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  • Originally posted by KazDog View Post
    I am going to vote yes but with a caveat or two. Of course!

    First. I've debated enough politics with people on the internet to know there's little to no way I'm going to change someone by something I write. So it can become a MerryGoRound after a while.

    Simply put, this is the internet, you really have no friends because we, for the most part, are faceless when we write or post. It would be one thing if we debated face to face. You can see a smile or get a handshake face to face. We can use our computers to say whatever we want with little or no repercussions. It can become, "who cares what I write or if someone doesn't like me.?"

    I've lost more than one 'friend' debating here. There is NO DOUBT in my mind people look at me or think of me differently here because of my politics and debating style, for lack of a better term. I've been called many names by more than just a few, sadly. I like to think that I NEVER revert to calling someone names until they initiate it or throw that first name at me, mostly because that's their only comeback.

    I've lost people that I thought would NEVER take a side against me because as I said, it's the internet and you really don't know who your true friends are. Doesn't take long to find out. That's just a lesson learned on my part. Some aren't even on here anymore. Even Two Ton Tony, who I thought could use his wit or brains to comeback, reverted to name calling because the debate was so thick. There is NO DOUBT in my mind that it WILL happen again. It's sad however it always comes to name calling.

    What Wayne said above is very true. People are passionate about politics. And people don't like me because I WILL have a comeback for them. As KB once told me, "if you mess with the bull, don't be surprised if you get the horns." I'm not changing who I am for this place or any other for that matter. You either like me for who I am or you do not. I speak my mind freely and Bettorschat won't change that. Don't mistake that for not having an open mind, because I do. If I feel unwanted, I just leave. That's my prerogative.

    On one hand, I think it's a bad idea because there are always hurt feelings that transpire. People just can't debate politics rationally. They just cant! ANd I've seen that on a number of forums.

    I decided long ago that I didn't care what people thought about me here and would give my opinion. I'm still in that place where I feel like I want to try and express my feelings and maybe people will see something of a different opinion rather than the one they've heard all their lives. Just maybe, someone might say, "hmmmm, I never thought of that, that's a good point." Then it makes it all worth it. Even if it's one person that 'gets it!'

    I'm voting YES because we're all big kids and if we don't want to read something, we don't have to go into the thread. Simple as that. I know for a fact, the major heated debates that some of us have been in have gotten more hits and posts than any other thread by far. There's a reason why political pundits like, Rush, Maher, Hannity etc, etc are still on the air....People enjoy the show, even on our little BC level.


    KAZ
    On that note you cat lover answer your e-mail.

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    • Originally posted by jcindaville View Post
      I agree with another poster here who said maybe there should have been a choice of I dont care, that might have cut down on the No's.
      I was going to suggest the same thing tonight.

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      • Originally posted by jcindaville View Post
        sad thing is, the only vote that matters is Monte's
        Wrong the votes that count are the members voting. I was asked to go by the votes and right now the votes still remain the same. Most people don't want the rants section.

        What's more creative is people posting in all sports regarding sports topics. Last time the rants section was on here people were getting pissed at each other and it was spilling over into other sections of the site. You easily say just don't go down into that section of the site if you don't like it, but that doesn't work. We have people on here who can't stand sports services and they have been repeatedly asked to stop bashing them. They continue to go down there instead of just ignoring that section of the site.

        We have asked no politics talks on here since closing down that thread and yet it continues to pop up every now and then. That's without a damn politics forum.

        Members disagreeing with others members and not liking other members have been told ignore them. Or put them on the ignore button so you don't have to see their posts. Does that work? No! Then it comes down to tell such as such to stay out of my threads.

        My point is the rant section will not bring anything good to the site. It might bring more posts but in the end its only going to bring them in the politics section and its going bring more disliking of members vs. members. It happened last time and it means it will happen again.

        I'm looking out for the betterment of the site, but I did agree to go by the votes which say No.

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        • Originally posted by wayne1218 View Post
          I agree. We should just close this poll now and let the no have it's win.
          Create a new poll. Add "Don't care".

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          • Monte, if members don't like each other, who cares?

            We all get over it.

            I don't participate in the politics here, but it is needed.

            The site is losing interest and running on E. I think we need some action here, something new, something to stir up an argument or two. Will there be some bad blood, of course, but that will happen with or without the forum. At least with the forum, we can get people talking again.....
            "CFB YTD: 5-8-1 -16.2"

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            • Originally posted by BettorsChat View Post
              Wrong the votes that count are the members voting. I was asked to go by the votes and right now the votes still remain the same. Most people don't want the rants section.
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              RECOUNT! Create a new poll with a DO NOT CARE choice.

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              • Monte it is obvious you don’t want this forum and why this poll was even created I will not understand. It is getting sad seeing your MODS, who have nothing to gain except more work form the forum, BEGGING you to create it…

                As far as the votes go….you’re going to decide by one or two votes?? You already know there are people who voted wrong and others that didn’t care and voted no…

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                • There are currently 113 members and 368 guests online.

                  The number of guests outnumber the members 3:1. This is because you can do everything as a guest that a user can do EXCEPT POST!

                  Maybe if we get some talking, some arguments, some interesting topics, people will have something they WANT TO POST. And will join your site accordingly.

                  I'm not sure how your site gets it's revenue. But I would think it is from your sponsor....... More interest, more members, more hits, more sponsors, more money.

                  If you think MM, JR23, Flare and KAZ won't find a way to talk to politics, that's you, but they'll get there talking in, why not give them a place to do it.
                  "CFB YTD: 5-8-1 -16.2"

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                  • Originally posted by frankb03 View Post
                    Create a new poll. Add "Don't care".

                    I gave up frank. It's monte's site and he needs to do what he thinks is best. I gave my opinion several times and people's opinions like savage seem more important. Right or wrong, it's how i feel.

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                    • Originally posted by Meg29 View Post
                      Monte it is obvious you don’t want this forum and why this poll was even created I will not understand. It is getting sad seeing your MODS, who have nothing to gain except more work form the forum, BEGGING you to create it…

                      As far as the votes go….you’re going to decide by one or two votes?? You already know there are people who voted wrong and others that didn’t care and voted no…
                      I took into account the 2 votes that said they wanted to change their vote and the 1 that said they didn't care. The No's still out weigh the Yes votes.

                      I didn't want the forum in the first place! And now I really don't want to see it back again, but I said fine post a poll. I was asked to go by the poll results now I'm being asked to ignore that.

                      The bottom line is people were getting pissed at each other and it was spilling over into the other parts of the sites. If people don't like each other then what are they going to do? Argue more which creates drama and runs posters away from the site. Or they will quit posting.

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                      • Originally posted by wayne1218 View Post
                        I gave up frank. It's monte's site and he needs to do what he thinks is best. I gave my opinion several times and people's opinions like savage seem more important. Right or wrong, it's how i feel.
                        Explain to me how savage's opinion means more? Please please explain.

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                        • Monte, Who asked you to go by the results? I didn't. We wanted to show you it WAS missed and based on almost 200 responses, i think my point was proven.

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                          • Originally posted by mavskidd02 View Post
                            There are currently 113 members and 368 guests online.

                            The number of guests outnumber the members 3:1. This is because you can do everything as a guest that a user can do EXCEPT POST!

                            Maybe if we get some talking, some arguments, some interesting topics, people will have something they WANT TO POST. And will join your site accordingly.

                            I'm not sure how your site gets it's revenue. But I would think it is from your sponsor....... More interest, more members, more hits, more sponsors, more money.

                            If you think MM, JR23, Flare and KAZ won't find a way to talk to politics, that's you, but they'll get there talking in, why not give them a place to do it.
                            right on Mavs!!!!!!

                            More hits on the sight the more money Monte will get from CHARLIE!!!
                            jordanrules..................

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                            • Originally posted by mavskidd02 View Post
                              There are currently 113 members and 368 guests online.

                              The number of guests outnumber the members 3:1. This is because you can do everything as a guest that a user can do EXCEPT POST!

                              Maybe if we get some talking, some arguments, some interesting topics, people will have something they WANT TO POST. And will join your site accordingly.

                              I'm not sure how your site gets it's revenue. But I would think it is from your sponsor....... More interest, more members, more hits, more sponsors, more money.

                              If you think MM, JR23, Flare and KAZ won't find a way to talk to politics, that's you, but they'll get there talking in, why not give them a place to do it.
                              You're right mavs it will get more talking about politics not sports. And as for guests I can fix it where they have to sign up to view the forum in general or after viewing a certain number of posts they have to sign up to view more of the site.

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                              • Originally posted by BettorsChat View Post
                                Explain to me how savage's opinion means more? Please please explain.
                                Because you kept telling us to email him for a damn vote and if you cared about his vote that much, why ask me to do it?

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