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  • #91
    Originally posted by Jamaicanman View Post
    So that would make him 1/2 white.

    So who decides that he is the first African_American President? Because he is 1/2 black? If that is the case, and you put your stupid in there, why isn't he the first "mixed" President, or the first 1/2 and 1/2 (to use your term)?

    You are saying all you have to be is 1/2 black to claim African-American status? How about 1/4? Who decides the ratios?
    what does it matter anyway what color he is? Yes, since he is half balck, then he is the 1st american president that is black. There has never been another pres that was half black. he is also the 1st mixed race pres...IT DOESN'T matter....You've brought this up in multiple threads, what is the point of all this?
    "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." -Mark Twain

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    • #92
      Originally posted by grandmama View Post
      what does it matter anyway what color he is? Yes, since he is half balck, then he is the 1st american president that is black. There has never been another pres that was half black. he is also the 1st mixed race pres...IT DOESN'T matter....You've brought this up in multiple threads, what is the point of all this?
      Because I am curious as to what makes a person "African-American. You say the answer is at least 1/2 ratio, or 1 parent. So why not 1/4, or a grandparent? Does that make a person Africa-American? 1/8?

      And I ask because it has been widely and constantly reported that he is the "first", so it is a legitimate question to ask what makes him he "first". I have never heard a report that President Obama is the first "mixed" President. Have you?

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Jamaicanman View Post
        Because I am curious as to what makes a person "African-American. You say the answer is at least 1/2 ratio, or 1 parent. So why not 1/4, or a grandparent? Does that make a person Africa-American? 1/8?

        And I ask because it has been widely and constantly reported that he is the "first", so it is a legitimate question to ask what makes him he "first". I have never heard a report that President Obama is the first "mixed" President. Have you?
        I have heard that he is mixed race. He is the first President that has had ANY african blood, therefore he is the first. It could be 1/22, it doesn't matter. He is the first and only president that is black. is that good enough for you?
        "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." -Mark Twain

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        • #94
          Originally posted by grandmama View Post
          I have heard that he is mixed race. He is the first President that has had ANY african blood, therefore he is the first. It could be 1/22, it doesn't matter. He is the first and only president that is black. is that good enough for you?
          So according to you, if someone is 1/22 "AFRICAN", they can claim African-American status? No limit to the fraction?

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Jamaicanman View Post
            So according to you, if someone is 1/22 "AFRICAN", they can claim African-American status? No limit to the fraction?
            Sam Bradford is 1/222222222 indian, and its not a problem for him. I'm 75% Italian. I have some friends that are 25% and they act like they're 100% in regards to culture, and idenity with Italians. %'s do not matter. its all relative. What point are you trying to make here? I feel like I'm talking to a 7th grader..
            "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." -Mark Twain

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            • #96
              Originally posted by grandmama View Post
              Sam Bradford is 1/222222222 indian, and its not a problem for him. I'm 75% Italian. I have some friends that are 25% and they act like they're 100% in regards to culture, and idenity with Italians. %'s do not matter. its all relative. What point are you trying to make here? I feel like I'm talking to a 7th grader..
              I appreciate the insult as it shows me who and what I am dealing with. I never insulted you, but it does show me a lot about you in such a short exchange. As far as the 7th grade comment about %'s not mattering, let me ask you this. If I am 1/22 "African-American", can I get business through the government as a minority-owned business? If I am 1/22 "African-American", can I apply for financial aid and scholarships as a minority?

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Jamaicanman View Post
                I appreciate the insult as it shows me who and what I am dealing with. I never insulted you, but it does show me a lot about you in such a short exchange. As far as the 7th grade comment about %'s not mattering, let me ask you this. If I am 1/22 "African-American", can I get business through the government as a minority-owned business? If I am 1/22 "African-American", can I apply for financial aid and scholarships as a minority?
                yes, if you can prove that you are 1/22 you can get all sorts of financial aid and schol $. I got some $ because I could trace that I had cherokee blood. There are tons of grants and types of aid out there for college money. I would talk to an advisor at your school, and they should know how to hook you up. In regards to minority owned business money, I am not sure, but I think there are a lot of small business owners on the site that should be able to answer your question. FYI, next time you should just ask the question you asked above from the get go. It felt like I was pulling teeth just to get your question....best of luck.
                "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." -Mark Twain

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by grandmama View Post
                  yes, if you can prove that you are 1/22 you can get all sorts of financial aid and schol $. I got some $ because I could trace that I had cherokee blood. There are tons of grants and types of aid out there for college money. I would talk to an advisor at your school, and they should know how to hook you up. In regards to minority owned business money, I am not sure, but I think there are a lot of small business owners on the site that should be able to answer your question. FYI, next time you should just ask the question you asked above from the get go. It felt like I was pulling teeth just to get your question....best of luck.
                  My questions have been the same all along: who decides if someone is or isn't African-American, and what % applies.

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                  • #99
                    I'm just using common sense, but I would imagine that anyone that is 50% of any race they would refer to themselves as whatever they wanted. Also, using common sense, I would guess that whatever the persons dad ethnicity is would determine what race they are (in regards to records)... Anyway, none of this matters, and you keep bringing it up. 33% of your post have to do with Obama's race..
                    Last edited by grandmama; 11-28-2009, 09:14 PM.
                    "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." -Mark Twain

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                    • Originally posted by Jamaicanman View Post
                      My questions have been the same all along: who decides if someone is or isn't African-American, and what % applies.
                      Since your so facinated by the breakdown and who decides. Some of your boys down south determined if anyone had one drop of negroe blood in them thats makes them black.

                      One-drop rule - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                      I hope this answers your question so you can drop this ridiculous pursuit.

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                      • Originally posted by musclemann View Post
                        Since your so facinated by the breakdown and who decides. Some of your boys down south determined if anyone had one drop of negroe blood in them thats makes them black.

                        One-drop rule - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                        I hope this answers your question so you can drop this ridiculous pursuit.
                        I think this guy has been here before.
                        "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." -Mark Twain

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                        • Originally posted by Jamaicanman View Post
                          I appreciate the insult as it shows me who and what I am dealing with. I never insulted you, but it does show me a lot about you in such a short exchange. As far as the 7th grade comment about %'s not mattering, let me ask you this. If I am 1/22 "African-American", can I get business through the government as a minority-owned business? If I am 1/22 "African-American", can I apply for financial aid and scholarships as a minority?

                          this was a very good and legitimate question. it shows why there should be absolutely no favoritism given to ANYONE! ALL these programs that benefit any race should be eliminated. but you got all the typical responses from the usual racists, and i am not talking about jordan.
                          “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have."

                          Gerald Ford

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                          • Originally posted by grandmama View Post
                            yes, if you can prove that you are 1/22 you can get all sorts of financial aid and schol $. I got some $ because I could trace that I had cherokee blood. There are tons of grants and types of aid out there for college money. I would talk to an advisor at your school, and they should know how to hook you up. In regards to minority owned business money, I am not sure, but I think there are a lot of small business owners on the site that should be able to answer your question. FYI, next time you should just ask the question you asked above from the get go. It felt like I was pulling teeth just to get your question....best of luck.
                            if im white can i get aide, school $, business loans????
                            jordanrules..................

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                            • I'm disappointed that the 2 African-American posters (I assume from reading their posts) either insult or call me racist (my boys down South) because I ask a legitimate question on race. If your replies are indicative of other "black" responses, I can see why race relations are where they are. Sad.

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