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[Baseball_Nut]

wes

the type of work you do is hard i will admit

I have a good friend that runs a service out of the montreal area, and it is fucken hard shit - - always getting calls either people praising you or chopping your head off why sammy Sosa went 0-4 with 3 strikeouts

I have no problem, good luck and am glad your having a good run


i have to go cut my hair, and maybe get a lap dance on the way back

later

nut


wayne gets upset cause MVP Cappers fucked him and other over BIGTIME


good luck Wes and hit your man in the teeth

da_nut:D

[Wes Fisher]

Originally posted by PhilJr
Yes, you are going too fast for me. See, I never graduated college and I must be dumb. All I do is listen to the cappers here along with my plays and make money. You are right, monitoring isn't 100% accurate. You can turn your stats any way you want. You are right, you do have a full day of handicapping in front of you. Spend your time doing that and try to keep your current customers happy. You never did answer the comp play question. Try to keep it to 1000 words or less.

Just trying to answer everyone. Your post is civil, so let me just say that if there's 1 person I owe an apology to for this morning's battle, it's you. Sorry. Maybe Baseball_Nut_2 too. Sorry, Nut.

That freaking novel of mine took hours to think out & write. If it showed anger, it was only to 1 person. I was as honest as I could possibly be & I made a huge effort to explain why monitoring doesn't necessarily equate to accuracy. I didn't want to make excuses, but just explain why it's possible to still win despite what a monitoring site shows. Ultimately, I said that there was no substitute for firsthand experience. To be honest, I hoped I'd at least get some degree of appreciation for showing I cared enough about what people think to take that much time to offer an explanation. Then the first post I came across was yours, & frankly it just sounded like someone else joining in on the abuse. If you can put yourself in my shoes & understand that I was very tired, perhaps you can understand the reason for my sarcasm?

That's it. Again, sorry. You seem like a decent guy. In regard to your comp question, you asked if what I was offering wasn't the same as what everyone else is doing on this forum anyway? If it, that's fine, but I didn't know that. I see a section that applied to Sports Services, so I posted an offer for a Free Week to prove myself. I didn't even look in any other Service's posts. If I did, I expect I would have found Sales Pitches, Single Comps & rates for service. That's what you usually see. Anyway, that isn't the way I do business & I don't usually check out the competition at the forums. So if I am doing the exact same thing, that's fine isn't it? If they're giving the plays away for free, then so am I. The only difference is that I prefer to do it through e-mail because it's easier for me & saves time.

I hope that was the answer you were looking for.

W.

[Wes Fisher]

Re: wes

Originally posted by Baseball_Nut_2
the type of work you do is hard i will admit

I have a good friend that runs a service out of the montreal area, and it is fucken hard shit - - always getting calls either people praising you or chopping your head off why sammy Sosa went 0-4 with 3 strikeouts

I have no problem, good luck and am glad your having a good run


i have to go cut my hair, and maybe get a lap dance on the way back

later

nut


wayne gets upset cause MVP Cappers fucked him and other over BIGTIME


good luck Wes and hit your man in the teeth

da_nut:D

I made an apology to PhilJr, now it's your turn. I've changed my opinion of you, so sorry for being rude. Man Nut, I gotta tell you, I didn't sign on for this shit! All I did was offer a Free Week of plays & then I stopped by to recap my record each night. I was thrilled that this site seemed to be clean & without all the abuse you normally see. Then one guy makes a claim about my record that isn't 100% accurate. I don't like to give airtime & would prefer to ignore him, but the thing is, if you don't defend yourself when someone posts an attack on your integrity, then that lack of reply has a nasty habit of being perceived as an acceptance of guilt. Don't reply & people think it's true, reply & run the risk of inciting the wrath of the wolfpack. Damned if you do, damned if you don't, but hey, I'm the kind of guy that doesn't run from confrontation. If you come at me flinging accusations, you better be prepared to back them up. Just read my lengthy replies. Somewhere in there, I certainly show that I can come equipped with ammo to defend myself. Screw he-said-she-said, I provide Toll-Free #s & shit.

Take care,
W.

P.S.- For the record, this is my last post in battle mode unless someone wants to make a comment that needs a reply. I'm just plain freakin' tired. No, i'm not with MVP or any of the names you guys ran off. If you've been burned in the past, sorry. That wasn't me. I've been a Professional Gambler for 25 years, but I've been a Professional Sports Service for just over 5 months. I didn't just open up my own site & proclaim myself a handicapper. I earned my way into the Professional Handicappers League by winning a worldwide NCAA Football Handicapping Contest, so yes I do know how to win. That's how I got here. So far, I'm still learning this aspect of this business. I had a winning December, a HUGE winning February where I beat out all 30+ Cappers at ProCappers.com & right now, I'm having a near flawless start to May. In between, I admittedly had a horrible January & smaller losing months in March & April. How's that, for honesty? So far, I've gone back & forth a bit getting the hang of my secondary sports, but my 2 best sports are MLB (which has a lot to do with why I'm doing so well right now) & my very best sport is NCAA Football, which I can't prove officially until the next season rolls around, but as an amateur that's the sport that got me to where I am today. I may have ahd my ups & downs the past few months, but I'll prove myself in MLB & once NCAA Football rolls around again, I will thoroughly crush 99% of the Cappers on the Planet. So, there it is. That's me. You guys decide if you're going to cut me some slack & let me do business here.

Peace.

[Dribbler]

but my 2 best sports are MLB (which has a lot to do with why I'm doing so well right now) & my very best sport is NCAA Football

Maybe college football is your best sport but MLB certainly isn't. I was done with you until I saw that comment - you are barely hitting 50% on sides when you bet mostly favorites.

Wes Fisher Sports mlb 289 141 148 48.8 % -4442 Combined

Wes Fisher Sports mlb 176 90 86 51.1 % -2722 Sides

Wes Fisher Sports mlb 113 51 62 45.1 % -1720 Totals

[knowlez]

wes dont feed us full of shit you know more about taking care of a goat then picking ballgames

[wayne1218]

Dribbler

You are the man.....and hilarious!

[BettorsChat]

Wes Fisher,

You send me the plays for a week and I will grade them then come back to tell everyone how you did. I don't hide anything and never have. The conduct that you mention is this forum only and not my other forums on this site. This site is based on high integrity and a lot of good people posting behind it. A lot of them just don't like services for various reasons.

[Wes Fisher]

Originally posted by Dribbler


Maybe college football is your best sport but MLB certainly isn't. I was done with you until I saw that comment - you are barely hitting 50% on sides when you bet mostly favorites.

Wes Fisher Sports mlb 289 141 148 48.8 % -4442 Combined

Wes Fisher Sports mlb 176 90 86 51.1 % -2722 Sides

Wes Fisher Sports mlb 113 51 62 45.1 % -1720 Totals

For the record jerkoff,
I had even more people sign up for plays this morning after all the angry e-mails & I won again tonight. That's 7 winning days in the L8. So not all of you, but just the real cocksuckers like Dribbler & Knowlez, you know what you can do. I imagine that some of the people who signed up this morning was you guys trying to find out if I'm full of shit or not. Well, I don't imagine you'll be able to say anything bad firsthand yet again. Just so those people know that what I post is "EXACTLY" what you received, here's the current record ...

Our record the past 8 days ...

+235 04-28 Total for $60-$100 bettor, Record = 5-2 (71%)
+171 04-29 Total for $60-$100 bettor, Record = 7-5-2 (58%)
+190 04-30 Total for $60-$100 bettor, Record = 5-4 (56%)
+079 05-01 Total for $60-$100 bettor, Record = 11-9 (58%)
+080 05-02 Total for $60-$100 bettor, Record = 6-3 (67%)
- 189 05-03 Total for $60-$100 bettor, Record = 5-6 (46%)
+250 05-04 Total for $60-$100 bettor, Record = 3-1 (75%)
+081 05-05 Total for $60-$100 bettor, Record = 5-4 (56%)
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+897 8-day Total for $60-$100 bettor, Record = 47-34-2 (58%)


To Knowlez, is that pronounced know-less? If so, it certainly fits. Also, I'm not sure if anyone else finds it disturbing or not, but your obsession with goat cocks is a little weird. Maybe when you & Dribbler quit spreading your crap & buttfucking each other, you'll actually have time to ask your mom about goat cock. As I said before, that's likely how you were conceived, so you might want to go to the source.

Finally, Dribbler1, you little punk, you were actually going to leave ME alone? Bring it on faggot, I eat pussy like you for breakfast. What cracks me up is you guys think you're hurting my feelings? Let me break this to you, I continue to win. I continue to sign up new clients. I even get e-mails from people who think you're the prick, not me.

You know the old saying about even bad advertising being good advertising? You guys are drawing 100s of people into this post for me. I keep showing my winning record & I keep posting winning nights. Some people are tring me out because they ligitimately want to see if I'm winning, some people try me out because they hate me & can't wait to prove me wrong. Dude, that's totally cool with me. The only liar here is you. They can come to me for whatever reason they want, as long as they try me out. Until one of you, just 1 tiny little one of you, can post one of my e-mails that shows different results then what I'm claiming, I'll continue to get business.

Do I care about what you think? Any of you? Hell no. I don't let this shit bother me. You guys are a lost cause to me anyway, so no matter what I say or do, it's not like you'llever become clients anyway, so why the fu*k would I carea rats ass what you think.

You think you're hurting me? Look at all the traffic in this post Dribbler1. This is the greatest promotion I've run in the last 3 months & I have you guys to thank. I got e-mails signing upfor my plays within 30 minutes of all the crap that went down this morning. I have you guys to thank, you're just too fucking stupid to realize that you're actually helping me out. So keep the traffic coming dipshits.

Wes

P.S.- Hey Dribbler & Goatcock boy, if you give me your e-mail addresses, I'll actually take the timeto e-mail you BEFORE I run my next promotion. If you can promise me this kind of traffic every time, I'll actually give you a heads up. Let me know if that's cool?

[Wes Fisher]

Originally posted by Dribbler


Maybe college football is your best sport but MLB certainly isn't. I was done with you until I saw that comment - you are barely hitting 50% on sides when you bet mostly favorites.

By the way, you actually are willing to admit to the possibility that I know CFB? Funny, but you actually posted that I gave you 33 plays in 1 day as part of a sales promotion. You also said that I couldn't win releasing that many plays. You made it sound as if you actually witnessed me releasing the plays firsthand & losing, but you were only witnessing me crushing nearly 2,000 other contestants in a Net Unit contest, which not only proved I was winning BIG, but that I was also winning releasing a ton of plays. So Iask you, what credibility do you have? Seriously.

And the MLB record? I've given you every opportunity to witness my plays firsthand. I've even challenged you on every forum to do it. I've called YOU out & you've never taken me up on my offer. I don't want you as a client & I'd NEVER accept your $ even if you begged me to. I just want you to be a man a realize that you could be wrong. If so, then you should shut up. Once again, you can post all the monitoring records you want, as I've already expalined that monitoring should be a last resort. I claim that you should witness the plays firsthand. Do you think I'm taking the easy way out? Hell no! You're the one taking the easy way out by not backing up what you claim is going on.

People on this forum are winning from me right now. I know they are reading these posts & they may not want to get involved, but I know they're there & that they're seeing my plays firsthand. I keep posting winning days almost every day. You keep showing monitor records that say I'm not winning. You know why people keep signing up? Becuase they aren't stupid like you. They know youcan't trust a sports monitor, but you can certainly believe your own eyes. You won't do it, because you would have to admit you're wrong & that scares the crap out of you. The you'd have nothing to do with your time.

To be honest, for all I know, you have been receiving my plays all this time. If so, you're just not man enough to admit the results.

[Wes Fisher]

Originally posted by BettorsChat
Wes Fisher,

You send me the plays for a week and I will grade them then come back to tell everyone how you did. I don't hide anything and never have. The conduct that you mention is this forum only and not my other forums on this site. This site is based on high integrity and a lot of good people posting behind it. A lot of them just don't like services for various reasons.

That's fine. You have the full week, but do me a favor. If you need to reach me again, e-mail me. After my promotion is over, I have no need to play with these guys other than to stop back by & see if any of them have the decency to admit that I may actually win for my clients after all. I doubt they will though. You say they are good guys, well I've actually met a few like Baseball_Nut_2 & PhilJr, but the rest? Most of these guys would rather keep pissing straight into a stuiff wind then admit that it would be better to piss the other way.

Also, you've now already received my first night's plays. I'm not asking you to grade the plays. I'm asking you to confirm if the results I post are accurate with what you received. If you want to grade the plays, that's fine, but make sure that you grade using the same lines & the same ratings / wager amounts. If I rate a play as a $60 wager & you grade it at $100, then that doesn't solve anything. My point is to prove that when I post a record & results, that it's EXACTLY what my clients actually received.

Anyway, I'll e-mail this to you as well. See you in a week.

Wes

[Wes Fisher]

Re: Wes

Originally posted by Baseball_Nut_2
who do you like tonight in the Lakers /Spurs game
:D

By the way Nut, not stopping by to brag or anything. You asked my opinion on this game earlier. I told you I didn't know who I'd go with yet, but my lean was to the Spurs. Well, if I had your e-mail, I would've been happy to send you my later thoughts on the game. For the record, I ended up with a Top Play on the Spurs, so as K. Costner said in Tin Cup, I nutted it (pardon the pun). I hope you did too.

Wes

[Dribbler]

And the MLB record? I've given you every opportunity to witness my plays firsthand. I've even challenged you on every forum to do it. I've called YOU out & you've never taken me up on my offer.

No thanks - with you down over 4400 units in baseball this year, I'll pass.

Once again, you can post all the monitoring records you want, as I've already expalined that monitoring should be a last resort.

You wrote a 10,000 word essay to try and weasel your way our of your pathetic record. As much as you want to think differently, monitored records don't lie if you entered the picks. If they don't monitor your plays the way you like it, find one that does. They will all result in an under 50% record though. You are simply an awaful capper, plain and simple.

[knowlez]

LES THE GOAT FUCKER HES ARE MAN HE FUCKS GOATS AS HARD AS HE CAN. PRETTY EASY TO PICK A GAME AFTER ITS OVER DUMB ASS :angryfire

[Wes Fisher]

I assume you guys trust this site's moderator, right? Hell, even he signed up for my Free Week promotion. He also promised to post an unbiased report on his experience for you guys. Am I afraid, hell no.

But please PLEASE PLEASE do me a favor. I came here expecting a ton of posts. One from Dribbler1 & one form Knowlez? C'mon guys. Help me out here.

You dipshits, you're so funny. At first, I was really angry wioth you guys, but then something happened. I kept getting more & more e-mails from people wanting to try my plays. I have you to thank. I'm sure many asked just hoping to prove I lost, but like I said before, that's fine. I also imagine there are 100s if not 1,000s of people who see this forum & possibly this post daily. Many are gamblers looking for help & I doubt they are members of the forum. I'm also sure that even if they were, that there are a lot of people who prefer not to get involved, but I truly can't believe how much business you guys have given me. Every time you make a post, you move me back to the forefront.

Frankly, I'm dissapointed at the dropoff. Anyway, you guys keeping talking about monitored this or monitored that, but feel free to keep talking. If you need incentive, then fuck you, screw you, yada yada yada.

Dribbler1, you've been gunning for me since 2002 & in all that time, even you have to admit that you have not ONCE seen a single post from an actual client putting me down. You know it, I know it. I think you're misinformed, but I actually don't think your a flatout liar, so I don't think you'll say you have. It kind of makes you think doesn't it? All those shit cappers & scam artists out there & you've never seen anyone post that crap about me? Have I lost? Sure, who hasn't, but I've always been 100% honest & professional with my clients, so I never get the hate posts.

By the way, when I challenge you to prove I'm losing, I don't want you to bet the plays, so quit whining about the documented records. Hell, if you bet my plays, you'd actually win & I'd rather not do anything for your undeserving ass. I just wanted you to see the proof. But you keep turning me down, because your a little yellow, pissant. Keep quoting records, I'll keep posting winning days. I'm supplying real proof every day. Even when I lose, I post the actual record. I'm really sorry you have it plastered in your mind that monitoring means everything. But you know what, I know that if I had a monitored record that ddin't serve your purpose, you'd then tell me that monitoring doesn't mean anything. It's what you actually do that matters. You know it, I know it & judging from the lack of support you're now getting in this forum, everyone else knows it. They've seen me challenge you for proof & they've seen me offer prooof for anyone willing to take a look. You've failed, so you lost your support. I'm sending them the plays, so every winning night for meis one less angry post in support of you. Notice how quiet it's getting in here?

Hey Knowlez, still on the goat thing, huh? Funny, but other than your circle-jerk buddy, I doubt you have a friend on this forum. You're a no-class redneck retard, probably about 13 years old & without a dime to your name to bet with anyway. I've never met a bigger pussy anywhere. So, I win because I release the plays AFTER they go final? Is that what it's come to now? That's all the ammo you have left? Man, I can't even curse at you anymore. I just feel sorry for you.

By the way, I'd love to tell you I lost tonight ....

I didn't. Here's tonight's line ....

+306 05-06 Total for $60-$100 bettor, Record = 8-5 (62%)

and here's my actual client record going all the way back into late April ....

+235 04-28 Total for $60-$100 bettor, Record = 5-2 (71%)
+171 04-29 Total for $60-$100 bettor, Record = 7-5-2 (58%)
+190 04-30 Total for $60-$100 bettor, Record = 5-4 (56%)
+079 05-01 Total for $60-$100 bettor, Record = 11-9 (58%)
+080 05-02 Total for $60-$100 bettor, Record = 6-3 (67%)
-189 05-03 Total for $60-$100 bettor, Record = 5-6 (46%)
+250 05-04 Total for $60-$100 bettor, Record = 3-1 (75%)
+081 05-05 Total for $60-$100 bettor, Record = 5-4 (56%)
+306 05-06 Total for $60-$100 bettor, Record = 8-5 (62%)
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+1,203 9-day Total for $60-$100 bettor, Record = 55-39-2 (59%)

For anyone interested, there are still 2 days left to hop on board.

Thanks & Good Luck to all,
Wes F.
Wes Fisher Sports - ... Helping You Land the Big Winners!
E-mail: [email protected]
Phone: (703) 262-0254, 2-9 PM EST

[Wes Fisher]

By the way, one last post to let you two know that I'll still keep calling you names & trading insults with you guys. Anything to help traffic to my post, but you're not worth the time it takes to go 4 pages back just to reply. Since noone's posting in here anymore except you two, feel free to keep talking among yourselves. I'll take the exposure, but if you want to reach me, I'm starting a new thread.

Note: Yes, I'm actually inviting you guys. I don't think you believe me when I tell you that you're helping me out by bringing traffic & new clients my way, but I assure you this isn't some type of reverse psychology to get you to stop. If I was worried you'd stop, I'd keep quiet. The truth is, you two are so ignorant, I'm betting that even if I tell you flatout to your face that you're actually helping me & even if you believe me, you're too stupid to
stop anyway. You both type before you think, so I'm sure I'll enjoy your continued comments.

By the way Dribbler1, I hope we can keep this going for some time. You just keep on losin' & I'll make it a point to keep on winning just to piss you off.

Wes