Red Sox take the lead in the Santana sweepstakes!!!

[The Lovedoc]

It would be such a good trade for the RedSox, they can't wait to get rid of Crisp, so basically they'd be upgrading from Lester to Johan. The Yankees would have to trade for Bedard or Haren to even have a chance and neither of those two is Johan. I still can't believe the RedSox wouldn't give up the little speedy white guy Ellsbury to make this trade happen, just because Ben Aflack has a green jersey with his name on the back. We're talking about Johan Santana the best pitcher in baseball, what the hell is Ellsbury gonna do, go first to third on a base hit, big deal?

I really doubt the twins accept that offer..... If Ellsbury has to be in that trade

Lester, Ellsbury,Lowrie, Masterson


They will still have a rotation of

Santana
Beckett
Dice K
Shilling
Buchholz


Thats fucking strong!!

[longnex]

I dont think Santana is the pitcher he used to be. His record last year was 15-13 only 2 games over .500. He gave up 33 homeruns which I believe led the league. Most major leaguers are just sitting on his change up.

[10DimeBry]

i dont want ellsbury to be traded. sox have enough pitching already. if they can get the deal done without ellsbury u have to do it.

[kbsooner21]

I dont think Santana is the pitcher he used to be. His record last year was 15-13 only 2 games over .500. He gave up 33 homeruns which I believe led the league. Most major leaguers are just sitting on his change up.

I agree 100%

[BigWeiner]

I dont think Santana is the pitcher he used to be. His record last year was 15-13 only 2 games over .500. He gave up 33 homeruns which I believe led the league. Most major leaguers are just sitting on his change up.

I disagree, he was dominating again last year. Basically the same amount of innings pitched and strikeouts, just gave up a few more runs. He got little run support. His last 4 years were ridiculous and he's only 28. I realize he's no Jake Ellsbury, who has potential to steal 30 bases, but he's pretty damn good.

[kbsooner21]

I disagree, he was dominating again last year. Basically the same amount of innings pitched and strikeouts, just gave up a few more runs. He got little run support. His last 4 years were ridiculous and he's only 28. I realize he's no Jake Ellsbury, who has potential to steal 30 bases, but he's pretty damn good.

He's on the decline big time imo

[10DimeBry]

He's on the decline big time imo but even still he is far better than....wood,prior Big Z combined.

i agree kb

[kbsooner21]

i agree kb

that was funny 2 years ago bro

[BigWeiner]

219 innings and 235 strikeouts with a 3.33 ERA and 1.07 WHIP in the American League, is declining. Who's on the upswing? He was better than Sabathia and Beckett in almost every category except wins, and the Twins were shitty offensively

[Chado1]

How the fuck is this off season baseball thread getting so many replies....unbelievable....like who gives a fuck about baseball when it ended TWO months ago and doesnt start again for another FOUR months?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!? And even when it does start I will be on the edge of my seat watching 1,069 games 7 days a week while falling asleep.....

[kbsooner21]

How the fuck is this off season baseball thread getting so many replies....unbelievable....like who gives a fuck about baseball when it ended TWO months ago and doesnt start again for another FOUR months?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Ice skating with a stick just isn't what it used to be

[BigWeiner]

How the fuck is this off season baseball thread getting so many replies....unbelievable....like who gives a fuck about baseball when it ended TWO months ago and doesnt start again for another FOUR months?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!? And even when it does start I will be on the edge of my seat watching 1,069 games 7 days a week while falling asleep.....

America's Pastime is year round

[longnex]

How the fuck is this off season baseball thread getting so many replies....unbelievable....like who gives a fuck about baseball when it ended TWO months ago and doesnt start again for another FOUR months?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!? And even when it does start I will be on the edge of my seat watching 1,069 games 7 days a week while falling asleep.....

Nobody asked you to come into this thread. Go play in the hockey forum. Oh thats right there isnt a hockey forum.

[Chado1]

BUMP!!!

I am sure Doc will be on any minute with some breaking OFF SEASON BASEBALL TRADE RUMOURS to keep you guys all warm and cosy until March of 2008....

LMAO!!!

[The Lovedoc]

Chado, my offseason baseball rumors gets more views and responses then your daily picks!!! LOL...

Dont you have a tin can to go and slap around!