Peyton Manning

[jhedrick]

I am curious as to what the knock on Peyton Manning will be today? He still cant win the BIG game? Cos everygame in the NFL isnt a BIG contest right?

He is the most prepared player in the league and is one of a handful of the best quarterbacks that any of us have seen with our own eyes!

I am curious to hear the haters today???

[10DimeBry]

I hate manning. Where should i start. Last nights game was a regular season game,nothing more, nothing less. Its hyped because of TV. Manning choked in Tenn and he choked countless times in the playoffs with an offense that was basically unstoppable. And you can use the excuse of they were on the road all you want. But the fact is until the guy NUTS up and wins a playoff game that counts IE AFC TITLE GAME OR A SUPERBOWL the guy is just another QB in the NFL in my book.

[10DimeBry]

Oh and let me add he is a top 5 QB in the league. I dont argue that at all. Manning just doesnt have "What it takes" to win it all. If he proves me wrong i'll stand corrected, until then this isnt even a arguement

[frankb03]

I hate manning. Where should i start. Last nights game was a regular season game,nothing more, nothing less. Its hyped because of TV. Manning choked in Tenn and he choked countless times in the playoffs with an offense that was basically unstoppable. And you can use the excuse of they were on the road all you want. But the fact is until the guy NUTS up and wins a playoff game that counts IE AFC TITLE GAME OR A SUPERBOWL the guy is just another QB in the NFL in my book.

Manning choked? Playing in NE on January in adverse conditions is not choking. While Indy's offense was unstoppable. Their defense couldn't stop anyone.

Under your stipulations where would you rank Marino? Statiscally, Marino was the NFL's greatest QB. Unfortunately, he never played with a good running game or a good D. Miami still won because of Marino. He went to the Superbowl once. In that superbowl he looked very ordinary.

[TheRook]

I hate manning. Where should i start. Last nights game was a regular season game,nothing more, nothing less. Its hyped because of TV. Manning choked in Tenn and he choked countless times in the playoffs with an offense that was basically unstoppable. And you can use the excuse of they were on the road all you want. But the fact is until the guy NUTS up and wins a playoff game that counts IE AFC TITLE GAME OR A SUPERBOWL the guy is just another QB in the NFL in my book.

I can only agree on one point and that is that he hasn't won the big one yet. Couldn't in college and hasn't yet in the NFL.

But he can't play defense....and anyone putting the sole blame on Manning in the playoffs is just wrong.

Last night was a statement game...now in the next couple weeks, especially against Pitt we will see if they are for real.

[10DimeBry]

Manning choked? Playing in NE on January in adverse conditions is not choking. While Indy's offense was unstoppable. Their defense couldn't stop anyone.

Under your stipulations where would you rank Marino? Statiscally, Marino was the NFL's greatest QB. Unfortunately, he never played with a good running game or a good D. Miami still won because of Marino. He went to the Superbowl once. In that superbowl he looked very ordinary.

Marino is 1000 times better than manning. Its not even close. They shouldnt even be mentioned in the same breath. Mannings weapons are E. James great RB, M.Harrison a top 3 WR in all of football, R. Wayne a stud #2 WR and dallas clark who when healthy a great TE who blocks well and can catch. Who did marino have??? Duper and clayton. come on.

[frankb03]

Marino is 1000 times better than manning. Its not even close. They shouldnt even be mentioned in the same breath. Mannings weapons are E. James great RB, M.Harrison a top 3 WR in all of football, R. Wayne a stud #2 WR and dallas clark who when healthy a great TE who blocks well and can catch. Who did marino have??? Duper and clayton. come on.

Do you think Harrison or Wayne are great playing with Ben? I don't

Great or not great Manning or any QB has got to get them the ball.

[10DimeBry]

I can only agree on one point and that is that he hasn't won the big one yet. Couldn't in college and hasn't yet in the NFL.

But he can't play defense....and anyone putting the sole blame on Manning in the playoffs is just wrong.
Last night was a statement game...now in the next couple weeks, especially against Pitt we will see if they are for real.

this is laughable. You cant have it both ways man. You give manning all the credit when they win and then when he fails to show up and throws 3 ints you say its the Defenses fault come on. Get real. You cannot really believe that do you????

Where is the marvin harrison or edgerin james threads proping them up as getting the monkey off their backs???? this is laughable.

[10DimeBry]

Do you think Harrison or Wayne are great playing with Ben? I don't

Great or not great Manning or any QB has got to get them the ball.

frank you must be drunk. Harrison is AWESOME. he makes manning better. Harrison is an unreal WR. Put him with any top 10 QB and he will make them look like a superstar.

[TheRook]

Marino is 1000 times better than manning. Its not even close. They shouldnt even be mentioned in the same breath. Mannings weapons are E. James great RB, M.Harrison a top 3 WR in all of football, R. Wayne a stud #2 WR and dallas clark who when health a great TE who blocks well and can catch. Who did marino have??? Duper and clayton. come on.

Are you CRAZY???

Marino was great, but 1000 better?

Duper and Clayton ....come on? Clayton holds the team record for receptions with 550, and Duper holds the record for receiving yards with 8,869.

Who did Marino have?? How bout 1984

How bout Nat Moore who is a huge #3 WR....in 84 is had 43 catches for 573 yds and 6 td

they had two tight ends bruce hardy and dan johnson who combined for 62 catches 683 yrds and 8td and a 3 running back tandum who ran for a combined 1659 yds and 17 touch downs

1985 same thing

Moore 51-701 and 6td's

tight ends 71-907 and 11 td

rb's 1662 yds and 19 td

So don't gimme the excuse that Marino didn't have anyone....

[TheRook]

this is laughable. You cant have it both ways man. You give manning all the credit when they win and then when he fails to show up and throws 3 ints you say its the Defenses fault come on. Get real. You cannot really believe that do you????

Where is the marvin harrison or edgerin james threads proping them up as getting the monkey off their backs???? this is laughable.

Show me where I give all credit solely to Payton?

Maybe you'd rather go back and see where I call them the most complete team in the NFL...

Come on now...your reaching

[10DimeBry]

Show me where I give all credit solely to Payton?

Maybe you'd rather go back and see where I call them the most complete team in the NFL...

Come on now...your reaching

i'm not saying you specifically man, i'm saying in general.

[10DimeBry]

and i'm not talking about the colts being a complete team. If thats what your saying then it proves my point even more that manning is a choke artist.

[TheRook]

and i'm not talking about the colts being a complete team. If thats what your saying then it proves my point even more that manning is a choke artist.

And how is that? I'd love to hear this!

[10DimeBry]

And how is that? I'd love to hear this!

because you've stated that the colts have the most complete team. And they have the same team as last year. In fact this years team IMO might be slightly worse than last years team. Yet manning couldnt cut it when the chips were down last year or the year before. Face it.