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  • #31
    Originally posted by BettorsChat View Post
    If you're talking about prostitution that is a completely different area. I'm sure most States have laws regarding that.

    If you're referring to rings of people that have been arrested about gambling it was, because they were taking bets etc.
    Your point is well taken.
    Ok-lets put it this way then:
    If what you and others say that it is illegal for offshores to accept bets on line but not illegal for bettors to bet, it sure as heck isn't spelled out anywhere in any laws that I know of-that is merely an assumption and the reason for much of the confusion.
    Most politicians and legislators for obvious reasons would rather leave it that way rather than risk their political careers by introducing and/or voting fo legislation which directly addresses the issue.
    Until/if something is done in this area, gamblers will remain in the dark as to whether they are really doing something wrong or not, and most will probably contiinue to gamble with the attitude of "no one has told me I can't gamble on line."
    I think at this point if the state or federal govt. really wanted to scare online gamblers away, all they would have to do would be to conduct a sting operation and catch some bettors betting on line and arrest and/or try to fine them them(in this day and age finding them would be easy with the sophisticated equipment at their disposal).
    Again as stated above for many reasons including political ones, it is obvious that they don't want to go in this direction.
    The more I think about it, the more I can see that since prostititution is illegal probably everywhere other than in some counties in Vegas , it is easier for police and other govt. officials to arrest/prosecute the customers as well as the prostitutes than it is in the case of online bettors.
    Therefore, I take back what I said initially about arresting/prosecuting johns as opposed to doing the same with on line bettors.
    ps I continue to believe that eventually this will all be resolved when/if govt. can get its fair share of any revemues derived from this form of betting.
    Last edited by savage1; 06-04-2011, 10:00 AM.

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    • #32
      Like I said there is a Prominent Lawyer that stated that it was not Illegal to bet online. It was only Illegal to accept wagers online. I can't remember the Lawyers name. It's on his site, but I can't remember his name.

      As for Politicians worrying about their career that is stupid as most of them are voting for expansion of gambling in his or her States, because they need the jobs and income.

      If there was any time to vote and not worry about your career it would be now. Remember this bill was attached to the Port Security bill by then Senator Frist who was on his way out, because he was a crook. Many politicians (mostly Democrats) stood up and said this bill about gambling had nothing to do with the Port Security issue. And my stance on that is that no bill should be able to be attached to a bill that has nothing to do with that bill.

      At the time of the attachment Frist was negotiating the sell of the Casino the Hyatt I believe and when the bill passed the people buying the Casino had to pay $1 billion more for it. As the stock price of that company shot up while the stocks on the Overseas went downward big time.

      In September 2006, working with Arizona Senator Jon Kyl, Frist was a major Senate supporter of H.R. 4411 — the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006. Frist's bill called for restrictions on banking transactions for online gambling, while Frist has received contributions from land-based casinos. The bill, which passed without debate as part of the SAFE Port Act, also allowed horse racing and lotteries to remain legal.

      Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act (UIGEA)
      At the last minute before Congress adjourned for the 2006 elections in what politicos call a “midnight drop” Majority Leader Bill Frist inserted the otherwise unpassable "Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act" (UIGEA) clauses into the bigger unrelated Security and Accountability for Every Port (SAFE) Act. The SAFE Act itself was a late “must pass” bill, designed to safeguard ports from terrorist infiltration. [28] This act clearly opposed majority public opinion. In the Zogby International Poll 87% believe online gambling is a personal choice which should not be banned. The Wall Street Journal Poll showed 85% oppose government prohibition of online gambling.[29] The UIGEA became the basis for the massively unpopular government crackdown and domain name seizure of the worlds top three online poker sites dubbed "black Friday" on April 15, 2011.[30]

      Medical school experiments
      While he was a medical school student in the 1970s, Frist performed medical experiments on shelter cats while researching the use of drugs on the mitral valve. By his own account, Frist improperly obtained these cats from Boston animal shelters, falsely telling shelter staff he was adopting the cats as pets.[34] In his book, Frist asserted that he succumbed to the pressure to succeed in a highly competitive medical school.
      Frist's treatment of cats first became controversial in 1994, in his first Senate campaign, when the opposing camp in the Republican primary called him a cat-killer. The matter again created public controversy in 2002, after mention in a Boston Globe profile, published after his election as Senate majority leader.[35][36]

      Kaz sick him!

      Bill Frist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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      • #33
        Oklahoma City police officer charged with violating state anti-gambling law | NewsOK.com

        If online gambling is not illegal someone forgot to tell the Oklahoma attorney general. Oklahoma has an anti-gambling law and another statute in the criminal code that says it's illegal to use a computer to break the law.

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        • #34
          I don't believe this is the same as using a sponsored site from bettorschat. Many of the locals around here pay for a basic site so that their customers can place their wagers without having to call for lines and be bothered 24/7. The accounts are refreshed each week with that persons weekly limit set as the amount in the account, at the end of the week they settle up for the amount above or below the starting value. To me, this is why it really doesn't fall under online gambling, because it isn't the online part that is illegal it is the actual booking in the state that is illegal.
          Let's Hammer the Book.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by garth View Post
            Oklahoma City police officer charged with violating state anti-gambling law | NewsOK.com

            If online gambling is not illegal someone forgot to tell the Oklahoma attorney general. Oklahoma has an anti-gambling law and another statute in the criminal code that says it's illegal to use a computer to break the law.
            United States

            Under US federal law, gambling is legal in the United States, and states are free to regulate or prohibit the practice. Gambling has been legal in Nevada since 1931, forming the backbone of the state's economy, and the city of Las Vegas is perhaps the best known gambling destination in the world. In 1976, gambling was legalized in Atlantic City, New Jersey, and in 1990, it was legalized in Tunica, Mississippi; both of those cities have developed extensive casino and resort areas since then. Since a favorable U.S. Supreme Court decision in 1987, many Native American tribes have built their own casinos on tribal lands as a way to provide revenue for the tribe. Because the tribes are considered sovereign nations, they are often exempt from state laws restricting gambling, and are instead regulated under federal law. Additionally, almost all states have legalized gambling in the form of a state-run lottery and most states allow for limited non-profit organizations to host Bingo nights.

            Internet Gaming Coming Back to the U.S.? Internet Gaming Coming Back to the U.S.?

            PartyPoker Bets $105 Million on Return to U.S. PartyPoker Bets $105 Million on Return to U.S.

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