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  • This thread was started to bash the Packers for having the gaul of offering someone a contract to stay retired. They were blasted in this thread for doing something that people claim never happen in any business.

    The fact is it does happen all the time and the Packers have done nothing wrong in the handling of this situation...end of story.
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    • Originally posted by BettorsChat
      GB just needs to release him or trade him to a team that he will play for and get some younger talent. I mean shit this is a no brainer.
      Monte, it is obvious the ONLY team he wants to play for is Minnesota. Why should the Packers let him play for their arch rival?

      I agree that they should try to trade him, which they have and supposedly are doing by the newspaper articles. But if he won't go to a team that they are willing to trade him to, it sounds like they will make him carry a clipboard and be a #2 QB if he doesn't accept this contract. That would blow for Favre and the Pack but if I were Packer management, I would want that before I would want to see him wearing purple every Sunday.
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      • what teams do this ALL THE TIME ? it's called - a BRIBE....


        Favre is calling their bluff....

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        • Originally posted by tash
          what teams do this ALL THE TIME ? it's called - a BRIBE....


          Favre is calling their bluff....
          I never said 'teams' do this all the time. Sports is big business and it happens in big business ALL THE TIME.
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          • Originally posted by Three Jack
            This thread was started to bash the Packers

            Yes it was and if you don't like it, you can start your own thread like you did.

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            • Originally posted by tash
              what teams do this ALL THE TIME ? it's called - a BRIBE....


              Favre is calling their bluff....
              EXACTLY ... They act like Bribe's happen every fucken day in sports with management and athletes!!!

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              • Originally posted by wayne1218
                Yes it was and if you don't like it, you can start your own thread like you did.
                I actually love it, and all its misinformed posts! But thanks for pointing that out!!
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                • Originally posted by wayne1218
                  EXACTLY ... They act like Bribe's happen every fucken day in sports with management and athletes!!!
                  Sure, now it is convenient for it to be just sports...but when you fried Seaofred in psot #34 it was business. Which one is it, Wayne???
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                  • Originally posted by Three Jack
                    I actually love it, and all its misinformed posts! But thanks for pointing that out!!

                    Read the "Bottom Line" and look in the mirror to find the "Misinformed". It is a fact, not an opinion and you seem to have trouble grasping that. I guess the former players and analysts have no clue how this league works but you do?

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                    • See, what pisses me off is that this is shit all being said by guys who know the rules and have played in this league, along with analysts and guys following the story who have researched the Union rules and you guys play it off as my "Opinion". The fact is, no matter how much i side with Favre, it isn't an opinion. It is a fact. Roger Goodell works for and is paid by the owners and he is putting off reinstatement FOR G.B.'s sake, not Brett Favre. He knows about the 24 hour window once he signs off and he is trying to wait until G.B. has a plan before he does it and makes them look really bad. That again is not an opinion. It is the exact reason why he is waiting. He knows what mess will follow if G.B. isn't prepared for it ... Which they are not. They have the 3 options they had 2 weeks ago. Let him come to camp as a backup, trade him to a team he agrees to, or release him. Once again 3J, those 3 options are fact and not opinion. It has been stated on t.v. 100 times by people who know more than you and me combined. Why you choose to argue or skirt those options is beyond me because it is what it is. I don't know why G.B. doesn't just trade him to a division team that wants him anyway. At the most he plays 2 more years and you can bleed another team that you are competing with dry of draft picks. If they are that scared, than have him come to camp as a backup. If he refuses, THAN they have the right to suspend him and Favre is the one with egg on his face. Who gives a fuck if he plays for Minny anyway. The Red Sox knew Damon was leaving for the Yankees and that didn't stop them. God damn, you play twice a year, just go out and beat his ass!
                      Last edited by wayne1218; 08-02-2008, 01:49 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by WayneChung
                        i would like to read a thread about how hard the calluses are on the palm of his right hand !!
                        chad,do you wear a glove like MJ ???
                        DON'T YOU EAT THE YELLOW SNOW !! PS-MARVIN LOVES SPLIT SALAD !!

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                        • Originally posted by Three Jack
                          Monte, it is obvious the ONLY team he wants to play for is Minnesota. Why should the Packers let him play for their arch rival?

                          I agree that they should try to trade him, which they have and supposedly are doing by the newspaper articles. But if he won't go to a team that they are willing to trade him to, it sounds like they will make him carry a clipboard and be a #2 QB if he doesn't accept this contract. That would blow for Favre and the Pack but if I were Packer management, I would want that before I would want to see him wearing purple every Sunday.
                          What are they worried about? I mean he isn't good enough to play for them anymore so who cares if he plays against your rival.

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                          • Excellent editorial in todays paper for those that don't get the Wausau Daily Herald Bottom line, it is business.

                            Spare me the furrowed brow, step off the soapbox and lose the holier-than-thou scowl.


                            I'm referring to the grandstanders who are shocked, appalled and offended that the Green Bay Packers reportedly offered Brett Favre $20 million to stay retired, and worse yet, Favre is considering the offer.

                            The Packers are being portrayed as the evil empire for proposing what some view as a bribe to get Favre out of their hair. Meanwhile, Favre is being painted in some corners as a money-grubbing sellout for even thinking about taking the Packers up on their offer.

                            Those naïve enough to think pro football isn't a business need a cold slap in the face. This entire Favre saga has been a lesson in how the real world works.

                            Some would prefer to bury their heads in the sand and cling to the belief that our sports heroes play strictly for the love of the game and remain forever young. The fact is, even the greatest athletes eventually grow old and must be replaced.

                            And yes, I'll let you in on a not-so-well-kept secret: Money plays a major factor in most if not all decisions in pro sports.

                            I won't think any less of Favre if he agrees to the reported 10-year personal services contract offered by Packers President and CEO Mark Murphy. Dan Marino apparently signed a similar agreement with the Miami Dolphins, so what's the big deal?

                            And I won't hammer the Packers' organization for extending a peace offering. Favre has been the face of the franchise for more than a decade, so why wouldn't the team want to maintain a friendly relationship?

                            In light of how ugly the feud between Favre and the Packers was getting, a monetary settlement might be the least objectionable compromise. Favre himself said as much when he told ESPN: "There isn't a perfect solution to this, but Mark Murphy is at least trying. We know what they want and where I stand. His solution, although awkward and unsettling for most, may be the best in the end."

                            The options for Favre and the Packers are limited.

                            Favre wants to be the starting quarterback for a contender, preferably either the Packers or the Minnesota Vikings. Few, if any other attractive options exist. Can you blame Favre if he doesn't want to get his brains beat in behind center for the New York Jets?

                            As for the Packers, they have designated Aaron Rodgers their starter. History will judge the wisdom of that decision, but in the meantime the Packers can't have Favre's long shadow looming over Rodgers. They also would be foolish to give Favre an opportunity to play for the Vikings, who are just a good quarterback away from becoming a bona fide Super Bowl contender.

                            In the end, it comes down to a business decision for both sides. Anyone wanting to make more out of it than that is either ignorant, arrogant or both.
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                            • Originally posted by PhilJr
                              Excellent editorial in todays paper for those that don't get the Wausau Daily Herald Bottom line, it is business.

                              Spare me the furrowed brow, step off the soapbox and lose the holier-than-thou scowl.


                              I'm referring to the grandstanders who are shocked, appalled and offended that the Green Bay Packers reportedly offered Brett Favre $20 million to stay retired, and worse yet, Favre is considering the offer.

                              The Packers are being portrayed as the evil empire for proposing what some view as a bribe to get Favre out of their hair. Meanwhile, Favre is being painted in some corners as a money-grubbing sellout for even thinking about taking the Packers up on their offer.

                              Those naïve enough to think pro football isn't a business need a cold slap in the face. This entire Favre saga has been a lesson in how the real world works.

                              Some would prefer to bury their heads in the sand and cling to the belief that our sports heroes play strictly for the love of the game and remain forever young. The fact is, even the greatest athletes eventually grow old and must be replaced.

                              And yes, I'll let you in on a not-so-well-kept secret: Money plays a major factor in most if not all decisions in pro sports.

                              I won't think any less of Favre if he agrees to the reported 10-year personal services contract offered by Packers President and CEO Mark Murphy. Dan Marino apparently signed a similar agreement with the Miami Dolphins, so what's the big deal?

                              And I won't hammer the Packers' organization for extending a peace offering. Favre has been the face of the franchise for more than a decade, so why wouldn't the team want to maintain a friendly relationship?

                              In light of how ugly the feud between Favre and the Packers was getting, a monetary settlement might be the least objectionable compromise. Favre himself said as much when he told ESPN: "There isn't a perfect solution to this, but Mark Murphy is at least trying. We know what they want and where I stand. His solution, although awkward and unsettling for most, may be the best in the end."

                              The options for Favre and the Packers are limited.

                              Favre wants to be the starting quarterback for a contender, preferably either the Packers or the Minnesota Vikings. Few, if any other attractive options exist. Can you blame Favre if he doesn't want to get his brains beat in behind center for the New York Jets?

                              As for the Packers, they have designated Aaron Rodgers their starter. History will judge the wisdom of that decision, but in the meantime the Packers can't have Favre's long shadow looming over Rodgers. They also would be foolish to give Favre an opportunity to play for the Vikings, who are just a good quarterback away from becoming a bona fide Super Bowl contender.

                              In the end, it comes down to a business decision for both sides. Anyone wanting to make more out of it than that is either ignorant, arrogant or both.

                              Football is Big Business and in Big Business, all companies preach loyalty. But at the end of the day, the loyalty works only one way- from the employee to the employer and not vice versa. Any company will put your ass on the street if they feel they can get the same production with a younger and, more importantly, less expensive alternative and don't let anyone tell you differently. Doesn't matter if it is sports, finance, marketing.... It is a cold, hard lesson that is tough to swallow when you are put in the postion of having to swallow it with no other options.
                              Last edited by Three Jack; 08-02-2008, 09:50 PM.
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                              • Originally posted by BettorsChat
                                What are they worried about? I mean he isn't good enough to play for them anymore so who cares if he plays against your rival.
                                They must feel that Rodgers can do what Brett did last year. But I think we all would agree that Favre is a substantial upgrade over Tavaris Jackson.

                                And it isn't about playing just twice a year...they need to beat them over the course of a season because they are in the same division.
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