Which is the better Football program?

[garth]

Programs like OK and Notre Dame are overrated. Every year because of their history they're ranked higher than they should. Some of the programs with storied histories have done shit the last 10+ years.

Last I checked, OU has a national title and 5 or 6 conference titles in the last 10 years.

[kbsooner21]

Last I checked, OU has a national title and 5 or 6 conference titles in the last 10 years.

Geez Garth you dumbass, if you don't win the national title, you are considered a disappointment!!!

[garth]

Geez Garth you dumbass, if you don't win the national title, you are considered a disappointment!!!

You mean if the team doesn't win a national title every year? Yeah, the Sooners have definitely underachieved.
I'm thinking that this is the Bulldogs' year to make a run at the championship.

[kbsooner21]

KazDog
Fresno St National Champs
Last Activity: Today 05:23 PM
Searching For any tidbit I can find to support my argument @ 05:23 PM



Going to have to be one hell of a search

[wayne1218]

kb, You watching E60 on ESPN with Moss and his truck team?

[frankb03]

Last I checked, OU has a national title and 5 or 6 conference titles in the last 10 years.

Understood! The point I was trying to make is almost every year the pre-season polls have these 'perennial' power programs ranked very high. It seems almost every year some of these teams disappoint. Last years, Michigan team is a perfect example.

Same thing applies with in season polls. Unless they lose 3 or more games these same teams hardly drop from the top-25 because of their history.

I'm not impressed with 5 or 6 conference titles the past 10 years. They've also lost 4 or their last 5 bowl games. Not good for a supposedly 'POWER'.

[Three Jack]

I have to admit...when I saw the original thread, I thought it was a joke. I am surprised that this has been debated as much as it has been. IMO, Frsno St doesn't hold a candle to the OU program. Using bowl games as a measuring stick isn't a fair comparison. All I needed to see is that Fresno is 3-12 against ranked opponents that last 6 yrs. 3-12!

Better yet, 0-6 the last 2 years and 0-7 the last 3. I think OU is a tad overrated but this is comparing apples and oranges. Fresno is a solid team but to compare to OU is pretty funny.

[wayne1218]

I have to admit...when I saw the original thread, I thought it was a joke. I am surprised that this has been debated as much as it has been. IMO, Frsno St doesn't hold a candle to the OU program. Using bowl games as a measuring stick isn't a fair comparison. All I needed to see is that Fresno is 3-12 against ranked opponents that last 6 yrs. 3-12!

Better yet, 0-6 the last 2 years and 0-7 the last 3. I think OU is a tad overrated but this is comparing apples and oranges. Fresno is a solid team but to compare to OU is pretty funny.

I agree. Are we really debating this? lol

[LVJimmy]

Ok, I may be the biggest pessimist on this board, and I know there are some big Homers on here as well, BUT, IS THIS THREAD SERIOUS?

[GOLDENGREEK]

Are people voting a particular way just to piss KB off?

I dont understand this . OU is and has always been a better program.

[wayne1218]

Are people voting a particular way just to piss KB off?

Yes. I don't think we have anybody here that stupid!

[LVJimmy]

Yes. I don't think we have anybody here that stupid!

Stupid, NO

Homeristic, YES...if Kaz really can debate this without thinking he has problems, then...

[KazDog]

First of all. It was KB that started this thread. PERIOD. And it was KB that needed affirmation from the guys on this site that his amazing OU team, has a better program than Fresno St. It's rather pathetic and of course you've all sided with him.

2nd. Are they really that much better? Fresno St has DONE MORE WITH LESS and OU has DONE LESS WITH MORE. That's the bottom line. You can try and say it any way you like, but that's just a fact. THEY ARE BOWL LOSERS THE LAST TWO YEARS. PERIOD. To completely inferior teams with a lot less talent. I CALL THAT UNDERACHIEVING.

DISPUTE THAT IF YOU CAN....They are also 1-4 their last 5 bowl games. I'D CALL THAT UNDERACHIEVING AS WELL.

Wayne says Bowls don't matter to him. Then why fucking play them? Get rid of all the bowls. Unfortunately, they do matter cuz no one remembers what teams have done in the regular season. You either win your bowl game or you do not....

And lastly. Please tell me why did the BIG BAD KANSAS ST football team pull out of playing Fresno St this year AT HOME? I'll just wait for that answer. We've kicked their ass twice. Unfortunately for the Fresno's of the world, they rarely get an opportunity to shine on the national stage. Hence, they don't get the kind of recruits that an OU does.

They've beaten plenty of quality teams. Without even looking, Kansas St, Oregon, #1 at the time Oregon St, USC, UCLA, Georgia Tech, Wisconsin, Arizona, Cal, BYU, Colorado....

I'm NOT debating whether Fresno St has a better program. We have done well with what we got....

KAZ

[LVJimmy]

"THEY ARE BOWL LOSERS THE LAST TWO YEARS. PERIOD. To completely inferior teams with a lot less talent. I CALL THAT UNDERACHIEVING."

WVU was not completely inferior w/less talent...sorry to break it to ya.

[KazDog]

"THEY ARE BOWL LOSERS THE LAST TWO YEARS. PERIOD. To completely inferior teams with a lot less talent. I CALL THAT UNDERACHIEVING."

WVU was not completely inferior w/less talent...sorry to break it to ya.

They got their ASSES kicked 48-28.....PERIOD. Sorry to break it to ya.

Maybe WV wasn't an inferior team, but they sure made OU look inferior.....

KAZ