Opinion on Russ Limbaugh

[TwoTonTony]

Well, I really can't say that I agree that the Bushs are facists, but I don't really accept the argument that liberals can be "open-minded" towards "close minded" people. Of course liberals will not openly accept those that seek to oppress the poor, the homosexuals, and persons of color. Perhaps such conservatives are the only people that liberals would not accept nor understand. But how could they? Such conservatives stand for the exact opposite of their ideals. Such conservatives desire to destroy them politically.

I look forward to seeing your conservative philosophy. As I stated, today's Republicans are the party of greed, guns, and God. If you don't fit into one of those groups then I think it might be time to re-evaluate. Abraham Lincoln would not recognize his own party today.

i disagree entirely...especially about people of color...t is the democrats that continue to keep these people enabled, counting on govt. programs instead of promoting being self sufficient......The whole democrat mentality is that of wanting more government and a handout mentality counting on programs and more taxes....... I believe that any person that strives for success and has and investor mentality would want to be a republican......Salesman and businessmen who lay it on the line everyday understand this......

In a capitalist society have we forgotten that their are winners and losers in life......People who are smarter, work harder and take the financial risks deserve the big payoff, whereas the dems want everyone to be equal and penalize those who do the right thing by not having incentives to succeed.......That is why i left CT.....heavy democratc state that taxes the hell out of the businessman leaving him no incentive to stay.....remember if we tax the hell out of the rich, then there is no reason for them to risk their capitol creating jobs for the rest of society...their is nothing wrong with success and we should not take it out on successful people.....thats why many are leaving CT for states like FLA, AZ and NEV......JMHO.....I employed 16 people in CT and i was taxed every which way to sunday.....for what???? to work 90 hours a week and have to turn over all my profits back to the govt......

[dogpick]

i disagree entirely...especially about people of color...t is the democrats that continue to keep these people enabled, counting on govt. programs instead of promoting being self sufficient......The whole democrat mentality is that of wanting more government and a handout mentality counting on programs and more taxes..

C'mon. Your argument is based on the premise that people living on government programs are actually getting away with something--that they are living the good life!!! I would love to see a living example of someone that is living on government assistance that could do worse if they had a job. Remember the Republican's buddy Bill Clinton reformed welfare. There are not that many people getting rich by taking government assistance these days.

Additionally, you should think about this: If you have assets and income then you have assets and income to defend. People who have nothing would lose nothing under a different form of government. You could say that they would lose the chance to someday become wealthier, but we would all lose that opportunity. Thus, those that currently have more SHOULD pay a higher marginal rate because they inherently receive more benefit from military spending.

The majority of the federal budget goes to two things: national defense and interest on the federal deficit. If you want to cut spending, then those are the first two areas you need to look at...and you know which party likes to keep us floating in debt and spending on the military. If you don't I will give you a hint---The name of the party begins with an R.

Tom Delay even admitted a couple of weeks ago that the budget for domestic spending has been cut to the bone. TOM DELAY said it, not me.

[TwoTonTony]

C'mon. Your argument is based on the premise that people living on government programs are actually getting away with something--that they are living the good life!!! I would love to see a living example of someone that is living on government assistance that could do worse if they had a job. Remember the Republican's buddy Bill Clinton reformed welfare. There are not that many people getting rich by taking government assistance these days.

Additionally, you should think about this: If you have assets and income then you have assets and income to defend. People who have nothing would lose nothing under a different form of government. You could say that they would lose the chance to someday become wealthier, but we would all lose that opportunity. Thus, those that currently have more SHOULD pay a higher marginal rate because they inherently receive more benefit from military spending.

The majority of the federal budget goes to two things: national defense and interest on the federal deficit. If you want to cut spending, then those are the first two areas you need to look at...and you know which party likes to keep us floating in debt and spending on the military. If you don't I will give you a hint---The name of the party begins with an R.

Tom Delay even admitted a couple of weeks ago that the budget for domestic spending has been cut to the bone. TOM DELAY said it, not me.

i am not saying they are getting away with something, but i am talking about 3 generations worth of people on welfare with no plans of getting off it.....Never said people get rich from welfare.....I can think of plenty of people who lose out on benefits (health insurance and services) if they took a job at mcdonalds and so on....so there goes that argument...people would be worse off with that job on paper...i firmly believe that no job is beneath anyone and you have to systematically move up in the world and learn every step of the way....I am a businessman and i also come on here to talk gambling......I knew i would dread commenting......In terms of your comment that the rich get more value from the military i think that is bs....I am not in favor of the war, but i now must support it, because i do not believe in not finishing a job....I also do not blame one party or the other...i see problems with both......

I however, do not like your snide attitude and holier than though tone......I am not a politician, just a guy with a different opinion...and i assure you if you spoke to me that way personally i would snap your neck

[dogpick]

I believe that any person that strives for success and has and investor mentality would want to be a republican......Salesman and businessmen who lay it on the line everyday understand this......

In a capitalist society have we forgotten that their are winners and losers in life......People who are smarter, work harder and take the financial risks deserve the big payoff, whereas the dems want everyone to be equal and penalize those who do the right thing by not having incentives to succeed.

I respectfully disagree. I can't speak to the situation in Connecticut because that is a state matter of which I have no knowledge. I am from Chicago, so I know little about state taxation on the East Coast.

Nonetheless, there are many people that would love to start their own business but cannot because they could not afford the health care costs. For instance, I think I am a pretty good attorney but could not afford to pay the premiums on a policy for my family unless I work for a large firm. My wife has severe health issues, so I don't even know if we would be insurable if I was on my own. If not for my inability to obtain health care for my family, I could start my own business tomorrow and provide very good legal services for a much more competitive price than the firm for which I work. You probably also have people working for you that could do just as good as you if not for the fact that they cannot afford the health care when they are just starting their own business. To me, health care is something that needs to be socialized. Although we would pay more taxes, we would also lose the premiums. Very big business would probably get hit hard, but I feel it would be worth it to allow the little guy a chance.

As for the capitalistic system, I am not completely against it. There are many cases in which it works well, and I don't think many democrats would disagree with me. Nonetheless, how bad do you want the losers to lose? Do you want to see the elderly thrown out in the street if they have no savings? What about infants with no health insurance? Don't you think their needs to be some economic safeguards for our country to remain civilized. Surely you would not want pure capitalism, which would lead to EXTREME results. I suppose in the end, only one corporation would have everything and employ the rest of us...if we obeyed.

[dogpick]

In terms of your comment that the rich get more value from the military i think that is bs....I am not in favor of the war, but i now must support it, because i do not believe in not finishing a job....I also do not blame one party or the other...i see problems with both......

I however, do not like your snide attitude and holier than though tone......I am not a politician, just a guy with a different opinion...and i assure you if you spoke to me that way personally i would snap your neck

How is it BS that the rich get more out of the war? What does a poor person in Iraq or the United States gain if their country wins a war? Absolutely nothing.

Sorry if you felt my attitude was snide. Nonetheless, the truth hurts and perhaps you are beginning to realize that the Republicans are not what is best for this country.

[TwoTonTony]

I respectfully disagree. I can't speak to the situation in Connecticut because that is a state matter of which I have no knowledge. I am from Chicago, so I know little about state taxation on the East Coast.

Nonetheless, there are many people that would love to start their own business but cannot because they could not afford the health care costs. For instance, I think I am a pretty good attorney but could not afford to pay the premiums on a policy for my family unless I work for a large firm. My wife has severe health issues, so I don't even know if we would be insurable if I was on my own. If not for my inability to obtain health care for my family, I could start my own business tomorrow and provide very good legal services for a much more competitive price than the firm for which I work. You probably also have people working for you that could do just as good as you if not for the fact that they cannot afford the health care when they are just starting their own business. To me, health care is something that needs to be socialized. Although we would pay more taxes, we would also lose the premiums. Very big business would probably get hit hard, but I feel it would be worth it to allow the little guy a chance.

As for the capitalistic system, I am not completely against it. There are many cases in which it works well, and I don't think many democrats would disagree with me. Nonetheless, how bad do you want the losers to lose? Do you want to see the elderly thrown out in the street if they have no savings? What about infants with no health insurance? Don't you think their needs to be some economic safeguards for our country to remain civilized. Surely you would not want pure capitalism, which would lead to EXTREME results. I suppose in the end, only one corporation would have everything and employ the rest of us...if we obeyed.

those are just excuses why you can't...that is loser talk.......thats why you start small and find a way....i had 0 employees when i started and i had a partner who stole from me and almost bankrupted the company....i did not have the money to buy him out, but i borrowed, because i believed.....the word can't did not enter my vocaulary....i slept in the business many nights for 7 months until the notes were retired....many business guys like me who have bootstrapped it do not want to hear excuses from people....we have paid the price...with no guarentees......i believe in capitalism and this country....and men who dare to dream and are willing to pay the price to make those dreams come true...........If it were easy everyone would do it....I learned a long time ago buddy...that there is no FREE LUNCH!!!

[TwoTonTony]

How is it BS that the rich get more out of the war? What does a poor person in Iraq or the United States gain if their country wins a war? Absolutely nothing.

Sorry if you felt my attitude was snide. Nonetheless, the truth hurts and perhaps you are beginning to realize that the Republicans are not what is best for this country.

a poor person in iraq gets something that is priceless if it were to work out the way it is intended...freedom and opportunity.....which capitalism provides......A poor person in this country i would say 80% would be his fault....there is no reason an able bodied person shoudl be poor here...the only reason is that everyone lives beyond their means....there are no true poor here anymore....have you been to the inner city....most have cd players, color tv, cable andhundred dollar sneakers.......priorities are screwed up in the US...what is wrong with living within your means or below them until we can afford it...and many poor can not keep their cocks in their pants and procreate when they can not afford themselves yet alone another mouth to feed...

i do not know if the republicans are best for this country........yet i know the democrats do not have the answers either.....to me, it is the lesser of two evils....i despise most politicians because they speak from both sides of their mouth and are not accountable for their spending....what we need is a business man running the show, but that will never happen.....

[TwoTonTony]

those are just excuses why you can't...that is loser talk.......thats why you start small and find a way....i had 0 employees when i started and i had a partner who stole from me and almost bankrupted the company....i did not have the money to buy him out, but i borrowed, because i believed.....the word can't did not enter my vocaulary....i slept in the business many nights for 7 months until the notes were retired....many business guys like me who have bootstrapped it do not want to hear excuses from people....we have paid the price...with no guarentees......i believe in capitalism and this country....and men who dare to dream and are willing to pay the price to make those dreams come true...........If it were easy everyone would do it....I learned a long time ago buddy...that there is no FREE LUNCH!!!

I also believe the smart analytical guys like you make the worst businessmen...you suffer from paralysis from analysis and let reason why you can;t cloud your mind....you are too smart for your own good, whereas the driver types forge ahead and failure is never an option....simple as that.....i have owned about 7 businesses in my life and 4 were failures as businesses, but great lessons that allowed me success in the future....that was my learning curve.......Most successful businessmen were C students, so it ain;t all brains...so your comment about employees being successful businessmen is offensive to me......You just don't go in business and magically you are successful....it is the hardest thing in the world...Why else would 90% fail in the first 5 years....because everyone thinks its easy and go into business and are just techinitians in their business and become a slave to the business and have simply only bought themselves a job....It takes huge skill to be able to work on your business and not in it!!!! think about it

[dogpick]

those are just excuses why you can't...that is loser talk......I learned a long time ago buddy...that there is no FREE LUNCH!!!

No actually it is not loser talk. It is true. I realize that there is no free lunch but that does not mean there should not be socialized health care. When you were starting out wouldn't you have preferred to have it? Some people have serious health issues in this country. If you don't then you should be thankful, but please don't fool yourself into thinking that hard work can overcome those types of issues.

[dogpick]

A poor person in this country i would say 80% would be his fault....there is no reason an able bodied person shoudl be poor here...the only reason is that everyone lives beyond their means....there are no true poor here anymore....have you been to the inner city....most have cd players, color tv, cable andhundred dollar sneakers.......priorities are screwed up in the US...what is wrong with living within your means or below them until we can afford it...and many poor can not keep their cocks in their pants and procreate when they can not afford themselves yet alone another mouth to feed...

Now you are contradicting yourself. You said in an earlier post that capitalism will have winners and losers. Thus, under the conditions you provided there would NECESSARILY be poor people just as there would NECESSARILY be rich people.

As for the statement that there is no poor people here, that speaks for itself. No reasonable person would believe such a statement. You were correct in stating that capitalism will have winners and losers. However, as there will obviously be losers that means that there will also be "hard working" losers. In other words, people who had great ability, worked hard, but lost out to someone else such as someone with sales ability that was not nearly as qualified. Pure capitalism is VERY HARSH.

After you state that there are no poor people, you say that too many poor people can't "keep their cocks in their pants." So which is it? Is there poor people or isn't there poor people? Maybe I missed the news that poverty in this country has ended.

[dogpick]

I also believe the smart analytical guys like you make the worst businessmen...you suffer from paralysis from analysis and let reason why you can;t cloud your mind....you are too smart for your own good, whereas the driver types forge ahead and failure is never an option....simple as that.....i have owned about 7 businesses in my life and 4 were failures as businesses, but great lessons that allowed me success in the future....that was my learning curve.......Most successful businessmen were C students, so it ain;t all brains...so your comment about employees being successful businessmen is offensive to me......You just don't go in business and magically you are successful....it is the hardest thing in the world...Why else would 90% fail in the first 5 years....because everyone thinks its easy and go into business and are just techinitians in their business and become a slave to the business and have simply only bought themselves a job....It takes huge skill to be able to work on your business and not in it!!!! think about it

I agree that it takes skill to be an entreprenuer. Nevertheless, it would be alot easier for entrepreneurs if we could find a way to give them government sponsored health care. I don't really see why a small businessman would object. You are basically saying that you had it tough so everyone else should also have it that way. I disagree. If we can find a way to make it easier for people to start their own businesses then we should do it. Socialized health care would be a great start.

[TwoTonTony]

I agree that it takes skill to be an entreprenuer. Nevertheless, it would be alot easier for entrepreneurs if we could find a way to give them government sponsored health care. I don't really see why a small businessman would object. You are basically saying that you had it tough so everyone else should also have it that way. I disagree. If we can find a way to make it easier for people to start their own businesses then we should do it. Socialized health care would be a great start.

dogpicks, you think there should be a cookie cutter explanation that fits everyone......there are winners and losers in life......the winners help the losers....that is how our society works, but you do NOT penalize the winners for being winners......Of course it would have been easer with accessible health care, but that does not equate to socialized medicine.....QUALITY GOES DOWN...ask canada!!!!! also capitalism is not harsh....if it is then life itself is harsh.....competition brings out the best in people and technologies....pure and simple.....I am not saying since i had it tough everyone should.....what i am is saying true success comes with sacrifice and if there is a will there is a way....There continues to be struggles for all new entrepreneurs in this arena.....do you think we all start out with benefit plans??? no, we have to be creative and give the key employees part of the company and a reason to stay, but the risk/reward ratio remains.......you somehow want to smooth out that curve and it can not be done.....never has never will.....

my poor people comments...let me clarify.....It is not like the ealry 20's where many folks are starving.......I am in the inner cities and many of these folks at soup kitchens have better shoes on than i do and nicer cell phones.....Now to me that dos not sound real real poor....It sounds like low on money with the luxuries of today........In the 20's people had nothing...Many of our poor have mental problems and those issues need to be addressed....I am talking about the many able bodied ones who reproduce, did not stay in school and will not take a job because it is beneath them....Do not pretend they do not exist....I have no stats how many there are, but there are many babies daddies out there...SO many in fact that the term was invented......The difference between me and you is that i am solution oriented and a realist where you are a finger pointer, excuse maker and pie in the sky thinker who despises people who have made and wants a piece of it without the sacrifice......i am sorry for your families health issues, but i repeat.....if there is a will there is a way....

I know a women personally who had no college and her husband left her with 3 kids......Yes, she was depressed, yes she was broke and no she did not have health insurance.....But she nutted up, cleaned peoples houses and now has 75+ employees.......She made it happen....Life is not easy.....excuses are....

[TwoTonTony]

anyways dogpicks....i am done with this....good luck with your picks......It is obvious that i am not going to change your mind and you DEFINITLEY will not change mine so i am going to cease my political views (why i ever posted them i will never know).....I will stick with the picks section.......I just think you need to look in the mirror and be whatever you want to be.......without government help.....best advice i can give.....that ship that they say is coming in.....it never comes in on its own.......embrace competition and rise to the occassion....the men you bet on do!!!

[dogpick]

anyways dogpicks....i am done with this....good luck with your picks......It is obvious that i am not going to change your mind and you DEFINITLEY will not change mine so i am going to cease my political views (why i ever posted them i will never know).....I will stick with the picks section.......I just think you need to look in the mirror and be whatever you want to be.......without government help.....best advice i can give.....that ship that they say is coming in.....it never comes in on its own.......embrace competition and rise to the occassion....the men you bet on do!!!

Like I said. The Republicans are the money of greed, guns, and God. You are a Republican because you are greedy. As I am none of those three things, I am not a Republican.

[TwoTonTony]

Like I said. The Republicans are the money of greed, guns, and God. You are a Republican because you are greedy. As I am none of those three things, I am not a Republican.

A predictable response from a weak man.....I am not greedy...In fact i live in a modest house, drive a car thats paid for and save 30% of my salary....do you know why? because i have discipline.....it is not greed.....My friend my first 7 years in business i averaged making under $25,000, but i stuck it out and made it happen....While you are sitting there with your thumb up your ass crying out to make a better living, i was living by the balls of my ass...so do not give me your happy horseshit you socliast motherfucker.....I woudl love to see you in person....i would give you less than 30 seconds before i put you to sleep....i also do not own a gun and i do believe in God.....So the only words i can offer a man of no guts or substance is.....grow some balls and stop your crying....Also good luck with your betting.....Surprised you even do that....maybe the government can pay you back for your losses since you want to have no risk in your life......You are a pussy