proof that Michael Moore is a Fuckin loser!!!!!

[savage1]

I would generally agree....but he has opened himself up to whatever he is gving...I used to tolerate his shit and be civil and then he told me how fucked up my religious beliefs are...So what is more wrong???

And is it really his wife??? Does he still have the receipt to prove it???

I never used the word "fucked up" to describe your religious beliefs.
I did question them and with good reason because YOU and NOT Initially described yourself as a devout catholic, and was clearly trying to get you to say that what you practice and what you preach are not one in the same.
You were trying to offer in response to something I said which contended that religious ladies didn't have the same mindset as none religious ladies.
You said you dated religious ladies, etc. and I called into question your reference to yourself as a devout Catholic, which you have in essence admitted you are not.
I think terms and definitions have to be clear before an intelligent discussion can ensue about something.

[CheechB03]

guys like savage can not handle that....he can not stand to be judged by a well informed female

I agree 100%

A well informed female that won't succumb to his bullying. A well informed female that'll voice her own opinions if they differ from his. And stick to her opinions.

[bover1]

Can We Get Lovedoc 2 Lock Down This Shit Ass Thread Thanks...

[CheechB03]

You said you dated religious ladies, etc. and I called into question your reference to yourself as a devout Catholic, which you have in essence admitted you are not.

Let's just say there's lots of truth about the girls that go to an all-girl catholic school. It's not a myth. More often they are more wild than 'public school' girls.

[savage1]

Boy you guys REALLY DO NOT have a clue about my wife thats for sure.
She is strong willed, direct and anything but meek.
If I am out of place, she says so to my face, and believe me every minute of every day is not total bliss.
Fortunately, we both have a strong sense of religion, spirituality and purpose in life an by the end of the day, we realize that our love for one another has not changed, and that all relationships have their ups and downs.

[10DimeBry]

this could be my favorite post of all time by Savage1:

savage1,

"The relationship with my former friend goes back at least 25+ years.
We were good personal friends through work, and actually he was my gambling buddy also.
Up until the time we broke off our friendship. our discussions rarely centered around politics-it was mostly about gambling and other things in life.
It was just in the 6 months or so leading up to the breakup that he became too arrogant and vocal and tried to get my change over to his Republican way of thinking while knocking ALL democrats and their thinking.
I am better off without him, and I am sure he probably doesn't miss me either.
From my point of view, I outgrew him
On a brighter note, married life is great. She is a great lady and has all the qualities I want in a lady.
We both care deeply for one another.
Thanks for asking."


LMAO

[TwoTonTony]

I never used the word "fucked up" to describe your religious beliefs.
I did question them and with good reason because YOU and NOT Initially described yourself as a devout catholic, and was clearly trying to get you to say that what you practice and what you preach are not one in the same.
You were trying to offer in response to something I said which contended that religious ladies didn't have the same mindset as none religious ladies.
You said you dated religious ladies, etc. and I called into question your reference to yourself as a devout Catholic, which you have in essence admitted you are not.
I think terms and definitions have to be clear before an intelligent discussion can ensue about something.

exactly.........you are a devious little man......hanging your hat on one word......I dated a DEVOUT catholic for 4 years and she was my best friend....But we had no intimacy....So she became a friend......Like frank says we are humans and as males have needs.....This cost her the relationship

You are a very very very narrow minded judgemental person, who lives a sheltered existance......

Please do not comment on things you have no expertise on......You live life on the sidelines....I am in the fight daily bro!!!

I want a women who believes in God, but still likes sex......and there are plenty out there......

I agree with frank...you like them uninformed so you can mold them.....

Just reading your posts have proven that you are wrapped way too tight and can not handle anyone having a different opinion than you......

If i were to guess i would say you are a little man....I think a diagnosis of "Napoleans Complex" may be in order.....

If i am wrong and you are tall enough to ride the bumper cars then i apologize in advance.....

[savage1]

Me? I love American women. I love their independence. I love their ability to know what they want. I love they are not afraid to speak their minds. I love their sexual freedom. They are no longer constrained by hypocritical morals. It was OK for guys to fuck everything in sight but the women was expected to be a virgin. What a joke?

That being said. I love all women.

If you personally are not religious yourself, and believe what is said in bible has no relevance TODAY, then I can understand where you are coming from.

[TwoTonTony]

Let's just say there's lots of truth about the girls that go to an all-girl catholic school. It's not a myth. More often they are more wild than 'public school' girls.

110% correct.....also the ones whose parents are too strict when they are in high school turn into cock hungry college chicks.....

It is better to let people live and experience with guidance of course than to withhold things from them.....it always backfires.....and it does not teach them anything about making good decisions in life.....

boy, i used to love those chicks

[CheechB03]

If you personally are not religious yourself, and believe what is said in bible has no relevance TODAY, then I can understand where you are coming from.

The bible has no relevance TODAY. It was written 1000s of years ago. It has no bearing how life is lived today. Proof that the bible and other religous writing have no relevance look at the Muslim religion.

[savage1]

exactly.........you are a devious little man......hanging your hat on one word......I dated a DEVOUT catholic for 4 years and she was my best friend....But we had no intimacy....So she became a friend......Like frank says we are humans and as males have needs.....This cost her the relationship

You are a very very very narrow minded judgemental person, who lives a sheltered existance......

Please do not comment on things you have no expertise on......You live life on the sidelines....I am in the fight daily bro!!!

I want a women who believes in God, but still likes sex......and there are plenty out there......

I agree with frank...you like them uninformed so you can mold them.....

Just reading your posts have proven that you are wrapped way too tight and can not handle anyone having a different opinion than you......

If i were to guess i would say you are a little man....I think a diagnosis of "Napoleans Complex" may be in order.....

If i am wrong and you are tall enough to ride the bumper cars then i apologize in advance.....

Just remember if YOU hadn't used the word devout in the first place, this argument would not have ensued.
No one said you wouldn't respect a woman who wouldn't have sex such as the catholic lady.
However, no matter how much you claim to to be "in the fight daily"(an interesting choice of words in an area which for me anyways was to find a mate), you will never convince me that you have more knowledge tham I when it comes to talking about the mindset of anyone in their fifties and sixties.
I am not going to elaborate/list the reasons again.
Believe it or don't believe it;that is your choice.
Your approach works for the short term type of relationships you want with the mindset of the values of the women you seek.
My values are different than yours as is the kind of lady whom I would want(marriage);thus it is just simple logic that many of my type of ladieswould not go for the so-called proven techniques(which for the most part are designed to get a lady to sleep with you).
I don't know everything about women of the type of woman YOU seek;juding by the sex without commitment many I have, I don't care to know.
YOu don't know much about what makes tick the selective women I would want;thats it in a nutshell.
You are by most definitions a playboy for lack of a better term and don't want to settle down as I do/did.
You said so yourself;its not bad;its just what YOU want.
You are attracted to certain types of wome and vice versa.
My standards are different,and thus the values/mindsets of myself and the ladies are different.
ps When I was younger(late 20's) and before I got married for the first time at age 48, I was in the bars just about every night with god as my witness. What is your definition of a shallow existence anyways?
While I had a some relationships and got lucky on occasion(I like and like sex too believe it or not but no more for the sake of sex only), I learned that most were not my type;most were very shallow, had minds with the depth of a puddle and were just boring and many nowhere near the intelligence that I sought.

[TwoTonTony]

Just remember if YOU hadn't used the word devout in the first place, this argument would not have ensued.
No one said you wouldn't respect a woman who wouldn't have sex such as the catholic lady.
However, no matter how much you claim to to be "in the fight daily"(an interesting choice of words in an area which for me anyways was to find a mate), you will never convince me that you have more knowledge tham I when it comes to talking about the mindset of anyone in their fifties and sixties.
I am not going to elaborate/list the reasons again.
Believe it or don't believe it;that is your choice.
Your approach works for the short term type of relationships you want with the mindset of the values of the women you seek.
My values are different than yours as is the kind of lady whom I would want(marriage);thus it is just simple logic that many of my type of ladieswould not go for the so-called proven techniques(which for the most part are designed to get a lady to sleep with you).
I don't know everything about women of the type of woman YOU seek;juding by the sex without commitment many I have, I don't care to know.
YOu don't know much about what makes tick the selective women I would want;thats it in a nutshell.
You are by most definitions a playboy for lack of a better term and don't want to settle down as I do/did.
You said so yourself;its not bad;its just what YOU want.
You are attracted to certain types of wome and vice versa.
My standards are different,and thus the values/mindsets of myself and the ladies are different.

here we fucking go again!!!!

i am far from a playboy.....i have girlfriends.....sometimes for years at a time....You assume a lot....I am attracted to many types of women....


again------get this through your ***** skull....these techniques as YOU call them....i call it communication.....is not voodoo designed to get women to sleep with you....That is comical and downright cheesy!!! i have never said that.....All i know is i this......I can communicate with women....they think i am witty, funny and develop a certain level of trust and comfort with me easily.....I am easy to be around....Do not take myself as seriously as some (look in the mirror).....and the relationship goes from there...if that is a technique designed to sleep with someone you are an idiot......

I very rarely have ugly breakups and am friends with many ex'es....I am never disrespectful.....I show them a fun time.....I never lie to them......

So where is this playboy shit you keep referring to....All i ever said was i know what makes chicks tick.....just watch the movie swingers with vince vaughn and you will see many truths..........

you turned this into another, "my way or the highway discussion"....

you are a hard person to like....It is very sad that you lost a lifelong friend over politics.....It shows you value being right more than you do friendship.....That is why you should just agree to disagree instead of hammering your opinions down peoples throats....You do it in such an arrogant way.....You also dismiss peoples responses and keep talking away at things that were never said...just inferred by you.....

You have big communication problems and if i were to predict....they will wear thin on your wife when she gets hip to it.......

You will die a lonely broken man!!!

[savage1]

The bible has no relevance TODAY. It was written 1000s of years ago. It has no bearing how life is lived today. Proof that the bible and other religous writing have no relevance look at the Muslim religion.

I obviously don't agree with that.
In any case, my main point was/is that if someone calls himself religious, which is based on the bible, and yet goes out and does what he wants no matter what the bible or his religion says, then he is not religious.

[TwoTonTony]

Just remember if YOU hadn't used the word devout in the first place, this argument would not have ensued.
No one said you wouldn't respect a woman who wouldn't have sex such as the catholic lady.
However, no matter how much you claim to to be "in the fight daily"(an interesting choice of words in an area which for me anyways was to find a mate), you will never convince me that you have more knowledge tham I when it comes to talking about the mindset of anyone in their fifties and sixties.
I am not going to elaborate/list the reasons again.
Believe it or don't believe it;that is your choice.
Your approach works for the short term type of relationships you want with the mindset of the values of the women you seek.
My values are different than yours as is the kind of lady whom I would want(marriage);thus it is just simple logic that many of my type of ladieswould not go for the so-called proven techniques(which for the most part are designed to get a lady to sleep with you).
I don't know everything about women of the type of woman YOU seek;juding by the sex without commitment many I have, I don't care to know.
YOu don't know much about what makes tick the selective women I would want;thats it in a nutshell.
You are by most definitions a playboy for lack of a better term and don't want to settle down as I do/did.
You said so yourself;its not bad;its just what YOU want.
You are attracted to certain types of wome and vice versa.
My standards are different,and thus the values/mindsets of myself and the ladies are different.
ps When I was younger(late 20's) and before I got married for the first time at age 48, I was in the bars just about every night with god as my witness. What is your definition of a shallow existence anyways?
While I had a some relationships and got lucky on occasion(I like and like sex too believe it or not but no more for the sake of sex only), I learned that most were not my type;most were very shallow, had minds with the depth of a puddle and were just boring and many nowhere near the intelligence that I sought.

i meet next to no girls in bars....since i do not go there....I do not need courage in a bottle to talk to women.....

I know the types of women i like and they are not in bars....I belong to professional associations, i see women shopping, at the gym, at the ball game, at the ****....If i see someone i like or think i may like i approach her.....

You were a lost man if you were in the bars every night....You must not thought very much of yourself......

I love good conversation and will not date a women who can not hold her own.....(and then hold mine later)!!!

You are a man of many stereotypes...generalizing peoples lives if they differ from yours.....

I used the term in the fight as an analogy of living it.....there you go again reading into it....

It must get awfully tiring for you to have to hang on so tight....

That to me is not shallow and does not merit your term "shallow existence"....

[TwoTonTony]

I obviously don't agree with that.
In any case, my main point was/is that if someone calls himself religious, which is based on the bible, and yet goes out and does what he wants no matter what the bible or his religion says, then he is not religious.

your interpretation buddy.....You are in no position to cast stones......