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  • Spark
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    Originally posted by violivei12 View Post
    Its ridiculous for people who have watched CNN for a few hours to call the 12 jurors idiots when the jurors actually saw ALL of the evidence and information. They were in that courtroom for 6 weeks, not 3 hours, and they all came to the same verdict. .

    Just because they were in the court room all the while does not mean they understood anything.
    It is ridiculous for people to think that these 12 people were able to understand all the EVIDENCE that was presented to them in a mere matter of 10 hours. This case was all circumstantial evidence and much of it was used for the first time in a court of law. This jury based their decision on that fact that they believed it was an accident. There was NO EVIDENCE this was an accident. The fact that they did not ask for one read back of testimony during deliberation or take many notes during the trial leads me to believe they never cared about the evidence.

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  • flarendep1
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    Originally posted by ravenmaniac View Post
    No offense Bry but if you think she is a hot chick you got really low standards. I would let her but that's about it



    Agree, she could make skank magazine but not playboy.

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  • slappy's son
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    Originally posted by violivei12 View Post
    Its ridiculous for people who have watched CNN for a few hours to call the 12 jurors idiots when the jurors actually saw ALL of the evidence and information.
    Here's where you are wrong! They did NOT get to hear all the evidence available that we saw on court TV and the media. The judge did NOT allow a good deal of evidence in, such as the baby sitter telling police how Casey Anthony had talked about Kalie in the past-tense, and "in her memory", during that 31-day period when Casey knew she was already dead and nobody else did. There were several other critical items of evidence that pointed the finger directly at Casey Anthony that was not permitted to be presented by the prosecution. So "NO", the jurors did NOT get to hear it all.

    WHO in their right mind takes an accidental drowning and makes it look like a homocide by placing duct tape over the dead body's mouth and nose? NOBODY!!

    Anyone who truley thinks Casey Anthony did not kill her little girl has serious mental issues, IMHO. There was a mountain of evidence that states otherwise. Scott Pederson in California got sentenced to death with HALF as much circumstantial evidence as there was here!

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  • violivei12
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    This story blowing up was 100% the medias fault and it is completely true that the media shaped many peoples view in this trial. Its ridiculous for people who have watched CNN for a few hours to call the 12 jurors idiots when the jurors actually saw ALL of the evidence and information. They were in that courtroom for 6 weeks, not 3 hours, and they all came to the same verdict. I trust their judgement more than I trust a few bums who read about it the night before......With that being said I do believe she did it, but by being "not guilty" it does not mean she didn't do it, it just means the state couldn't prove it without a reasonable doubt. Lets say there is a 90% chance she did it. If we applied that to every case then for every 10 cases that were like this 1 innocent person would be in jail for life or on death row...there are enough wrongly convicted persons in our jail system already we don't need anymore.

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  • Hoopster007
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    Originally posted by slappy's son View Post
    Spark - some people just have NONE! And for this idiot to say he feels great after a verdict like this, he's got serious issues! It's people like this who have this country so fuck'd up!
    No what is fucked up is that people are actually sitting and watching this for hours, which gives the media the ability to make this a huge story. We live in a reality TV world and this us just another example of a story taking over peoples lives.

    I didn't watch this but from the little I have seen there was no evidence and she got off. But I am troubled by how involved and emotional people are with this. Nobody knows and are actually certain they have the answers. All I see is a bunch of crap thrown together and everybody thinking they know what happened.

    This country is fucked up because of shit like this. The fact that this is a lead story while we have so many other problems going on in alot of state and federal government. It is really something.

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  • frankb03
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    Originally posted by slappy's son View Post
    It's people like this who have this country so fuck'd up!
    The biggest cause of this country "so fucked up" and the biggest injustice in this case is the MEDIA! The media is the largest contributor to our countries problems. They have too much power. People take what they report as gospel. They report everything as FACT regardless of the truth. Their job is to sell papers. Their job is not to report the truth. They could care less about the truth. It's your responsibility to read threw their BS.

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  • frankb03
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    Originally posted by 10DimeBry View Post
    but if schizophrenia or any mental disorder is your argument for her being a "killer" then doesnt every single murderer have this same option?? Why not everyone use this defense? how could it be proven otherwise??? you can pay any so-called expert to say anything to make you appear to be psycho.

    I mean think about it....... just pause and think about it......if you could use a mental disorder as a defense what is the point of everyone not using it?
    What people confuse is there's a difference between having mental issues and being competent to stand trial. They are two different things. Casey was competent to stand trial. She understood the charges. A defendant is presumed competent to stand trial unless his mental condition prevents him from understanding the nature and object of the proceedings against him, or the court determines that he is unable to assist in his defense.

    However, Casey mental issues were the contributing factor in the death of Caylee. I'm not using her mental state as an excuse. It's not. I'm using her mental state to explain her irrational behavior. It's not a defense. We can't assume everyone should react how we would react. People are different.

    Three years ago a close friend had the unfortunate experience of getting in legal trouble. First, when you sit in a courtroom 8 to 10 times and you watch the defendants in and out of court most clearly have mental issues.

    Second, when you're that close to the legal system on a regular basis you get a better feeling how it works. It's now always a fair and impartial system. You see and watch the extremes prosecutors go to get a conviction. Most defendants deserve what they get. Some simply do not. Some prosecutors simply don't care. They'll be presented with conclusive evidence exonerating a defendant yet they'll still twist, bend and spin the facts.

    Finally, one is naive if anyone thinks that prosecutors don't lie or fabricate evidence. The Casey Anthony case is proof they do.

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  • ravenmaniac
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    Originally posted by 10DimeBry View Post
    playboy spread coming in 6-12months just u watch.

    im telling you she walked cause she was a hot chick!!!!
    No offense Bry but if you think she is a hot chick you got really low standards. I would let her but that's about it

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  • ravenmaniac
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    Originally posted by frankb03 View Post
    A juror can't convict on common sense. A juror can't convict on their emotion. They can only convict on the evidence.

    Duct tape! Why did George lie about duct tape, TWICE? He lied about the duct tape on the gas can. He lied about the duct tape at the command center.

    Only Casey had access to the clothes? Three other adults lived in the house. George, Cindy and Lee. Cindy testified it the clothes weren't regular clothes that Caylee wore.

    The interviewed juror felt George had something to do with the cover-up. That in itself is reasonable doubt.

    Joe, how much of this case did you follow prior to the trial? I rarely paid attention. During the trial I wasn't biased by 3 years of media coverage. For 6 weeks I told family, friends etc. I'm not pro Casey Anthony. I'm anti-prosecution. IMO the state didn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

    No offense was taken by the "feeling ok" comment. I actually and literally LOLed.
    There are people on death row in this country, convicted oin far less evidence than they had against CA. As the prosecutor said in closing arguments, if the child actually drowned, you don't take an accident and make it look like murder.

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  • slappy's son
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    Originally posted by Spark View Post
    ... Come on Frank, common sense ... [/COLOR][/B]
    Spark - some people just have NONE! And for this idiot to say he feels great after a verdict like this, he's got serious issues! It's people like this who have this country so fuck'd up!

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  • Spark
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    Originally posted by frankb03 View Post
    One strand of hair with conflicting testimony on that strand of hair. There was conflicting testimony within the FBI. The state called some experts while the defense called others. REASONABLE DOUBT.




    It was a high profile case. The state wanted murder 1 and the death penalty. The defense had no choice but to bring it to trial.



    Like much of the evidence it contained no fingerprints, DNA etc. NO PROOF!




    Why did George lie about the duct tape twice? White bag? Kronk said the skull was in the bag and it fell out. Then he said the skull wasn't in the bag. When he called 911 in August he said he saw a skull. How can he see the skull if it's in the bag? MORE REASONABLE DOUBT!

    Chloroform? No chloroform, traces of chloroform or materials to make chloroform were found in the house. The state was reaching with the chloroform theory. I'm an IT professional. the computer searches hurt the states case. The computer expert from Canada fabricated the evidence. There wasn't 84 searches for how to make chloroform. Chloroform isn't easy to make. It's also very dangerous to make. I don't believe Casey chloroformed her daughter to death. Casey was only on the "How to Make Chloroform" page for seconds before returning to MySpace.

    I don't believe Casey murdered her daughter. I believe it was an accidental death in one fashion or another. This is Florida. I believe Caylee might have died from being left in the car. She died from hyperthermia and Casey covered up the accidental death. Parents get charged and go to jail for that crime including very attentive parents that simply made a mistake.

    Did George assist in the coverup? I don't know but due to his shady testimony the possibility exists.
    Like much of the evidence it contained no fingerprints, DNA etc. NO PROOF!


    Just because there was no Direct evidence does not mean there was no evidence. 100% of this case was based on circumstantial evidence. No there was no smoking gun but there was TONS and TONs of circumstantial evidence. The problem with circumstantial evidence is that is takes a semi-intelligent person to put the inferences together. As Linda Drane Burdick said in the closing: “I hope you can see the forest for the trees.” This jury failed to put 2 and 2 together…period.

    Why did George lie about the duct tape twice? White bag? Kronk said the skull was in the bag and it fell out. Then he said the skull wasn't in the bag. When he called 911 in August he said he saw a skull. How can he see the skull if it's in the bag? MORE REASONABLE DOUBT!


    When did George lie about the duct tape.(sorry if I missed this but I honestly don’t know) The white square bag that Caylee was stuffed in. It is sold in pairs with a cylindrical one. The second half of that pair was found in the Anthonys garage. I agree Kronk was not 100% honest and I’m sure he embellished too but just because one reasonably doubts how he found the bones does NOT mean one reasonably doubts who put the bones there.

    Beyond a reasonable doubt does not mean without a shadow of a doubt or beyond all doubt.
    Last edited by Spark; 07-05-2011, 11:48 PM.

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  • kbsooner21
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    Originally posted by 10DimeBry View Post
    but if schizophrenia or any mental disorder is your argument for her being a "killer" then doesnt every single murderer have this same option?? Why not everyone use this defense? how could it be proven otherwise??? you can pay any so-called expert to say anything to make you appear to be psycho.

    I mean think about it....... just pause and think about it......if you could use a mental disorder as a defense what is the point of everyone not using it?

    My follow up is this.....I firmly believe anyone .....ANYONE whom takes actions to intentionally kill another human being in anyway is Fucked up and mentally crazy....Why because I know i never could do that. So by that theory everyone who ever killed someone is mentally disturbed. which means if anyone who is on death row should be free to walk away.

    the mental issue defense IMO is a joke.

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  • Spark
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    Originally posted by DAREALDEAL View Post
    May God bless her and keep her safe from monsters like her mother...


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  • vols fan
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    Originally posted by wayne1218 View Post
    Same here vols. How can you have a kid and not be like that? 31 freakin days and she says nothing? Holy fuck people, wake up!!!
    God forbid one of my sons die but I don't see how my life could go on without them. The thought of a parent dumping a kid out like trash to be covered by maggots for 31 days while I party like a rockstar is so far beyond my belief its crazy. Casey will stand before God one day and get her judgement and I hope to God those 12 jurors are right behind her and get the same thing.

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  • 10DimeBry
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    Originally posted by frankb03 View Post
    I would go to the ends of the worlds for my daughters. Casey didn't. That does not make Casey a murderer. It makes Casey psychotic. It makes Casey a schizophrenic.

    You say blind. I say impartial. I wasn't influenced by the 3 year witch hunt because I didn't pay attention to the case until the trial started.

    The definition of schizophrenia fits Casey to a tee.

    Schizophrenia - PubMed Health

    but if schizophrenia or any mental disorder is your argument for her being a "killer" then doesnt every single murderer have this same option?? Why not everyone use this defense? how could it be proven otherwise??? you can pay any so-called expert to say anything to make you appear to be psycho.

    I mean think about it....... just pause and think about it......if you could use a mental disorder as a defense what is the point of everyone not using it?

    My follow up is this.....I firmly believe anyone .....ANYONE whom takes actions to intentionally kill another human being in anyway is Fucked up and mentally crazy....Why because I know i never could do that. So by that theory everyone who ever killed someone is mentally disturbed. which means if anyone who is on death row should be free to walk away.

    the mental issue defense IMO is a joke.

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