Which is the better Football program?

[frankb03]

With 2 losses this year, I think they possibly could get a "sniff," but not likely. And just because fans say something, doesn't mean it's necessarily true.

with 2 regular season loses they won't win their conference.

[LVJimmy]

Whatever Jimmy. How much does a team get for winning a conference title? How many teams go down in history as the best conference title winner? Get a clue....

Conference titles don't mean shit. National titles and winning the BSC means a hell of a lot more.....

A TEAM GETS A BCS GAME WHICH MEANS MILLIONS...R U LOST?

HOW MANY TEAMS GO DOWN IN HISTORY FOR WINNING THE HUMANITARIAN BOWL?

[LVJimmy]

with 2 regular season loses they won't win their conference.

Hmm, wasn't Nebraska in the title game even though they didn't win their conf...I'm sure there were a few others in the BCS-era.

[frankb03]

REALLY?

SO BOWL GAME WINS COUNT MORE THAN CONF TITLES

Of course they do. That's the same as saying a division title in the NFL is more important than winning a playoff game.

Aside from their fans, IMO more people will remember OK was blown out in their bowl game then the fact they won their conference. Once again. I'm not a fan of any college football team. My recollection of OK is they were blown out last year and lost the previous year to BSU. I have no idea where they finished within their conference.

[LVJimmy]

Of course they do. That's the same as saying a division title in the NFL is more important than winning a playoff game.

Aside from their fans, IMO more people will remember OK was blown out in their bowl game then the fact they won their conference. Once again. I'm not a fan of any college football team. My recollection of OK is they were blown out last year and lost the previous year to BSU. I have no idea where they finished within their conference.

IF YOU WIN A PLAYOFF GAME, YOU ADVANCE...IN CFB, IT'S 1 GAME...TO COMPARE THE 2 MAKES 0 SENSE IMO BECAUSE CFB DOESN'T HAVE A PLAYOFF

[frankb03]

IF YOU WIN A PLAYOFF GAME, YOU ADVANCE...IN CFB, IT'S 1 GAME...TO COMPARE THE 2 MAKES 0 SENSE IMO BECAUSE CFB DOESN'T HAVE A PLAYOFF

I understand your point. But IMO it's meaningless if you win your conference title but get blown out in your BCS bowl game. Seriously, unless you're a fan of the team that wins your conference, if you lose your bowl game you're not even a consideration. OK was ranked #8 after their bowl game. Where were they ranked prior to the game?

I don't know the answer to the question. The point is after they lost no one really cares they won their conference title.

[KazDog]

Hmm, wasn't Nebraska in the title game even though they didn't win their conf...I'm sure there were a few others in the BCS-era.

Notre Dame many times.....the point is, what do conference titles mean? Nothing. Yes, some need them to get to the BCS, and some don't, but what matters in terms of recognition is what you do in your bowl game, not whether you won the conference championship. Conference title doesn't count for shit unless you win your bowl game. Are you lost?

[KazDog]

Hmm, wasn't Nebraska in the title game even though they didn't win their conf...I'm sure there were a few others in the BCS-era.

You contradict yourself. Yes, Nebraska was in the title game as was Notre Dame without winning the conference title, basically rendering a conference title useless.....

[frankb03]

IF YOU WIN A PLAYOFF GAME, YOU ADVANCE...IN CFB, IT'S 1 GAME...TO COMPARE THE 2 MAKES 0 SENSE IMO BECAUSE CFB DOESN'T HAVE A PLAYOFF

I'd love to continue this debate but I'm tired. I gotta get to bed. Have a good night.

[KazDog]

I understand your point. But IMO it's meaningless if you win your conference title but get blown out in your BCS bowl game. Seriously, unless you're a fan of the team that wins your conference, if you lose your bowl game you're not even a consideration. OK was ranked #8 after their bowl game. Where were they ranked prior to the game?

I don't know the answer to the question. The point is after they lost no one really cares they won their conference title.

Right on the money Frank!

[LVJimmy]

You contradict yourself. Yes, Nebraska was in the title game as was Notre Dame without winning the conference title, basically rendering a conference title useless.....

IF YOU THINK MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IS USELESS, THEN YOU HAVE ISSUES

[LVJimmy]

Notre Dame many times.....the point is, what do conference titles mean? Nothing. Yes, some need them to get to the BCS, and some don't, but what matters in terms of recognition is what you do in your bowl game, not whether you won the conference championship. Conference title doesn't count for shit unless you win your bowl game. Are you lost?

WHO CARES WHO WON THE WEEDEATER BOWL LAST YEAR?

UNLESS YOU'RE IN A BCS GAME, 95% OF CFB FANS DON'T REMEMBER BOWL OUTCOMES. AND A LOT DON'T EVEN REMEMBER THOSE GAMES, WIN OR LOSE.

[frankb03]

Notre Dame many times.....the point is, what do conference titles mean? Nothing. Yes, some need them to get to the BCS, and some don't, but what matters in terms of recognition is what you do in your bowl game, not whether you won the conference championship. Conference title doesn't count for shit unless you win your bowl game. Are you lost?

Agreed! To the best of my knowledge no team has been crowned champ after losing their bowl game. Aside from playing in the BCS championship game most losing bowl team sink in the polls.

Going into their bowl game OK was ranked 3rd. They finished 8th. Saying bowl result are meaningless is naive.

[LVJimmy]

To be honest, who cares about any of the bowl games unless you're in the BCS title game and/or unless you're a fan of the team in a bowl game.

[LVJimmy]

Agreed! To the best of my knowledge no team has been crowned champ after losing their bowl game. Aside from playing in the BCS championship game most losing bowl team sink in the polls.

Going into their bowl game OK was ranked 3rd. They finished 8th. Saying bowl result are meaningless is naive.

Again, unless you finish 1st, WHY DO FINAL RANKINGS MATTER.

WHO CARES WHO FINISHED 3RD, 4TH, 5TH, ETC.