What am I missing on Josh Hamilton?

[Lsufan]

We need more pictures


of your girl friend

Here are some more pics that you asked for JC ....

http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/sh...56#post1453756

[Spark]

I feel bad for Chado

Most might say he brings it on himself ( he might sometimes ) but it seems when 1-2 guys jump on him it gives the O.K. for another 20 guys to jump on him

Kind of like highschool .....

Lets give the guy a little break - He didnt have to tell anyone of his past addictions ( i know he did this on his own ) and he shared it with the board whom he regarded as family / friends.

Lets not use what he trusted in telling us to bash the guy now

At cetain points it feels like I am watching one of those illegal streetfights where there are 8 people all beating up on one -- you watch it and cringe and feel like you want to do something to help ( even if you dont know if the one guy is at fault )


The Chado bashing makes me cringe at times

I do agree with this post ... I also feel sorry for Chad many times ... I truly do not think he is a bad person ... I do believe that sometimes we forget his age ... all people mature differently ...



The only thing I will say is that he never STFU when he should ... and I have told him this ... fvken end it and stop antagonizing people on this forum ...

[vols fan]

Any chance of this becoming an "All Time Classic Thread"

[jcindaville]

I do agree with this post ... I also feel sorry for Chad many times ... I truly do not think he is a bad person ... I do believe that sometimes we forget his age ... all people mature differently ...



The only thing I will say is that he never STFU when he should ... and I have told him this ... fvken end it and stop antagonizing people on this forum ...

I told him earlier in this thread to just quit, he wasnt going to change anyone's views and no one was going to change his.

Agree to disagree and just drop it before it gets to the name calling point. Unfortunately he didnt and the nastinest started coming out.

[jcindaville]

Here are some more pics that you asked for JC ....

http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/sh...56#post1453756

thats not exactly what i had in mind

[frankb03]

I told him earlier in this thread to just quit, he wasnt going to change anyone's views and no one was going to change his.

I agree. That's why I haven't continued to post my take on addiction. People have their opinions. They're not going to change. The one thing I've learned on this site. Opinions are like assholes. We all have them. Most are not going to be swayed from their opinion.

[jcindaville]

I agree. That's why I haven't continued to post my take on addiction. People have their opinions. They're not going to change. The one thing I've learned on this site. Opinions are like assholes. We all have them. Most are not going to be swayed from their opinion.

That is true, people are always arguing politics on here and they might as well argue with the wall. No one is changing shit

[vols fan]

That is true, people are always arguing politics on here and they might as well argue with the wall. No one is changing shit

Your right JC,you think I'm going to vote Obama because of all the shit Monte post about Mccain.Hell no and same with Monte wouldn't vote Mccain because of something I said about Obama.Agree to disagree and roll on.This was exciting though.

[jcindaville]

Your right JC,you think I'm going to vote Obama because of all the shit Monte post about Mccain.Hell no and same with Monte wouldn't vote Mccain because of something I said about Obama.Agree to disagree and roll on.This was exciting though.

It does make for a good read, and around here lately it has been a freaking snorefest.

No one is changing anyones views on shit

Waste of time and energy

[Bill the Thrill]

"It does make for a good read, and around here lately it has been a freaking snorefest."

'cept for that ASSelroad chick!~!!

[Lsufan]

It does make for a good read, and around here lately it has been a freaking snorefest.

No one is changing anyones views on shit

Waste of time and energy

I can always send the BC Photographers to Kentucky to take a few pics

[longnex]

I can always send the BC Photographers to Kentucky to take a few pics

[KazDog]

It shouldn't be a waste of time and energy. I've read this whole thread and some very interesting points have been made.

I've been trying to pick a side but I honestly can't. I agree with things from both sides, although I tend to want to agree more with Frank's and Chado's reasoning.

I think what it comes down to is the fact that he started using drugs and was it free will or were there things in his life that pushed him to that point?

It's not so simple to say that he or most people just start using because it's put in front of them. That's where the whole argument stems from in my opinion.

Wayne and the others feel he made a conscious and easy choice to start and get addicted. I don't believe it's just that easy. There are too many mental and sometimes deep rooted issues in one's life that can be underlying factors. It's easy to just say, "well he and everyone else should just say no."


The issue is whether he should be looked upon as a hero. As I said before, that's debatable. I think he's a strong willed individual who battled to overcome the disease. I think that's something that can be pointed out to anyone as a positive because for the most part, people succumb to the demons.

Any young adult is going to enticed with a myriad of temptations. I have no problem with Josh Hamilton being thought of as an inspiration.

KAZ

[Chado1]

It shouldn't be a waste of time and energy. I've read this whole thread and some very interesting points have been made.

I've been trying to pick a side but I honestly can't. I agree with things from both sides, although I tend to want to agree more with Frank's and Chado's reasoning.

I think what it comes down to is the fact that he started using drugs and was it free will or were there things in his life that pushed him to that point?
NO SHIT!!!
It's not so simple to say that he or most people just start using because it's put in front of them.
NO SHIT AGAIN!!!That's where the whole argument stems from in my opinion.

Wayne and the others feel he made a conscious and easy choice to start and get addicted. I don't believe it's just that easy. There are too many mental and sometimes deep rooted issues in one's life that can be underlying factors. It's easy to just say, "well he and everyone else should just say no."THIS IS MY ENTIRE POINT. PEOPLE THINK ITS MY STUPID DECISION TO HAVE DONE IT IN THE FIRST PLACE BUT THEY DO NOT THE UNDERLYING ROOTS OF HOW MY LIFE HAS WENT METALLY, PHYSICALLY OR EMOTIONALLY THAT COULD HAVE BEEN FACTORS IN USING DRUGS. WAYNE AND OTHERS JUST LOOK AT IT FROM THEIR PERSONAL PERSEPECTIVE AND THINK "I WOULDNT DO THAT MYSELF" BUT WHO THE FUCK IS TO SAY THEIR UNDERLYING ISSUES IN LIFE COMPARED TO MINE AND JUDGE THEM WITHOUT KNOWING??


The issue is whether he should be looked upon as a hero. As I said before, that's debatable. I think he's a strong willed individual who battled to overcome the disease. I think that's something that can be pointed out to anyone as a positive because for the most part, people succumb to the demons.

Any young adult is going to enticed with a myriad of temptations. I have no problem with Josh Hamilton being thought of as an inspiration.

KAZ

Great post Kaz...hopefully that explains things a little better...

[kbsooner21]

Chado, bro, let it die