Clash over proposed Ground Zero mosque

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Pat Condell on Ground Zero mosque: \\\"Is it possible to be astonished, but not surprised?\\\"
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Pat Condell on Ground Zero mosque: "Is it possible to be astonished, but not surprised?" - Jihad Watch

[Jamaicanman]

Anyone read the Siena Coolege survey results about this?

New Yorkers oppose 61% to 26%.
New York City residents oppose 56% to 33%.
Suburban residents oppose 66% to 21%.
UpStaters oppose 64% to 21%.

[vols fan]

Anyone read the Siena Coolege survey results about this?

New Yorkers oppose 61% to 26%.
New York City residents oppose 56% to 33%.
Suburban residents oppose 66% to 21%.
UpStaters oppose 64% to 21%.

"WE THE PEOPLE" don't mean shit anymore.It's all what the government and these pussy ass politically correct bastards want us to do. The government OWNS us and some people here defend that

[wayne1218]

Fuck these carpet riders. You want 1, go back home and find 1.

Whats next ??

Gonna want to wrap a towel around the Statue of Liberty's head ??

Change Ozone Park to Osama Park ??

They want a Holiday ? I say we give them Feb. 29th and call it Porky Pig Day

Bedeet Bedeet Bedeet Thats All Mohammed !!

[Jamaicanman]

Greg Gutfeld To Open A Gay Bar Next To Ground Zero Mosque To Cater To “Islamic Gay Me

Greg Gutfeld To Open A Gay Bar Next To Ground Zero Mosque To Cater To “Islamic Gay Men”


No, this is not a joke. In fact, it is instead one of the most brilliant pieces of provocations in recent years. Greg Gutfeld from Fox News’ Red Eye announced today via his blog that he is actively speaking to investors and plans on opening a gay bar next to the controversial mosque being built near Ground Zero in New York. To make matters worse (better?) the bar will be specifically designed to cater to homosexuals of the Islamic faith. God, this is going to be an exciting block.

Here’s Gutfeld’s entire post which he will expand upon during tonight’s Red Eye:

“So, the Muslim investors championing the construction of the new mosque near Ground Zero claim it’s all about strengthening the relationship between the Muslim and non-Muslim world.

As an American, I believe they have every right to build the mosque – after all, if they buy the land and they follow the law – who can stop them?

Which is, why, in the spirit of outreach, I’ve decided to do the same thing.

I’m announcing tonight, that I am planning to build and open the first gay bar that caters not only to the west, but also Islamic gay men. To best express my sincere desire for dialogue, the bar will be situated next to the mosque Park51, in an available commercial space.

This is not a joke. I’ve already spoken to a number of investors, who have pledged their support in this bipartisan bid for understanding and tolerance.

As you know, the Muslim faith doesn’t look kindly upon homosexuality, which is why I’m building this bar. It is an effort to break down barriers and reduce deadly homophobia in the Islamic world.

The goal, however, is not simply to open a typical gay bar, but one friendly to men of Islamic faith. An entire floor, for example, will feature non-alcoholic drinks, since booze is forbidden by the faith. The bar will be open all day and night, to accommodate men who would rather keep their sexuality under wraps – but still want to dance.

Bottom line: I hope that the mosque owners will be as open to the bar, as I am to the new mosque. After all, the belief driving them to open up their center near Ground Zero, is no different than mine.

My place, however, will have better music.”
Hot Air contacted Andy Levy who reiterated that Gutfeld is serious. And, on his blog, Gutfeld points to the lack of humor in the post as further proof of his intentions (although, I think he’s under estimating himself. That last line about the music is hilarious).

I, personally, think it’s a brilliant idea. I absolutely abhor all of this anti-mosque nonsense currently going on in this country. It’s disgusting bigotry plain and simple. However, just because I support Muslim Americans in their fight against anti-Islam prejudice, doesn’t mean they shouldn’t get a few dings for their religion’s own prejudice against homosexuals. If you want to be treated fairly, you should treat others fairly as well. Still though, the only thing that would make this plan perfect would be if Gutfeld created a chain of gay bars and plopped them down next to churches and synagogues since it’s not like those religions have been super open-minded.

Insomniacs around the country already know that Red Eye is underrated genius. If Gutfeld goes through with his plan, hopefully it will be enough to finally thrust them into the satirical limelight with Stewart and Colbert like they deserve.

[kbsooner21]

This is fantastic news!

OMG

[Spark]

[Jamaicanman]

President Obama Supports 'Ground Zero Mosque

(Aug. 13) -- President Barack Obama gave a thumbs up today to a proposed Islamic community center and mosque that is slated to be built two blocks from the site of the 9/11 attacks in lower Manhattan.

"Let me be clear," Obama said at a White House dinner celebrating the Islamic holy month of Ramadan, "as a citizen, and as president, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as anyone else in this country.

"That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances," Obama said, according to CNN.


President Obama endorsed the building of a mosque at this site, which is located two blocks from the World Trade Center, during a speech at a White House dinner on Friday.
Obama's remarks drew a prompt response from Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y. "President Obama is wrong," said King, The Associated Press reported. "It is insensitive and uncaring for the Muslim community to build a mosque in the shadow of ground zero. While the Muslim community has the right to build the mosque, they are abusing that right by needlessly offending so many people who have suffered so much."

The proposed construction of the Cordoba House Islamic Center has divided U.S. politicians and the public. Obama's remarks follow a line of argument put forth by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who made an impassioned defense of the construction of the Islamic center in a speech delivered on Governor's Island.



Politicians such as Sarah Palin and Newt Gingrich have opposed the mosque, citing their view that the former site of the World Trade center is "hallowed ground" and that building Cordoba House in such close proximity is an affront to the memory of those who died in the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

"This is America," Obama declared today, "and our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakable. The principle that people of all faiths are welcome in this country, and will not be treated differently by their government, is essential to who we are. The writ of our founders must endure."

New York's Landmarks Preservation Commission has cleared the way for construction of the Islamic center, which will occupy the site that once housed a Burlington Coat Factory outlet store, but the state's governor, David Paterson, has suggested that other land might be made available to the developers of the project.

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[QUOTE=Jamaicanman;1827564](Aug. 13) -- President Barack Obama gave a thumbs up today to a proposed Islamic community center and mosque that is slated to be built two blocks from the site of the 9/11 attacks in lower Manhattan.

"Let me be clear," Obama said at a White House dinner celebrating the Islamic holy month of Ramadan, "as a citizen, and as president, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as anyone else in this country.

"That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances," Obama said, according to CNN.






What more could we expect from our Muslim President.


How about we build a Synagogue or a Church in the Mecca? Wonder how that would be recieved by the tolerant Islamists

[kbsooner21]

What more could we expect from our Muslim President.


How about we build a Synagogue or a Church in the Mecca? Wonder how that would be recieved by the tolerant Islamists

That ain't no shit bro!

Fuck that pisses me off

[baseballdave]

Wait a while and wait for vitterd to come here and spin this so it is ok.

I say Press 1 for English
Press 2 to get the fuck out if you don't know English

We can't pray in our schools without offending someone but the fucking President ok's building a mosque on Ground Zero !!
Give me a fucking break !!!

[ToDaClub]

Wait a while and wait for vitterd to come here and spin this so it is ok.

I say Press 1 for English
Press 2 to get the fuck out if you don't know English

We can't pray in our schools without offending someone but the fucking President ok's building a mosque on Ground Zero !!
Give me a fucking break !!!

AMEN, we had a school district down by Minneapolis that declared their language "English". If ya don't know it, pay extra to learn it!

[ToDaClub]

Lino Lakes approves English-only resolution

[efaw23]

u

while i don't think a mosque is a good idea for ground zero, why all the hatred to muslims?

if a christian group kills a abortion doctor or burns a clinic, should all christians be lumped into that catigory? what about the IRA? should every irish person be lumped in with that group? terrorists are terrorists and every group has them, that doesn't make everyone bad.

Husker I've read some of your posts and even though I don't agree with all of them this was right on point.

[efaw23]

I couldnt sleep tonight after getting my Ass handed to me in baseball so I decided to jump over bettorschat to read some politics and who hoo. First I stumbled into the post of one guy saying he hated Muslims but in another thread he claimed he wasnt prejudiced.......ok then I read a post where there is blatant racial name used to depict Muslims and it hasn't been removed and from what I see there a couple of mods present in the thread with the racial mis name. In 2010 I can not believe that individuals would judge a whole group of people on the terrible actions of a few. Was I upset and pissed when this happened yes I had to bury a cousin who happened to work for cantor fitzgerald but does that give me the right to start calling Muslims racial names. I've only been here for 3 months but I'm starting to see a familiar tone with the posters. The ones clapping at the raghead comments are the same ones who hate Obama and accuse him of being Muslim. I guess blomberg is a Muslim too because he is pushing for this. The same cast u have ravens ranting like limbaugh,you have another saying he hates Muslims and you have someone using a racial epithet to describe Muslims. Seeing this thread really shocked me because even though I live in 99 percent white area belong to a 100 percent white county club, I've never heard any of my friends talk like about any group of people like this. Some of the worst terrorists acts in this country have been commited by Americans,outside 9-11 wow this whole thread was a real eye opener.