What am I missing on Josh Hamilton?

[wayne1218]

All I am saying that I can see how easy it would be for someone to try crack thinking that it won't addict them and they can overcome it. Much like many of us have done with alcohol and driving.

Well when you REALLY want it again for a 2nd time, or a 3rd, isn't that your 1st clue to walk away quickly?

[GOLDENGREEK]

Tell me why my answer to your drunk driving question was ignorant? Because it made sense?

The government allows you to drive under a certain amount of alcohol. Do they or do they not? There is a fine line there for many when they have to head to their car. There is no fine line with crack. If you are caught with any of it in your car while driving or in your system, you are arrested. What is wrong or ignorant about that?

Government also chooses what to make illegal and legal -- it all goes back to $$$ and who is stuffing politicians pockets

Alcohol can easilly be just as addicting as other drugs and its actually worse because it is readilly available

We have a smoking ban now in Chicago -- I feel like a leper

I have to go outside in the streets and alleys to smoke -- WHY ???

If smoking is so bad (I KNOW THAT IT IS !! ) why do they still sell cigarettes ??

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

pretty soon they are going to tell us who and when we can fuck in our own house

Free country my ass !!!

[DDP713]

I'll ask you to respond to the answer i gave for his question too. I'm guessing you can't because what i say is not only fact, it is also law.

im not sure which answer your talking about but this isn't about drunk driving or the legal limit. there really is no comparison between crack & alcohol, besides obviously that there both drugs.
The difference between a drunk driver and Josh Hamilton is the drunk driver puts everyone else in harms way, he's a moving weapon. While Hamilton self destructed only himself.

[kim61299]

Wayne

I believe the above post should show you what I mean by the alcohol argument.

Whether it is legal or not. Whether it is a fine line or not. Is not my point. My point is we all make decisions in life that can affect ourselves and others negatively. We do this in full knowledge that it can hurt others as well as ourselves. Some of us do it with crack, some with alcohol, some with gambling. Whether we blow .08 or .25 isn't my point. Although I do understand your argument.

[DDP713]

No sports athlete should be anyones hero

Alot of things can become addictions

I agree that Hamilton shouldnt be praised - he did something wrong and was one of the lucky few to recover from it and get his life back

He should be pointed out as a warning of what not to do , not as a hero for overcoming what he originally did

Its a little diffrent if you grow up missing a parent / are abused by parents / grow up super poor / are on the streets at a young age ..etc. Hamilton had a future along with a 4 million dollar signing bonus -- he chose to fuck up his life

Who are you to determine who people should regard as heros?
And do you really think he kicked his addiction because he was one of the lucky few? He may have been one of the lucky few blessed with the physical talents to play the kind of baseball he plays but luck had nothing to do with his recovery.

You say he should be pointed out as a warning of what not to do....THATS EXACTLY WHAT HE'S SAYING HIMSELF!!! hes not asking other people to look at him as a hero, he's ashamed of his tattoos because they represent that time of his life.

[kim61299]

Interesting conversation - but I am hungry and need a beer. Better make that call so I can drive down and meet my Bud dealer on the corner in 20 minutes!

[GOLDENGREEK]

Wayne

I believe the above post should show you what I mean by the alcohol argument.

Whether it is legal or not. Whether it is a fine line or not. Is not my point. My point is we all make decisions in life that can affect ourselves and others negatively. We do this in full knowledge that it can hurt others as well as ourselves. Some of us do it with crack, some with alcohol, some with gambling. Whether we blow .08 or .25 isn't my point. Although I do understand your argument.

in addition some people have higher and lower tolerance to alcohol

Some people may drink 2 -3 beers and be under the legal limit and have no business driving

Others can drink 6-7 beers / have a higher tolerance level be over the legal limit and be perfectly OK to drive

[Kaptain]

Ddp

there you go kap take a picture

I see this----now would you take a picture of what Post # and what time I referred to Chado no tadmiting guilt, and then the Post # and time as of to when he did admit it was a mistake.....

That is if you've goet enough film in your camera....

After the fact my man.......not before it was questioned....geez....

[wayne1218]

I see this----now would you take a picture of what Post # and what time I referred to Chado no tadmiting guilt, and then the Post # and time as of to when he did admit it was a mistake.....

That is if you've goet enough film in your camera....

After the fact my man.......not before it was questioned....geez....

I think 1/2 the problem with some of the people jumping into this thread is they have not read it from post 1.

[DDP713]

Government also chooses what to make illegal and legal -- it all goes back to $$$ and who is stuffing politicians pockets

Alcohol can easilly be just as addicting as other drugs and its actually worse because it is readilly available

We have a smoking ban now in Chicago -- I feel like a leper

I have to go outside in the streets and alleys to smoke -- WHY ???

If smoking is so bad (I KNOW THAT IT IS !! ) why do they still sell cigarettes ??

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

pretty soon they are going to tell us who and when we can fuck in our own house

Free country my ass !!!

exactly, alcohol IS just as dangerous the facts continue to show that. just like chicago banning cigarette smoking in public, it sucks for the smokers but why should other people suffer while the addicted continue enjoying their drug.

[wayne1218]

exactly, alcohol IS just as dangerous the facts continue to show that. just like chicago banning cigarette smoking in public, it sucks for the smokers but why should other people suffer while the addicted continue enjoying their drug.

You guys will never get it. Nobody questions the addictions. This must be the 10th time i have said that!

[DDP713]

I see this----now would you take a picture of what Post # and what time I referred to Chado no tadmiting guilt, and then the Post # and time as of to when he did admit it was a mistake.....

That is if you've goet enough film in your camera....

After the fact my man.......not before it was questioned....geez....

I got plenty of film in my camera this is the digital age. but what difference does it make to you, whether he's admitted his mistake with drugs, on a sports forum?

[wayne1218]

I got plenty of film in my camera this is the digital age. but what difference does it make to you, whether he's admitted his mistake with drugs, on a sports forum?

Seriously, will you read the thread before responding to the wrong person for a 2nd time. Those posts are meant for me, not Kaptain and you are looking foolish.

[wayne1218]

I'm the one who said i was looking for Chad to admit it, not Kaptain.

[DDP713]

You guys will never get it. Nobody questions the addictions. This must be the 10th time i have said that!

We're all beginning to sound a bit redundant with our points. I'm sure this thread was started because harold is getting a bit sick of josh hamilton 24/7 over this all-star break...I understand that but I just think its extremley unfair to say he's only a role model to drug addicts...thats a prettty closed minded thing to say, a "hero" is open to interpretation as we all have different opinions on that....i'm humbled by someone new everyday, that doesn't mean they're now my role model...individuals like Josh Hamilton should INSPIRE! point blank period....that's all I was trying to get across to harold_bush when he asked "what am I missing on josh hamilton"