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  • #46
    Laughable suspensions aren't nearly enough

    By Gene Wojciechowski
    ESPN.com


    Larry Coker? Fired.

    Lamar Thomas? Fired.

    The bench-clearing brawl resulted in 31 suspensions between the two schools.Anthony Reddick and Brandon Meriweather? Dismissed.

    The other 11 University of Miami players and 18 Florida International University players who took part in Saturday night's horrifying football gang warfare? Suspended for the remainder of the season.

    Miami's 35-0 "victory" against FIU? Nullified. Wiped off the books.

    Something has to change at Miami, beginning with the punishment. Atlantic Coast Conference commissioner John Swofford meant well when he initially issued a one-game suspension for all 13 UM players involved in this disaster area, but the penalty was laughable. It isn't a slap on the wrist; it's a soothing caress and manicure.

    "These suspensions send a clear and definitive message that this type of behavior will not be tolerated," said Swofford.

    No, they didn't. They sent a clear and definitive message that you miss only one game if you do what Reddick did, which was swing his five-pound helmet at FIU players like it was a medieval weapon. Had he connected with skull or flesh, he could have killed somebody. Then what would have the ACC done? Two-game suspensions?

    But, to their credit, the conference and UM came to their senses and announced late Monday afternoon that Reddick was suspended indefinitely. Indefinitely is better than one game, but not as good as gone forever.

    As for Coker, I think we can all agree he's a nice enough man, much in the same way a substitute teacher is nice enough. And like a substitute teacher, his players act as if he doesn't exist.

    "I do have a grip on this program," Coker has insisted. "Don't ever doubt that. Don't ever doubt that."

    Sorry, Larry, but your 11-Strikes-You're-Out policy has become Wanda Sykes-funny. Remember, this is the same Coker who recruited and signed Willie Williams, whose police record was longer than a goalpost upright. This is the same Coker who watched his team brawl with LSU players at last December's Peach Bowl, who watched his team stomp on the Louisville logo last month and who said he had no clue Saturday's brawl had escalated into fear-for-your-life status.

    If I'm UM President Donna Shalala, I thank Coker for his years of service and then drop-kick him out of Coral Gables. Rehire Butch Davis, one of the few Miami head coaches who actually knew what "zero tolerance" meant. Hell, see if The Rock is available. He has recent experience. Anybody is better than Coker, whose Vaseline grip is useless.

    Instead, the well-respected Shalala did nothing except issue the obligatory statement decrying the game's "embarrassing display of unsportsmanlike behavior." A Monday morning meeting with the executive committee of the school's board of trustees resulted in nothing more than an undeserving vote of confidence for Coker.

    Shalala doesn't get it. What happened midway through the third quarter of Saturday night's game at the dumpy Orange Bowl wasn't unsportsmanlike behavior. Twisting a running back's ankle at the bottom of a pile is unsportsmanlike behavior. Taunting an opponent after a score (a UM player did that too) is unsportsmanlike behavior. A single cheap shot when you don't think the ref is looking is unsportsmanlike behavior.

    What Reddick did with his helmet was so far beyond unsportsmanlike that you need Mapquest.com to chart it. It was criminal conduct. It was obscene. The stomping of an FIU player by Meriweather was only marginally less disturbing.

    Larry Coker says he's in complete control of his program.Shalala said she was "satisfied" with the ACC's penalties. If so, Shalala needs a refresher course on leadership. The melee, as one conference commissioner told me Monday, was "mob violence under the guise of intercollegiate athletics."

    A line was crossed Saturday night. Crossed, and cleared by a terrifying mile. What began as childish trash-talking soon became physical confrontation, then a series of escalating cheap shots, then street fighting. It reached nauseating critical mass with the sight of a 6-foot, 205-pound Division I-A athlete swinging a helmet at someone with the intent to injure.

    This wasn't a simple bruise mark for Miami and FIU. This was something more grotesque, something that made you question what kind of people these players were.

    FIU's players were just as despicable, and Strock is just as accountable. Your team, your watch, your responsibility. But this is the first time Strock's program has gone psycho. For Coker, it's one in a continuing series of embarrassments.

    Adding to the absurdity was Miami TV analyst Lamar Thomas, a former Hurricanes player, who tried to justify the melee as it unfolded (Thomas was relieved of his duties by Comcast Sports SouthEast early Monday evening).

    "Now, that's what I'm talking about," said Thomas, as he endorsed the fight on live TV. Moments later, he said, "I was about to go down the elevator to get into that thing."

    If I were UM athletic director Paul Dee (and I'm glad I'm not), I wouldn't let Thomas read the daily lunch menu over the school intercom system, much less let him see the working side of a microphone again.

    There is no justification for what happened Saturday evening. There is no right, just lots of wrong. That's why Shalala ought to offer to declare the score null and void. In essence, admit that the game itself ceased to exist once the brawl began. In its place was an aftermath, a mere shadow of itself.

    It would be an unprecedented gesture, but the proper one. Miami, which is trying to reach a bowl, wouldn't be credited for a tainted victory. After all, since when do you reward a team for humiliating itself?

    "I can promise you that this will never happen again," Strock told reporters.

    Maybe, but doubtful.

    But did you see who didn't make the same vow? Coker.

    Can you blame him?

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    • #47
      Originally posted by TMAC951
      Yeah I was pissed.. But that was just TO being TO.. He is cocky and he has the skills to back it up ON the field.. And in years past (other than this season of course) Miami is just cocky and they have the skills on the field to back it up..
      YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE!

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      • #48
        Originally posted by TheRook
        Its not just the "one bad incident" It's everything that goes along with it.

        They have not done one thing RIGHT IMO after this latest incident yet.

        There should have been criminal charges brought against two of those players on Miami at least.....and they aren't even kicked off the team.

        What kind of example does that set?

        How bout Coker using FIU players "wanting to be on our side" as the reason FIU started the fight instead of taking the blame as well.

        How bout the prez of Miami telling Mike and Mike in the Morning one thing about looking at the tape of the incident to address the people involved, but yet the day before in her news conference saying the exact OPPOSITE???

        It all adds up. This is just many reasons why Miami is on a serious downswing and won't change until some major changes are made.

        all im saying is there ALOT of schools that have the same problems...but it's not magnified as much as it is when miami does something wrong....and what coker said about fiu is probably true.

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        • #49
          The university of Miami SHOULD be held to a different and higher standard then FIU but FIU did more to help their credibility then Miami has done by FAR.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by JBC13
            i think talking crap is a part of sports these days.
            UNFORTUNATELY, It is part of sports. Not for the betterment of sports.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by JBC13
              does fsu florida do the same shit before games...yes....im sure the same goes with all major rivalries like ohio st michigan....talking shit and being cocky is a part of sports.
              JBC...the problem is this, in my mind...they stomp on the logo...fine, but what other tema in the country:

              Recruits a kid with 11 arrests including sexual assualt, before he graduates high school?
              Has a brawl like Miami/FIU did?
              Fights in a tunnel after a bowl game?
              Has a player shoot a gun at someone?

              And this is all we know about...and in the last 12 months!!!
              Three Jack's Record http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/sh...10#post1323910

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              • #52
                Originally posted by frankb03
                YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE!
                No doubt. I guarantee he HATED T.O. before he was signed. Now it was just T.O. being T.O.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by JBC13
                  all im saying is there ALOT of schools that have the same problems...but it's not magnified as much as it is when miami does something wrong....and what coker said about fiu is probably true.

                  LOL...I hear you and I agree to a point.

                  I guess we'll just have to judge that when the next brawl comes out.

                  But when you have a reputation like Miami...just like any other player or team or whatever with previous incidents....you are going to be looked closer at.

                  Rasheed Wallace for example....look how closely he was looked at for flagrant fouls etc compared to a lot of other people.

                  It's multiple times for Miami as a university....and that's why they are pointed out just that much harder.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Three Jack
                    JBC...the problem is this, in my mind...they stomp on the logo...fine, but what other tema in the country:

                    Recruits a kid with 11 arrests including sexual assualt, before he graduates high school?
                    Has a brawl like Miami/FIU did?
                    Fights in a tunnel after a bowl game?
                    Has a player shoot a gun at someone?

                    And this is all we know about...and in the last 12 months!!!
                    i agree with you...those incidents do make them look bad...i was refering to stompoing on the logo making them bums....other schools have problems just like miami.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by wayne1218
                      No doubt. I guarantee he HATED T.O. before he was signed. Now it was just T.O. being T.O.
                      I dont HATE anyone.. TO has always been a cocky little bastard.. I have never hated him.. Ive never disliked him.. Is there anything wrong with talking shit?? NOPE.. He talks the shit and he backs it up on the field.. Never hated him nor Have I ever hated ANYONE.. Never have and i never will.. Dont judge me because you dont know me.. Plain and simple//.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by JBC13
                        i agree with you...those incidents do make them look bad...i was refering to stompoing on the logo making them bums....other schools have problems just like miami.
                        I hear ya...other schools stomp and other schools have issues...but few, if any, to the extent and severity that Miami does.
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                        • #57
                          im just happy i can get on the computer and type....been throwing up all day, got some stomach virus or something.....finally feeling better wooohoooo

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by TMAC951
                            I dont HATE anyone.. .
                            T...c'mon...you don't hate UConnplayer....

                            Only joking...if you don't you should....
                            Three Jack's Record http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/sh...10#post1323910

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Three Jack
                              I hear ya...other schools stomp and other schools have issues...but few, if any, to the extent and severity that Miami does.
                              Once again it falls right back on Miami.. I guess if Bobby Bowden gets caught having sex with the captian of the football team or the head cheerleader its Miami's fault right??

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                              • #60
                                T, are you happy you re-stirred this pot tonight? And I am trying to watch my team get eliminated!
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