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  • #76
    By J. Darin Darst
    CBSSports.com Staff Writer

    The numbers at Fresno State are mind boggling.

    Eight bowl games in the past nine years.

    Second-most wins over BCS conferences this decade than any other non-BCS school with 12.

    Conference titles this decade ... Zero.

    Pat Hill has an "any team, anytime, anywhere" attitude, but recently it hasn't transformed into a WAC championship.

    "That's our niche. Our niche in life is being the team that takes on all comers," said Hill, who is in his 12th season at the school. "A schedule like that makes us peak early, and it's affected us in WAC play, but this conference is awful good and the last two years proved that in Boise State and Hawaii making it undefeated and going to a BCS bowl."

    In 2005 the Bulldogs had high expectations entering the season, only to lose to Oregon by three and Southern California 50-42. Things fell apart after the loss to the Trojans, with defeats to Nevada, Louisiana Tech and Tulsa in the bowl game.

    The Bulldogs' niche will continue in 2008 as Fresno plays at Rutgers (Sept. 1), host Wisconsin (Sept. 13) and travel to UCLA (Sept. 27) before jumping into WAC play. The Rutgers game was supposed to be a matchup with Kansas State, but the Wildcats bought out of the game.

    Most would say Hill is nuts to schedule teams like that every year, but there is a master plan to the madness.
    All-WAC

    "We recruit mainly in the state of California. We compete with the Pac-10, WAC and Mountain West schools," added Hill. "Everybody comes into California to recruit and we needed a point of difference. One of ours is not only do you play in the WAC, you are going to play in a non-league schedule that's going to give you a chance for national exposure, a chance to play the best teams in the country and a chance to play on national TV."

    And that's just what Hill has done, making Fresno a big-time program not only in the WAC, but in the nation.

    "This is the reason why I wanted to go to Fresno State," said sophomore fullback Vince Pascoe. "You get the chance to play the big teams, the big schedule, and who knows what's going to happen. I think it will be pretty exciting."

    Things should be dazzling with 10 starters back on offense on a team that averaged 419.5 yards and 32.8 points per game, making Fresno State the favorite to win the conference title and head back to another bowl game.

    And while most of the conference is struggling with quarterback issues, Fresno welcomes back Tom Brandstater, who threw for 2,654 yards and 15 touchdowns with only five interceptions. Bear Pascoe, who is the best tight end in the league, returns after finishing second on the team in receptions (45) and yards (553). Both wide receivers are back, as well as running back Ryan Matthews and four starters on the offensive line.

    "Our expectations are always high," added Hill. "The demands within our building and the demands the players put on each other are very high. The expectation to win is very, very important."

    Fresno wouldn't have it any other way.
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    • #77
      Originally posted by KazDog
      They got their ASSES kicked 48-28.....PERIOD. Sorry to break it to ya.

      Maybe WV wasn't an inferior team, but they sure made OU look inferior.....

      KAZ
      Of course they did...that isn't the debate...you said WVU was inferior and you are wrong, that's all.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by KazDog
        By J. Darin Darst
        CBSSports.com Staff Writer

        The numbers at Fresno State are mind boggling.

        Eight bowl games in the past nine years.

        Second-most wins over BCS conferences this decade than any other non-BCS school with 12.

        Conference titles this decade ... Zero.

        Pat Hill has an "any team, anytime, anywhere" attitude, but recently it hasn't transformed into a WAC championship.

        "That's our niche. Our niche in life is being the team that takes on all comers," said Hill, who is in his 12th season at the school. "A schedule like that makes us peak early, and it's affected us in WAC play, but this conference is awful good and the last two years proved that in Boise State and Hawaii making it undefeated and going to a BCS bowl."

        In 2005 the Bulldogs had high expectations entering the season, only to lose to Oregon by three and Southern California 50-42. Things fell apart after the loss to the Trojans, with defeats to Nevada, Louisiana Tech and Tulsa in the bowl game.

        The Bulldogs' niche will continue in 2008 as Fresno plays at Rutgers (Sept. 1), host Wisconsin (Sept. 13) and travel to UCLA (Sept. 27) before jumping into WAC play. The Rutgers game was supposed to be a matchup with Kansas State, but the Wildcats bought out of the game.

        Most would say Hill is nuts to schedule teams like that every year, but there is a master plan to the madness.
        All-WAC

        "We recruit mainly in the state of California. We compete with the Pac-10, WAC and Mountain West schools," added Hill. "Everybody comes into California to recruit and we needed a point of difference. One of ours is not only do you play in the WAC, you are going to play in a non-league schedule that's going to give you a chance for national exposure, a chance to play the best teams in the country and a chance to play on national TV."

        And that's just what Hill has done, making Fresno a big-time program not only in the WAC, but in the nation.

        "This is the reason why I wanted to go to Fresno State," said sophomore fullback Vince Pascoe. "You get the chance to play the big teams, the big schedule, and who knows what's going to happen. I think it will be pretty exciting."

        Things should be dazzling with 10 starters back on offense on a team that averaged 419.5 yards and 32.8 points per game, making Fresno State the favorite to win the conference title and head back to another bowl game.

        And while most of the conference is struggling with quarterback issues, Fresno welcomes back Tom Brandstater, who threw for 2,654 yards and 15 touchdowns with only five interceptions. Bear Pascoe, who is the best tight end in the league, returns after finishing second on the team in receptions (45) and yards (553). Both wide receivers are back, as well as running back Ryan Matthews and four starters on the offensive line.

        "Our expectations are always high," added Hill. "The demands within our building and the demands the players put on each other are very high. The expectation to win is very, very important."

        Fresno wouldn't have it any other way.
        That doesn't help your argument...lol.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by KazDog
          [B]

          Wayne says Bowls don't matter to him. Then why fucking play them? Get rid of all the bowls. Unfortunately, they do matter cuz no one remembers what teams have done in the regular season. You either win your bowl game or you do not....



          KAZ

          I don't think they should play 50 bowls. That is also Kaz. Nobody remembers who won the liberty, pacific, or toilet bowl unless their team was in it.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by KazDog
            First of all. It was KB that started this thread. PERIOD. And it was KB that needed affirmation from the guys on this site that his amazing OU team, has a better program than Fresno St. It's rather pathetic and of course you've all sided with him.

            2nd. Are they really that much better? Fresno St has DONE MORE WITH LESS and OU has DONE LESS WITH MORE. That's the bottom line. You can try and say it any way you like, but that's just a fact. THEY ARE BOWL LOSERS THE LAST TWO YEARS. PERIOD. To completely inferior teams with a lot less talent. I CALL THAT UNDERACHIEVING.

            DISPUTE THAT IF YOU CAN....They are also 1-4 their last 5 bowl games. I'D CALL THAT UNDERACHIEVING AS WELL.

            Wayne says Bowls don't matter to him. Then why fucking play them? Get rid of all the bowls. Unfortunately, they do matter cuz no one remembers what teams have done in the regular season. You either win your bowl game or you do not....

            And lastly. Please tell me why did the BIG BAD KANSAS ST football team pull out of playing Fresno St this year AT HOME? I'll just wait for that answer. We've kicked their ass twice. Unfortunately for the Fresno's of the world, they rarely get an opportunity to shine on the national stage. Hence, they don't get the kind of recruits that an OU does.

            They've beaten plenty of quality teams. Without even looking, Kansas St, Oregon, #1 at the time Oregon St, USC, UCLA, Georgia Tech, Wisconsin, Arizona, Cal, BYU, Colorado....

            I'm NOT debating whether Fresno St has a better program. We have done well with what we got....

            KAZ
            You are laughable

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            • #81
              Originally posted by KazDog
              First of all. It was KB that started this thread. PERIOD. And it was KB that needed affirmation from the guys on this site that his amazing OU team, has a better program than Fresno St. It's rather pathetic and of course you've all sided with him.


              Like I needed this thread to tell me what I already know

              Point of this thread was to show exactly how big of a jackass you really are and for you to pop up and continually try and defend yourself even furthers my point. Excellent job man

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              • #82
                Originally posted by garth
                I'm thinking that this is the Bulldogs' year to make a run at the championship.
                My post will prove it's point after season end. GA Bulldogs won't be in the running for a national title.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by GOLDENGREEK
                  Are people voting a particular way just to piss KB off?
                  I think it's Doc voting again and again

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by wayne1218
                    To me, Bowl games don't mean shit really. There are 50 of them and a (6-6) record gets you in one of them. If we are talking about BCS Bowl Games, i'll listen!
                    I agree! The majority of the bowls don't mean shit. However, because of OK storied history and playing in a BCS conference their recent poor performance speaks volumes. It speaks of the major conference being overrated by the pollsters.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by frankb03
                      I agree! The majority of the bowls don't mean shit. However, because of OK storied history and playing in a BCS conference their recent poor performance speaks volumes. It speaks of the major conference being overrated by the pollsters.
                      Who should have went and played before them Frank?

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by kbsooner21
                        Who should have went and played before them Frank?
                        Honestly I can't answer that. But their performance on the field proves they didn't belong. They were humiliated by W Va.
                        The BCS bowl system is a fucking joke. Too many teams get invited to major bowls that really aren't deserving.

                        Leaving OK out of my above comment you really can't disagree with the statement. The BCS system favors all the older major conferences.

                        BTW didn't Boise St beat OK two seasons ago? A game that many said BSU had zero chance in winning. BSU was finally going to be served a dose of reality. It was supposed to prove they were a 2nd rate team in a 2nd rate conference and didn't belong with the 'big boys'. Guess what? They shut up the so called experts.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by kbsooner21


                          Like I needed this thread to tell me what I already know

                          Point of this thread was to show exactly how big of a jackass you really are and for you to pop up and continually try and defend yourself even furthers my point. Excellent job man
                          Your need of affirmation of your OU team is really pathetic. Thanks for proving my point wittle kb.
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                          I'm just here so I won't get fined....

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by frankb03
                            My post will prove it's point after season end. GA Bulldogs won't be in the running for a national title.
                            They are loaded, but that might have the toughest schedule EVER...just because they may lose 2 games doesn't mean they aren't a great team.

                            @ South Carolina
                            @ ASU
                            Tennessee
                            UF
                            @ LSU
                            @ AUBURN

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                            • #89
                              I don't need to defend facts.....I posted facts about Fresno St. backed by a CBSsportsline writer. Go pound sand bone brain.
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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by kbsooner21
                                Who should have went and played before them Frank?
                                To be honest. I think I offer a fair unbiased opinion on college football. Growing up on LI, NY college football isn't very popular. We didn't have any local teams to root. I don't root for any college team. I call it as I see it. I'm not influenced by my allegiance to "my" team or conference.

                                If OK played for a mid-level conference over the past few years they wouldn't get the bowl invites they've received. They really haven't been that worthy the past few seasons.

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