Rumor has it UK has found their new coach

[wayne1218]

Let me get this right Wayne. Tell me where I'm misinterpreting........

Because Calipari brought Memphis back to a high ranked program, he can (essentially) do whatever he pleases. And because he made them money, he has the right to take the kids Memphis spent money on and walk over to UK with them??


Memphis paid Calipari to do his job, he did it, but how the f**k does that entitle him to take recruits that are Memphis'?? Calipari made Memphis money, and by your logic he can do what he wants with that money, including SPENDING IT ON ANOTHER SCHOOL!!!! Come on now, you can't think its fair that Memphis spends money to get kids, and UK ends up with them basically without spending a dime.

C'Mon man, did you think he was going to be there for 40 years or something and never leave? The guy has the right to move on. He gave Memphis some great years and he did a great job when he was there. What's wrong with accepting that and liking him for what he did do for Memphis? I was just taking a shower and caller after caller on sports radio was calling for Memphis. They were all sad to see him go but none were surprisingly angry. Most to a man said they loved his time there and they wish him luck. Why the bitterness?

[BillMill71]

I doubt two of the three have the grades to get into Kentucky, that is why they were going to Memphis in the first place.

As far as the "mercenary" comments, please, save the preaching, NCAA sports are a money printing machine, why was no one enraged when the big college program fired Gillespie 2 years into his long term hire? Calipari and UK were given permission to negotiate, Memphis lost. The list of college coaches fired in one to two years (not nearly enough time to turn around a program) is long and distinguished where is that outrage? Coaches shoudl get what they can get when they can get it.

As far as stealing the recruits, the argument has been made, these kids would NEVER have come to Memphis without Calipari, oh and by the way Memphis would never have been like 192 - 30 or whatever they have over the last 9 years or so without Calipari. Oh and like I said in the first sentence, Calipari would not been as nearly succesful without the universities less than stellar admission policies. He did not plan to leave to go to UK for the last 5 years he has been wooing these knuckleheads that committed this year at AAU games since they were 11.

It is a business.

[savage1]

Savage, are you serious? Do you actually think that plays a significant part in most high ranked HS athletes? It may play a part in most HS players thinking, but you are talking about players in the TOP 5 in HS!!! They are going to go to the coach who will develop their game so they have a chance to be a first round NBA draft pick, get a guaranteed contract that will set them and their families up for life. Nothing more, nothing less. Of course they are going to follow Calipari....

Its too bad that rather than go through the facade of attending college for a year or two just to showcase themselves for the NBA, that they simply set up a league after highschool for students/athletes who simply want to play in the NBA or the NFL for that matter.
It appalls me no end that some of these players wouldn't have a prayer of being admitted to some of these schools(meaning they are not smart enough and/or motivated enough academically)if it weren't for their athletic abilities.
Of course, as we all know, some of these prized "students" and are "tutored" and "helped" along the way to be sure that they do pass the exams and get through college so that they can continue to play sports-for both the good of the "student" and for the school itself of course.

[mavskidd02]

Listen, I love my job...if my owner asked me today if I had plans on leaving, I would tell him point blank 'no'. And if another company called me up tomorrow and offered me a job at a world renowned facility that was recognozed as one of the top jobs in my industry, paying me double what I am right now...I would ask them 'where do I sign up'. If that makes me a mercernary, then so be it.

Yes, and that's all fine and good, you have to do what's best for you, but the situation does not translate 3J. Because Calipari is stealing kids from Memphis, and hurting Memphis' program. You taking that job is not really hurting your previous work place. The analogy doesn't really translate.

[savage1]

Listen, I love my job...if my owner asked me today if I had plans on leaving, I would tell him point blank 'no'. And if another company called me up tomorrow and offered me a job at a world renowned facility that was recognozed as one of the top jobs in my industry, paying me double what I am right now...I would ask them 'where do I sign up'. If that makes me a mercernary, then so be it.

The circumstances are somewhat different as pointed out by mavskid-you unlike Calipari would not be using university funds solely to advance your own career!
I am THRILLED that Calipari lost in the Tournament both last year and this one.

[mavskidd02]

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Let me get this right Wayne. Tell me where I'm misinterpreting........

Because Calipari brought Memphis back to a high ranked program, he can (essentially) do whatever he pleases. And because he made them money, he has the right to take the kids Memphis spent money on and walk over to UK with them??


Memphis paid Calipari to do his job, he did it, but how the f**k does that entitle him to take recruits that are Memphis'?? Calipari made Memphis money, and by your logic he can do what he wants with that money, including SPENDING IT ON ANOTHER SCHOOL!!!! Come on now, you can't think its fair that Memphis spends money to get kids, and UK ends up with them basically without spending a dime.

[wayne1218]

Savage, are you serious? Do you actually think that plays a significant part in most high ranked HS athletes? It may play a part in most HS players thinking, but you are talking about players in the TOP 5 in HS!!! They are going to go to the coach who will develop their game so they have a chance to be a first round NBA draft pick, get a guaranteed contract that will set them and their families up for life. Nothing more, nothing less. Of course they are going to follow Calipari....

I can't believe savage doesn't know this already!

[savage1]

You forgot about the part about the tens of millions he will bring into the University that will not only fund academics at the University but allow it to grow, cultivate and offer future students a better education.....

And, while I have your undivided attention Savvy...since you ripped Sarah Palin up and down for having a daughter that had a teen pregnancy, blaming her for everything, what's your take on the whoring, pot smoking, coke snorting daughter of the 'Drug Czar' VP???

I amended my statement if you read my next post.
Re: Biden's daughter, she obviously has problems in the same way as does Palin's daughter.
The big difference as I see it going back to the campaign is that Biden is/has been an experienced politician in Washington for many years, and that was a feather in his cap.
Sarah Palin was/is a big question mark as far as going from the minor league to one step away from the Presidency.
The fact that her own young daughter became pregnant while unwed while she(Sarah) preached abstinence(meaning that she neither brought up her daughter very well nor garnered her respect) simply raised more doubts as to her capabilties as the VP and (heaven forbid) the Presidency.

[wayne1218]

Yeah, I'm sure Calipari isn't nudging these guys over to UK with him. Bull shit, they're committed to Memphis and now Calipari is leaving Memphis behind and taking these kids with him. Memphis is the team with four straight sweet sixteens and all these 30 win seasons, these kids want to play for a winning program, not neccessarily a winning coach.

Why would he have to? He already got their attention when THEY SAID they wanted to play for HIM. Do you think going to UK is really going to bother those recruits? Hell no, they probably love it. Again, be mad at them.

He is stealing Memphis recruits is the way I look at it. Do you know how much money it takes to recruit kids? Research, plane fares, this, that and everything. Did Calipari pay for that shit himself? No, Memphis did. So this is the way I look at it:

He used Memphis' money to recruit kids, signed with Memphis and is now planning on taking these kids and walking over to UK, what did Memphis get out of it. Cuz, they sure did spend a shitload of money to sign these kids. How's that fair?

How much money do you think he made Memphis in his time there? I'll tell you, a shitload! All money they were not making before he got there. I'm sure those millions were not spent flying a few kids in to Memphis.

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[Three Jack]

Your post shows three things:

3) That it is obvious that the kids going with Calipari consider the athletic program and specifically playing and winning basketball games much more important in consideration than what the schools offer themselves in the way of academics.

Savage, are you serious? Do you actually think that plays a significant part in most high ranked HS athletes? It may play a part in most HS players thinking, but you are talking about players in the TOP 5 in HS!!! They are going to go to the coach who will develop their game so they have a chance to be a first round NBA draft pick, get a guaranteed contract that will set them and their families up for life. Nothing more, nothing less. Of course they are going to follow Calipari....

[Three Jack]

Listen, I love my job...if my owner asked me today if I had plans on leaving, I would tell him point blank 'no'. And if another company called me up tomorrow and offered me a job at a world renowned facility that was recognozed as one of the top jobs in my industry, paying me double what I am right now...I would ask them 'where do I sign up'. If that makes me a mercernary, then so be it.

[savage1]

Yeah, I'm sure Calipari isn't nudging these guys over to UK with him. Bull shit, they're committed to Memphis and now Calipari is leaving Memphis behind and taking these kids with him. Memphis is the team with four straight sweet sixteens and all these 30 win seasons, these kids want to play for a winning program, not neccessarily a winning coach.

He is stealing Memphis recruits is the way I look at it. Do you know how much money it takes to recruit kids? Research, plane fares, this, that and everything. Did Calipari pay for that shit himself? No, Memphis did. So this is the way I look at it:

He used Memphis' money to recruit kids, signed with Memphis and is now planning on taking these kids and walking over to UK, what did Memphis get out of it. Cuz, they sure did spend a shitload of money to sign these kids. How's that fair?

Your post shows three things:
1)That Calipari like many others is a pure mercenary.
2) Memphis wasn't perceptive enough to realize that since he basically did the same thing at Umass, that he would probably do it again to them(Memphis) if/when the chance/opportunity ocurred.
3) That it is obvious that the kids going with Calipari consider the athletic program and specifically playing and winning basketball games much more important in consideration than what the schools offer themselves in the way of academics.

[Three Jack]

Something seems out of line in these troubled economic times when a school will pay a basketball coach(which is about a four month job) $5 million year to stand on the sidelines and make decisions related to winning a basketball game as well as trying to get others to come to the school who will also help the team win more basketball games.
With priorities like this, it is no wonder that out society is in a sad state of decline.

You forgot about the part about the tens of millions he will bring into the University that will not only fund academics at the University but allow it to grow, cultivate and offer future students a better education.....

And, while I have your undivided attention Savvy...since you ripped Sarah Palin up and down for having a daughter that had a teen pregnancy, blaming her for everything, what's your take on the whoring, pot smoking, coke snorting daughter of the 'Drug Czar' VP???

[mavskidd02]

mavs, Those kids are not going to Memphis because Memphis is where they want to play. If they were, they wouldn't care who the coach was. They chose Memphis because they wanted to play for Calipari, plain & simple. If he wasn't there, they wouldn't be Memphis recruits any way. If anything, blame the recruits, not Calipari. It's their choice.

Yeah, I'm sure Calipari isn't nudging these guys over to UK with him. Bull shit, they're committed to Memphis and now Calipari is leaving Memphis behind and taking these kids with him. Memphis is the team with four straight sweet sixteens and all these 30 win seasons, these kids want to play for a winning program, not neccessarily a winning coach.

He is stealing Memphis recruits is the way I look at it. Do you know how much money it takes to recruit kids? Research, plane fares, this, that and everything. Did Calipari pay for that shit himself? No, Memphis did. So this is the way I look at it:

He used Memphis' money to recruit kids, signed with Memphis and is now planning on taking these kids and walking over to UK, what did Memphis get out of it. Cuz, they sure did spend a shitload of money to sign these kids. How's that fair?

[Three Jack]

He wants the job, fine go take it. Don't steal Memphis' recruits. Work at UK for a year, and then get your own recruits, don't take Memphis commits and potential signees over to UK with you. That is what makes me think he is a douchebag and an asshole.

If you think for one second that those recruits would still go to Memphis without Calipari you are very wrong, imo.