has been the greatest team over the past years. They've probably sent more players to the NFL. In the end it doesn't mean shit unless you first, win the national championship or second, win a BCS bowl game.

[KazDog]

To be honest. I think I offer a fair unbiased opinion on college football. Growing up on LI, NY college football isn't very popular. We didn't have any local teams to root. I don't root for any college team. I call it as I see it. I'm not influenced by my allegiance to "my" team or conference.

If OK played for a mid-level conference over the past few years they wouldn't get the bowl invites they've received. They really haven't been that worthy the past few seasons.

Good call Frank....

KAZ

[frankb03]

I don't need to defend facts.....I posted facts about Fresno St. backed by a CBSsportsline writer. Go pound sand bone brain.

You can't argue with fanatical college football fans. They're irrational.

[LVJimmy]

You're kidding? They way NCAA football operates if they lose 2 games they won't get a sniff of a BCS game let alone a shot at the national championship.

USC probably has been the greatest team over the past years. They've probably sent more players to the NFL. In the end it doesn't mean shit unless you first, win the national championship or second, win a BCS bowl game.

You made the pt basically stating they aren't a great team unless they win it all...sorry, with that schedule, that's a wrong statement.

[LVJimmy]

To be honest. I think I offer a fair unbiased opinion on college football. Growing up on LI, NY college football isn't very popular. We didn't have any local teams to root. I don't root for any college team. I call it as I see it. I'm not influenced by my allegiance to "my" team or conference.

If OK played for a mid-level conference over the past few years they wouldn't get the bowl invites they've received. They really haven't been that worthy the past few seasons.

Um, didn't they win the Big 12, an automatic BCS game conf.

[LVJimmy]

I don't need to defend facts.....I posted facts about Fresno St. backed by a CBSsportsline writer. Go pound sand bone brain.

One being 0 conf titles playing in the WAC...GIVE ME A BREAK

[frankb03]

Um, didn't they win the Big 12, an automatic BCS game conf.

That's exactly my point. The BCS system is a joke. No one can argue that point.

Per USA Today OK played the 44th toughest schedule. I'm not impressed.

[frankb03]

You made the pt basically stating they aren't a great team unless they win it all...sorry, with that schedule, that's a wrong statement.

Jimmy, I'm sorry, I disagree. Even with that schedule with 2 loses they won't sniff a major bowl or a national championship. The way the system work fans don't call 9-3 or 10-2 teams "great".

[LVJimmy]

That's exactly my point. The BCS system is a joke. No one can argue that point.

Per USA Today OK played the 44th toughest schedule. I'm not impressed.

That's not the pt of this post though...we're not debating whether or not the BCS is a joke...the debate (which I actually can't believe I'm actually wasting my time on) is who has the better football program.

[MtrCtyPimp]

Oklahoma would chew up Fresno and spit them out.........Oklahoma top 10 national program, I dont even think Fresno is top 10 west coast. JMO

PEACE

[KazDog]

One being 0 conf titles playing in the WAC...GIVE ME A BREAK

Give me a break. What do Conference titles mean? They don't mean shit? Win when it counts, in the bowl game....

[LVJimmy]

Jimmy, I'm sorry, I disagree. Even with that schedule with 2 loses they won't sniff a major bowl or a national championship. The way the system work fans don't call 9-3 or 10-2 teams "great".

With 2 losses this year, I think they possibly could get a "sniff," but not likely. And just because fans say something, doesn't mean it's necessarily true.

[KazDog]

That's not the pt of this post though...we're not debating whether or not the BCS is a joke...the debate (which I actually can't believe I'm actually wasting my time on) is who has the better football program.

Only KB is arguing that. Let's not be stupid, OU has the recruits and talent to win and has won. Have they done it lately? NO. FUCK NO. The have won less with more. Sorry you can't understand that logic Jimmy.

By your logic, Notre Dame is a much better team than OU. Because they have a much more storied team and have many more championships. What have you done for me lately OU? You haven't done shit,....PERIOD

[LVJimmy]

Give me a break. What do Conference titles mean? They don't mean shit? Win when it counts, in the bowl game....

REALLY?

SO BOWL GAME WINS COUNT MORE THAN CONF TITLES

HAHA, IF FOR NO OTHER REASON, ASK THE BCS CONF WINNERS HOW MUCH THEY GET TO GO PLAY IN THE FIESTA BOWL VS. THE HUMANITARIAN BOWL

DO YOU THINK OKLA WOULD'VE CHOSEN TO LOSE THE BIG 12 TITLE GAME AND WIN THE COTTON BOWL OR WHAT THEY DID, WIN THE BIG 12 AND LOSE THE FIESTA BOWL?

SORRY MAN, YOUR ARGUMENT GETS WORSE AS THIS THREAD CONTINUES.

[KazDog]

REALLY?

SO BOWL GAME WINS COUNT MORE THAN CONF TITLES

HAHA, IF FOR NO OTHER REASON, ASK THE BCS CONF WINNERS HOW MUCH THEY GET TO GO PLAY IN THE FIESTA BOWL VS. THE HUMANITARIAN BOWL

DO YOU THINK OKLA WOULD'VE CHOSEN TO LOSE THE BIG 12 TITLE GAME AND WIN THE COTTON BOWL OR WHAT THEY DID, WIN THE BIG 12 AND LOSE THE FIESTA BOWL?

SORRY MAN, YOUR ARGUMENT GETS WORSE AS THIS THREAD CONTINUES.

Whatever Jimmy. How much does a team get for winning a conference title? How many teams go down in history as the best conference title winner? Get a clue....

Conference titles don't mean shit. National titles and winning the BSC means a hell of a lot more.....