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Dribbler,

Did you purchase plays from Wes Fisher before? The reason I ask is because every post you've made on the site is bashing him.

[Wes Fisher]

Sadly, he never has. He's been doing this since 2002. I've offered numerous free chances for him to check me out for himself, but he never has. Instead, he has found search results & monitoring which he believes is the 100% accurate truth & he's never given me a break. I'm sure he dislike me because I don't take shit from him too, but isn't it pitiful that all the crap from this guy & he's never once even tried my plays for free?

Wes

[Dribbler]

How do you know I haven't gotten your picks? You can't tell from the email address I sent you fool.

He started with the name calling way back when and not just toward me, toward others that know he's a fraud tout. So you're having a good week, good for you. I give you kudos for that. You still have about 12,000 units to make up though.

These are the last 3 posts from another forum - he suddenly stopped posting there after realizing I wasn't the only one on to his little game. That's why he found another forum to post his BS.



factchecker
Member posted 04 May 2003 09:17 PM
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Wes, I assure you Dribbler is NOT on a one man crusade...
You may be honest and all, but your picks are no good...

Go somewhere where you are wanted--we don't need anymore schmoes over here--there are plenty.

[This message has been edited by factchecker (edited 04 May 2003).]



LL149
Junior Member posted 04 May 2003 01:20 PM
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to be honest with you, I think you have lost your fucking mind for playing that many plays.


Dribbler1
Junior Member posted 04 May 2003 09:01 AM
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I hope you do win during the free week for everyone, that's what it's all about. However when I see you are down over 11,000 units since the beginning of the year, it raises questions.


If you see a discrepency between what I tell you & what a search at a monitoring site brings up, then I can assure you with 100% certainty that the reason is as simpleas my not being able to enter every play into the monitoring site. After all, that's how they monitor my plays. I have to take the time to enter them & I don't always have time to do that. I've been posting here since Dec. 2002

So basically what you are saying is that the plays you don't enter win? What is your total 2003 record then? I see over 11,000 units in the red and that is what a monitoring service is all about, to show how a handicapper is doing. You have an option at that site to purchase your plays. It looks like they come directly from the site so if that's the case, anyone who bought them is down a ton. Do you also send them the other plays that aren't monitored there? And when I said big words I meant big long posts like these 2 that take about 1/2 hour to read. You should spend more time capping instead of writing these long drawn out posts. And thanks for the namecalling. What are you 8 years old?

[Baseball_Nut]

BC

whats the redord for the longest thread

is this one the winner???:D

[Wes Fisher]

Originally posted by Dribbler
How do you know I haven't gotten your picks? You can't tell from the email address I sent you fool.

Easy Dribb, because you always question my records I post. If you ever got my plays or my e-mails, you'd know that what I give out is always exactly what I say. Even you, as mad as you are, wouldn't come on here & post daily records & point out how they're different from what I claim if you're seeing for yourself. Yes, I've been winning, but even if I wasn't, you'd still know I was honest. Either way, I don't see how you could be so angry if you ever dealt with me, so I assume you haven't. You've challenged the records, but you've never found your way to post one of my e-mails with the plays to prove your point. That's how I know. Truthfully, I really HOPE you're not getting my plays. As two-faced as you are, then if you were I wouldn't be surprised if you were actually making $ off them while bashing me here. You want to know what would bother me? THAT would bother me! The last thing I'd want is to help you in any way. Also, if you are getting my plays now, it must REALLY sting to not be playing them each night, waiting for me to get burned, while missing night after night of winners, huh?

And if I'm doing well right now, you think it's wrong to admit that? Instead, you tell everyone to avoid me because you ran a search? If I'm dishonest, fine! Your justified. If I lie or cheat, fine! Your justified. If you personally wish to avoid me, fine! But I don't think that makes you justified to harass me. Hypothetically, even if a Capper does lose, I think the way they conduct themselves with their clients should determine if they should be hung out to dry on the forums. Most people wouldn't make it their life to post abuse here, but then most peoplehave a life. I guess you're special that way.

These are the last 3 posts from another forum - he suddenly stopped posting there after realizing I wasn't the only one on to his little game. That's why he found another forum to post his BS.

Man, do you ever stop being full of it? Do I REALLY strike you as the type of person that avoids confrontation? Are you REALLY that ignorant? Buddy, I thrive on it. I'm having a blast now in this forum answering all the hate mails, while maintaining traffic & getting new clients. What on EARTH makes you think I stopped posting at the other forum. You wish! I just haven't had time to reply to every post & since this forum is more actve, HERE I AM! In fact, as soon as this week is over & I have time, I plan to paste most of the shit from this forum in THAT one, just to call out all the losers over there as well. Hell, I guarantee I'll include a direct link. Like I said before, even bashing helps build traffic & sends me new people. You bash. I call you an asshole. I keep winning. People try me out to see who's telling the truth. I keep winning. They win. They sign up. You bash. The circle of life my friend (or your "lack of" to be more accurate). In the big picture, the only loser in this little confrontational relationship of ours is you. I'm sorry you don't see that, but then again, I'm glad to have you around.

Can you ever be right about anything?

Wes

[Baseball_Nut]

I give this round to Wes

nice comeback:D

[Wes Fisher]

Re: BC

Originally posted by Baseball_Nut_2
whats the redord for the longest thread

is this one the winner???:D

I hope so, because my 17-5 NBA run just isn't enough to keep my interest. As long as I'm here, I figure I might as well win this too.

By the way, who was the guy who gave me an Over/Under on this forum of 3 days? Oops, another loser for you.

Seriously though, I could see getting bashed & slinking off into the shadows if it was legit, but it's not, so I'll be damned if a bunch of losers will get the best of me (not talking about you Nut, you've been civil). Besides, like I said before, even bad publicity is good publicity. As long as you guys are willing to keep it going, I'll be here.

Take care & good luck,
Wes

[Baseball_Nut]

what over/under loser:confused:

[Wes Fisher]

I swear I'm tired of typing, but I noticed 1-2 things ...

Originally posted by Dribbler
These are the last 3 posts from another forum - he suddenly stopped posting there after realizing I wasn't the only one on to his little game. That's why he found another forum to post his BS.

LL149
Junior Member posted 04 May 2003 01:20 PM
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to be honest with you, I think you have lost your fucking mind for playing that many plays.

Dribbler1
Junior Member posted 04 May 2003 09:01 AM
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1st, LL149 is Dribller1's butt buddy. As soon as Dribbbler1 posts over their, LL149 comes out to suck his ass.

2nd, I like how you say "check out what others are saying about this guy", but a word of advice ... the next time you quote what someone else is saying about me, it might be a good idea to not quote YOURSELF!

Are you drowning that bad or are you just so tired & full of shit that you don't even recognize your own posts anymore? Did you really think that your own post was someone sharing similar opinnions as you have? Remarkable how you guys think so much alike.

You tell us to check out what others are saying & you offer up your little brother & yourself. Man, how can I ever hope to compete with that?

So basically what you are saying is that the plays you don't enter win?

Never did. As usual, twisting everything to serve your purpose. I gave numerous examples of why monitoring isn't always accurate. One was that it doesn't necessarily contain every actualplay.

You have an option at that site to purchase your plays. It looks like they come directly from the site so if that's the case, anyone who bought them is down a ton.

Oops, once again wrong. You see, if you took the time to be informed before you spoke, this entire 10-pg. thread may have never even come to pass, but of course your motto is "shoot 1st, ask questions later". In reply, what's monitored has nothing to do with what plays are sold either. If I choose to, I can enter 20 plays the night before & then the next day, after handicapping the card down to my best plays, I can then choose to select the 4-5 very best plays & then put them into a package for sale. Since you mention it, even if my documented record is 5-15 for the day, it's still very possible that my clients may have gone 4-1 & shown a profit. To be fair, I could also show 10-2 & my clients may have gone 0-2. I've been trying to make this point for a long time, but you aren't paying attention. Even if monitoring shows that I won, it doesn't mean my clients actually won or the plays I sold won. If you can believe that, then why is it so hard to believe me when I tell you it works the other way too? It's a simple question.

Also, once again. I never say anything without offering proof. Here's the Toll-Free # at ProCappers.com. 1-888-435-2350. I don't own the site, run the site or answer the phones. If you have a question & don't want totake my word for it, go ask.

Do you also send them the other plays that aren't monitored there?

In short, yes. Of course. My clients get every play that's intended for the particular package they've purchased, regardless of what's entered for monitoring. That's an entirely seperate issue & has nothing to do with what I actually sell. See, this is why I always reply. It's easy to explain if you take a moment to actually ask. I know you're still being sarcastic, but if you ever really needed an answer & cared about getting one, all you had to do is e-mail me & I would have helped. Instead, you bash. In response, there are two types of sales I can make. 1) Subscription Clients. These people make up 90% of my business & 100% of my e-mailed plays. They are always my 1st Priority. Even if I don't get a chance to enter every play for monitoring, my Subscription Clients will always get everything, because e-mailing them the plays is the first thing I do. 2) ProCappers.com Clients. These make up the remaining 10% & these sales are generally just small daily packages. Remember when I said I can put 20 into the system & then narrow it down to my best 4-5? Well, those are usually what I sell at ProCappers. So again, win or lose on monitored results, that doesn't mean that was what I sold at ProCappers.com or how my clients did. The sooner you understand how things actually work in this business, the sooner you'll start to finally believe when I tell you to trust your own firsthand results instead of monitored records.

Does telling you to trust your own experience vs. monitoring sound like an excuse? Dude, you've been programmed all wrong witth some bad habits & some bad knowledge. I'm trying to help.
There are a lot of idiots who ride that little yellow bus. Why don't you step off?

People buy what they want to buy. Some want every play for an entire month. Some just want a 3 game NBA package for 1 particular night. Results vary for each person, but anytime I make a claim of a winning record, I go by only 1 thing: I go by the record of all the plays that I ACTUALLY e-mailed to my subscription clients at that time. They are the REAL & ACTUAL plays that are being recommended & wagered on. They are the only plays that really count.

Wes

[Wes Fisher]

Originally posted by Baseball_Nut_2
what over/under loser:confused:

Hold on their chief. I wasn't talking about you. I know it wasn't you who said it. That's why I ASKED "who was the guy who gave me the Over/Under". I didn't feel like going though the entire thread to try & find it. I have no problems with you at all & would prefer to keep it that way. My heart just couldn't handle another enemy on this forum.

Sorry forthe misunderstanding.

Wes

[Baseball_Nut]

i know it wasnt me

i did not call you a loser

i meant which over/under that lost

whci over/under loser

[wayne1218]

is this EVER going to FUCKEN end? Wes i would like to think your doing this for FREE advertising but in your business these threads will not get you customers.....will it?


LET IT FUCKEN GO MAN!

[Wes Fisher]

Originally posted by Baseball_Nut_2
i know it wasnt me

i did not call you a loser

i meant which over/under that lost

whci over/under loser

Ah, then the misunderstanding was mine. My apologies. I thought youthought I was referring to you & when you said "which over / under loser?" You meant "which over/under?" "LOSER!"

Too funny.

Someone posted that he thought it was funny all the shit you guys were giving me. He said he gave an Over/Under of 3 days for me lasting on this forum. I didn't remember who, I just know I didn't feel like digging through all the crap (including myown) to find it.

W.

(see, I'm even too tired to type my full first name anymore. Oh Christ, but I typed this entire sentence to explain why I didn't type the 2 extra letters. Aaaaargghh! If there was ever a signal to get back to work & stop playing that's it. Take care!)

[Wes Fisher]

Originally posted by wayne1218
is this EVER going to FUCKEN end? Wes i would like to think your doing this for FREE advertising but in your business these threads will not get you customers.....will it?


LET IT FUCKEN GO MAN!

Wayne,
MY MAN! How you been? How's the missus? Good. The kids? Super. Work treating you okay? Awesome.

I like you Wayne, but if you're reading it, you're a part of it. Don't shoot the messenger, baby. If you take the time to say something, it would be RUDE of me not to reply. You want peace? Quit reading! Better yet, Quit posting! Do you have a thread or post somewhere? I WOULDN'T KNOW!! That's a hint. I don't come into your thread because I'm not interested making a visit. Stop already. To quote a famous person I once knew ...

LET IT FUCKEN GO MAN!

If everyone would let old Wes be the legit Capper he always proves himself to be instead of hatin' all the time, I can get on with my business, you can get on with your lives. When that happens, there will be peace, love & harmony yet again in your peaceful little forum.

Wes

[Baseball_Nut]

in case anybody cares

i once had sex with sisters in the same night

and they made out afterwards - they were drunk


:D