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  • To All Haters of DA U! READ THIS!!

    Finally someone that isnt pointing the FINGER at Miami.. Read it and keep hating.. This article was written by Stewart Mandel of Sports Illustrated..

    Not 'Thug U'
    Miami's brawl was bad, but don't attack the program

    I thought I'd said my piece about the Miami-FIU brawl in a blog entry I posted Monday afternoon. I said it was an embarrassment to college football. I said that the one-game suspensions for most of the Hurricanes players weren't nearly stiff enough. And I said it's deplorable that some members of the Miami community had the audacity to rationalize the players' behavior.

    I stand by everything I said then. But now, I'm about to do something that is apparently considered sacrilege amongst the college football establishment: I am going to defend the University of Miami football program.

    For me, the incident itself wasn't nearly as stunning as what I've watched transpire in the days since: prominent media figures calling for Miami to receive the death penalty, fans writing in to my blog and Mailbag calling the Hurricanes "a gang of criminals" and "a penal-league team," repeated use of the phrase "Thug U."

    Reading and listening to such virulent backlash, you would think Miami is the only program in the country that's ever experienced disciplinary problems.

    Look, what happened at the Orange Bowl on Saturday night was horrific; no one can deny that. It's one thing to defend your scrawny holder after he's just been jumped on by the other team; it's another thing entirely to empty the bench, swing helmets, stomp on people, etc. But to use the incident as Exhibit A in the case for Miami being "Thug U" is not only unfair, it's downright hypocritical unless you know for a fact that your own favorite program is 100 percent skeleton-free.

    You might not believe this -- you might not want to believe this -- but over the past decade, Miami has had fewer player arrests or NCAA-related incidents than almost any other major program in the country. Miami has not had 20-plus incidents involving shoplifting, assault, gun charges and failed drug tests over the past two years, as Tennessee has. Miami has not had to dismiss a star player for earning money through a phony job, as Oklahoma has. Miami has not had a star linebacker accused of sexual assault on the eve of its bowl game as Florida State did last year. And Miami's most recent Academic Progress Rate (956) placed it in the top 20 to 30 percent of all Division I football programs.

    To the Miami lynch mob, however, none of this seems nearly as relevant as, say, its tawdry sportsmanship in a Cotton Bowl played 15 years ago, or the fact that the 'Canes showed up to a Fiesta Bowl two decades ago wearing army fatigues, or an NCAA Pell grant scandal that occurred more than a decade ago. As one major newspaper put it this week: "Miami has been a dysfunctional program for over two decades with only slight detours into decorum. All the talk of a cleaned-up program, of a sharper image, is just hot air. The brawl illustrates that."

    What I've learned more than anything this week is that there is a deep, deep cultural divide between Miami and mainstream college football. Miami's program is not like everybody else's. Whereas schools like Alabama and Michigan pride themselves on traditions built over 100 or more years, Miami's "tradition" sprouted up virtually overnight. When I go to a game at a Florida or an Auburn, I see gray-haired boosters in sweaters and women in sundresses tailgating on a picturesque patch of campus. When I go to a Miami game, I see guys in jerseys and girls in tank tops tailgating on a muddy grass field next to a decrepit stadium in one of the worst neighborhoods in Miami. Is it any wonder the former is so adamantly unaccepting of the latter?

    The fact is, a large part of "The U's" identity derives from its "street" roots under Howard Schnellenberger, who built a powerhouse by not only recruiting the kind of athletes who grew up with little to no discipline but also, along with successors Jimmy Johnson and Dennis Erickson, encouraged their brash, often over-the-top showmanship that marked so many of Miami's great teams in the '80s and early '90s. While the type of individuals Miami recruits has changed, that freewheeling style has remained, annoying and offending college football's more buttoned-down establishment. For the most part, however, it's been fairly harmless stuff -- touchdown dances, taunting, stomping on the Louisville logo, etc.

    What happened Saturday night was not harmless, and Miami deserves to be harshly criticized because of it. Both the school and the ACC deserve even harsher criticism for administering such laughable punishments. But come on -- this almost militant backlash has gone way too far. I believe Larry Coker when he says, "We have not just good kids, but great kids here," because most programs I cover have predominantly good kids (along with a few inevitable bad apples), and my interactions over the years with Miami's players have given me no reason to believe they're any different.

    Obviously, that doesn't change the fact that there's definitely a discipline problem on that team right now. Coker, AD Paul Dee and president Donna Shalala need to take a good, hard look and ask themselves: Why is that? In the meantime, I'd encourage the rest of us to also take a good, hard look at something as well. With all the various disciplinary incidents that occur around the country season after season, why such animosity toward this one program in particular?

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    MY MEAT IN THE HOT DESERT.......

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    • #3
      The guy who wrote that didnt graduate from DA U, cause the grammar is to good

      There still no class bums T, just like them fighting after LSU handed them there ass, just like them coming into the Cards house and trying to intimdate us by jumping on our logo.

      THUG U is a fitting description of Miami. Thats my opinion, and i dont begrudge you for still liking and supporting your team, thats what fans do
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      • #4
        Originally posted by bover1
        Once a Hurricon, always a Hurricon!

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        • #5
          Michigan would smoke DA U in a fist fight also....

          DA U = DUI.......suspicious similarities

          PEACE

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          • #6
            Originally posted by wayne1218
            Once a Hurricon, always a Hurricon!
            hurriCON.......THATS 2 FUNNY...BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
            Last edited by bover1; 10-18-2006, 07:19 PM.
            MY MEAT IN THE HOT DESERT.......

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jcindaville
              The guy who wrote that didnt graduate from DA U, cause the grammar is to good

              There still no class bums T, just like them fighting after LSU handed them there ass, just like them coming into the Cards house and trying to intimdate us by jumping on our logo.

              THUG U is a fitting description of Miami. Thats my opinion, and i dont begrudge you for still liking and supporting your team, thats what fans do
              Yeah they are bums huh?? What do you say about this??

              but over the past decade, Miami has had fewer player arrests or NCAA-related incidents than almost any other major program in the country. Miami has not had 20-plus incidents involving shoplifting, assault, gun charges and failed drug tests over the past two years, as Tennessee has. Miami has not had to dismiss a star player for earning money through a phony job, as Oklahoma has. Miami has not had a star linebacker accused of sexual assault on the eve of its bowl game as Florida State did last year. And Miami's most recent Academic Progress Rate (956) placed it in the top 20 to 30 percent of all Division I football programs.

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              • #8
                hey t-bag...did u go 2 thug u ? i dont think so... probly a reatard community college........no one here gives a fuck about ...the yanks ,cowboys or the u ...so piss off with you trying 2 defend your gay team's....
                Last edited by bover1; 10-18-2006, 07:28 PM.
                MY MEAT IN THE HOT DESERT.......

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TMAC951
                  Yeah they are bums huh?? What do you say about this??

                  but over the past decade, Miami has had fewer player arrests or NCAA-related incidents than almost any other major program in the country. Miami has not had 20-plus incidents involving shoplifting, assault, gun charges and failed drug tests over the past two years, as Tennessee has. Miami has not had to dismiss a star player for earning money through a phony job, as Oklahoma has. Miami has not had a star linebacker accused of sexual assault on the eve of its bowl game as Florida State did last year. And Miami's most recent Academic Progress Rate (956) placed it in the top 20 to 30 percent of all Division I football programs.
                  T, if your comparing yourself to Fl St your really in trouble. The only program worst than DA U is FL St. Im not going to bang on them or fight with you, i saw them live and in person stomp all over our logo, the whole team did it with the assistant coaches as well. My first thought was classless bums, and i still think that.

                  Thats what i think, no article will change that. I heard the President of DA U this morning on Mike and Mike, she's a fucking idiot and Mike Golick made her look like an idiot, and she is. ANYONE STOMPING ON A DEFENSLESS PLAYER SHOULD BE THROWN OFF THE TEAM. PERIOD, did that happen, no.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bover1
                    hey t-bag...did u go 2 thug u ? i dont think so... probly a reatard community college........no one here gives a fuck about ...the yanks ,cowboys or the u ...so piss off with you trying 2 defend your gay team's....
                    Why dont you go fuck some sheep or something cocknibbler?? Did I say anything to you about this?? Fuck no so go get your salad tossed by your lover Leinhart!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jcindaville
                      T, if your comparing yourself to Fl St your really in trouble. The only program worst than DA U is FL St. Im not going to bang on them or fight with you, i saw them live and in person stomp all over our logo, the whole team did it with the assistant coaches as well. My first thought was classless bums, and i still think that.

                      Thats what i think, no article will change that. I heard the President of DA U this morning on Mike and Mike, she's a fucking idiot and Mike Golick made her look like an idiot, and she is. ANYONE STOMPING ON A DEFENSLESS PLAYER SHOULD BE THROWN OFF THE TEAM. PERIOD, did that happen, no.
                      I heard that too and Golic was all over her shit. She is CLEARLY the dumbest fucken president in all of College Sports. Stomping a guy's head is different or not as bad as punching him??? WTF? Does she realize they where CLEATS!!!!

                      She should be fired ASAP for being as stupid and wrong as she clearly was!

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                      • #12
                        Still waiting for all this backlash towards FIU...why is it all directed at Miami? As far as stomping on logos, as I'm sure you know, Miami is not the only team to ever do that. You guys are still living in the past when Miami really had issues, but it hasn't been that way in a while. I wasn't a part of BC when the Clemson/SC brawl happened, and I know there was a portion of that fight that was a lot worse than this one, but I will almost guarantee that this much was not made of that brawl. A good portion of this haterade is due to the fact that it's Miami.

                        PS For those of you don't know, Miami is a really good school and tough to get into so claiming people that go there are idiots is wrong.
                        Last edited by LVJimmy; 10-18-2006, 08:10 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by wayne1218
                          I heard that too and Golic was all over her shit. She is CLEARLY the dumbest fucken president in all of College Sports. Stomping a guy's head is different or not as bad as punching him??? WTF? Does she realize they where CLEATS!!!!

                          She should be fired ASAP for being as stupid and wrong as she clearly was!
                          I thought the best part of the interview, the part that really made her sound like an idiot, when she said that at the end of pregame, it is ritual for the team to punt a ball in the air, catch it, and then the whole team to come together and jump up and down...and the logo just happened to be under where they were jumping...ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by LVJimmy
                            Still waiting for all this backlash towards FIU...why is it all directed at Miami? As far as stomping on logos, as I'm sure you know, Miami is not the only team to ever do that. You guys are still living in the past when Miami really had issues, but it hasn't been that way in a while. I wasn't a part of BC when the Clemson/SC brawl happened, and I know there was a portion of that fight that was a lot worse than this one, but I will almost gaurantee that this much was not made of that brawl. A good portion of this haterade is due to the fact that it's Miami.

                            PS For those of you don't know, Miami is a really good school and tough to get into so claiming people that go there are idiots is wrong.
                            Because FIU acted promply and kicked kids off the damn team. Did you here the Mike & Mike interview today? You should.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by LVJimmy
                              Still waiting for all this backlash towards FIU...why is it all directed at Miami? As far as stomping on logos, as I'm sure you know, Miami is not the only team to ever do that. You guys are still living in the past when Miami really had issues, but it hasn't been that way in a while. I wasn't a part of BC when the Clemson/SC brawl happened, and I know there was a portion of that fight that was a lot worse than this one, but I will almost guarantee that this much was not made of that brawl. A good portion of this haterade is due to the fact that it's Miami.

                              PS For those of you don't know, Miami is a really good school and tough to get into so claiming people that go there are idiots is wrong.
                              I agree with this post 110%.. Do I think that they was way too easy on Miami? Yes.. I personally think that they should cut BOTH schools off of football for the rest of the season..

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