For Jordan Rules. What Is This CRAP?

[tonynico]

I think they're one and the same. Complaining and holding people accountable. All wrapped into one impeachment. You don't do a good job, you get fired, and someone else makes the changes. Holding on to someone who's not doing a good just makes the changes happen later than sooner.

Again, agree to disagree. If that is the case, then EVERY Congress person will be voted out next year. 11% approval rating is nuts. They aren't being held accountable, and they ran on ending the war and no pork. Will those complaining vote them out? And impeaching leaves Cheney. Impeach both and you're left with Nancy Pelosi. Talk about your lose,lose,lose!! The who Harry Reid?

[BigWeiner]

Buy low, sell high!!
I don't think that throwing money at the education system is the answer though. Too many factors. Uninvolved parents I think being the most important. I starting reading up on vouchers, so I can't speak too much about those. But they do sound appealing.

Exactly. Throwing money no, but teachers need to make more money and need to have less kids. I don't wanna get started on this, I'm a little too far on the left on this issue. You know, dumb down the American people so they'll enlist. I won't get started. Good conversation, you're a smart dude, got a lot respect, wish more were like you. Take it easy.

[BigWeiner]

Again, agree to disagree. If that is the case, then EVERY Congress person will be voted out next year. 11% approval rating is nuts. They aren't being held accountable, and they ran on ending the war and no pork. Will those complaining vote them out?

Isiah Thomas = George Bush

Should the Knicks stick with Isiah?

[tonynico]

Exactly. Throwing money no, but teachers need to make more money and need to have less kids. I don't wanna get started on this, I'm a little too far on the right on this issue. You know, dumb down the American people so they'll enlist. I won't get started. Good conversation, you're a smart dude, got a lot respect, wish more were like you. Take it easy.

Take care, nice conversation. Keeping it civil, and on topic, is not that hard!!
I agree about teachers making better money (good ones, but union is too strong to get rid of the bad ones), more planning time, smaller classroom sizes, more funding for extrecurricular activities, etc. I don't think there's a conspiracy to "dumb down" America to get more enlistees though.

[tonynico]

Isiah Thomas = George Bush

Should the Knicks stick with Isiah?

Congress=Brain Billick
stay or go!!!

[BigWeiner]

Congress=Brain Billick
stay or go!!!

I think of congress more like Norv Turner

[tonynico]

I think of congress more like Norv Turner

I thought of BB b/c of coming in with hype, overpromising and underdelivering, hasn't done anything yet has the tools, tries to spin and talk his way out of responsibiity, and has lost the trust and confidence of fans. Sounds just like COngress to me!!!

[BigWeiner]

Take care, nice conversation. Keeping it civil, and on topic, is not that hard!!
I agree about teachers making better money (good ones, but union is too strong to get rid of the bad ones), more planning time, smaller classroom sizes, more funding for extrecurricular activities, etc. I don't think there's a conspiracy to "dumb down" America to get more enlistees though.

Actually I'm not sure what I believe, but I'm not discounting it, let's just put it that way.

[BearDown]

I am not saying the criticsm isn't justified, just that at some point enough is enough. Everyone is going to be running on the "I'm not President Bush" platform, but I would prefer that any candidate would point out how they would do things differently. Sell the plan, sell the differences, and tell me how you will execute. But to keep beating the same "Bush is bad" drum isn't productive for the future. That is "piling on"!!

I don't think it's piling on. I guess it's just how you read into it. I think some candidates are just sending a message that we don't need another George Bush type President, AKA a Republican. You know, you don't hear any Republican candidate talking about how great things are going other than blind Rudy. You don't hear any of them saying we have to keep the George Bush policy going (unlike when Reagan left) do you? Nobody wants to be associated with George Bush, not even his own party.

[harold_bush]

congress approval ratings are WORSE than Bush's.

[tonynico]

I don't think it's piling on. I guess it's just how you read into it. I think some candidates are just sending a message that we don't need another George Bush type President, AKA a Republican. You know, you don't hear any Republican candidate talking about how great things are going other than blind Rudy. You don't hear any of them saying we have to keep the George Bush policy going (unlike when Reagan left) do you? Nobody wants to be associated with George Bush, not even his own party.

I agree 100% that Rebuplicans are distancing themselves on most (not all) issues. BUT, when the Democrats just say "I won't be like him", yet offer nothing else up in addition, or choose not to compare and contrast thier platforms to their opponents, that's when I mention piling on. They are running against each other, not against President Bush. And since you said no one is really standing side by side with Bush in his party, won't it make more sense to put your position out there for the general elecetion too so you can show the differences in candidates? It's not like anyone is running against a President Bush stand-in.

[BettorsChat]

TAKE THE BLINDERS OFF AND RE READ THE POST, NOTHING ABOUT THE RIGHT OR WRONG OF BUSH

The book isn't do out until April 2008

I guess the guy that wrote the book about the republicans including Bush laughing behind the Religious leaders was all out for money too.

[BettorsChat]

Where did he write that Bush can do no wrong? I don't think anyone would ever say that. He just wrote of t he interesting timing and money connection. Why is it that people don't seem to stay on topic, especially when discussing politics. It amazes me the outright hatred for our President. Polarizing I can see, legitimate disagreements with philosophically, yes. But the disrespect and hatred is crazy. And that's all that most Democrats, especially Hillary Clinton, seem to want to point out.

Did you even read the article? And my second post? This whole book has to do with Bush and his people = Right Wing

[BettorsChat]

It's amazing. There's no Global Warming, even though New Orleans is still under fucking water. The economy is great, even though people are being laid off left and right, the stock market is crashing, schools are completely fucked and the dollar is worth less than the Euro. Why can't people just look at their fucking window????

The EU and another Big Country just put out an article this week or last that global warming is true and the USA & China are the biggest contributors.

The dollar is worth less than the Canadian and at an all time low vs. the canadain since 1870.

[tonynico]

Did you even read the article? And my second post? This whole book has to do with Bush and his people = Right Wing

I was referring to your first post in the thread asking "can Bush do no wrong"? Are you saying he hasn't done anything correct? And I am not here to defend what he has or hasn't done, just what I think are useless, off-topic replies that have nothing to do with the article, or his post about the "timing" and "money". If anyone brings up a different point of view, or even anything remotely positive, most of the left does go on the attack. In my opinion, it does no good. Nothng more, nothing less.