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I'm no attorney, and I'm not WayneOriginally posted by tech fan View PostWayne I know its a difference in the sentencing but saying guilty to manslaughter is sugar coating saying I murdered someone.It's Tue same thing.Read it.I could be wrong but I remember hearing the difference on another court case a while back and. Thought damn what's the difference.Difference is in proving manslaughter u don't need as much evidence but in proving murder u need a lot.But in the jury's eyes if u say no to murder how can u say yes to manslaughter.If manslaughter was the only charge she would have been found guilty.
Manslaughter-She used chloroform and duct tape to keep Caylee quiet in the trunk while she went in and partied at the bar, came out, child was dead. Didn't mean to, but she killed her.
Murder- I'm going to kill my daughter by using chloroform and duct tape so I never have to see the kid again.
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Wayne I know its a difference in the sentencing but saying guilty to manslaughter is sugar coating saying I murdered someone.It's Tue same thing.Read it.I could be wrong but I remember hearing the difference on another court case a while back and. Thought damn what's the difference.Difference is in proving manslaughter u don't need as much evidence but in proving murder u need a lot.But in the jury's eyes if u say no to murder how can u say yes to manslaughter.If manslaughter was the only charge she would have been found guilty.Originally posted by wayne1218 View PostDitto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And there is a BIG difference (tech) between murder and manslaughter my friend. It's called death row, life in prison and premeditation.
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I was hoping and pulling for a guilty.verdict in no way was I hoping for not guilty.I wish looking back the state would have just charged her with manslaughter and did not try for the death penalty.I feel that there was not enough proof but know she did it but this should not have been a death penalty case.I think the jury said no on murder then they said if we said no on murder we have to say no on manslaughter because if we just said she did not murder how can we say guilty on manslaughter.Not sure the exact definition of manslaughter but it sounds just like murder to me.Something like intentionally taking a life not trying to injure but intent on ending ones life.To me that is the same as murder.so when the jury said no to murder they had to say no to manslaughter.But if she had been charged with manslaughter first they would have got a guilty verdict.
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I didn't make myself clear, wayne. I was speaking of just the murder charges.Originally posted by wayne1218 View PostHey udog, you don't have to have murder proven if you charge her with manslaughter and personal feel should be a big part of the verdict or else we should just have computers on the jury. They are there to listen to not only the evidence but the lawyers too and the judge said you only aquit her if you think she had nothing to do with it. You said you believe she had something to do with it and just like the jury, you want to let her loose. That is the same mistake the jury made and you are doing it too. You can't believe she was involved and let her walk. It makes no sense and that is why manslaughter was an option.
I really don't understand how she walked on manslaughter. No matter what happened she was partially responsible at least.
I can't speak for the jurors but, for myself, I wouldn't want to let her off murder I would just think that, under the law, I would have to let her off murder.Last edited by Udog; 07-12-2011, 06:01 PM.
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The state could not get a conviction in my opinion because first off and mostly they screwed up royally during jury selection.
#2 George Anthony lying about the affair he had on the stand made everything he said in the jury's eyes not credible.If he would lie about an affair then of course lie about this.
#3 Cindy Lying on the stand saying she looked up chloroform on the home computer.
#4 other than just saying she wanted to be free and party they showed no motive.I personally think they should have hammered home the point Caylee was getting old enough to tell her grandparents about all the lies.As motive.They touched on it but mostly said that she did it so she could party.Cause the defense brought up the fact that the grandparents watched her all the time when she went out so she got to do what she wanted anyway why murder her.
I personally feel like the state did not prove 100% without a doubt does that mean I would let her babysit my kids help no.Problem was proof they did not have a witness that hit that grand slam for every witness the state had gained momentum when cross examination came they flip flopped their story helping the defense.
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I keep hearing.from everyone to use common sense.You are correct 100% common sense says she did it.But also use that same common sense and ask yourself is this bitch smart enough to pull off the perfect murder.
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I am telling you what hurt the state against Casey.The main thing is all these tv crime shows people watch.CSI NcIs Bones etc etc.
People watch these fiction tv shows about how evidence can be can be handled and Tue types of ways to get evidence and its all made up.Jury's now expect everything when it comes to evidence but the fact is its impossible to convict a person on circumstantial evidence anymore because we expect to see all the evidence gathered against a defendant just like on tv and that does not always happen.
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Look up the definition of manslaughter not much different than murder.
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Hey udog, you don't have to have murder proven if you charge her with manslaughter and personal feel should be a big part of the verdict or else we should just have computers on the jury. They are there to listen to not only the evidence but the lawyers too and the judge said you only aquit her if you think she had nothing to do with it. You said you believe she had something to do with it and just like the jury, you want to let her loose. That is the same mistake the jury made and you are doing it too. You can't believe she was involved and let her walk. It makes no sense and that is why manslaughter was an option.
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Three or four years ago, when I last took an I.Q. test, I scored 173. I would have voted to acquit simpy because the prosecution left too much doubt. Hell, they can't even show conclusively that there was a murder.Originally posted by slappy's son View Post#2 - I think all prospective jurors need to take an I.Q. test to prove their mental capability to understand everything that's taking place. All jurors should need to have an I.Q. of no less than 120 in order to qualify.
I belive she is guilty but what I believe just doesn't matter. All that matters, in a trial, is what the evidence does or does not show.
I think something else helped bring this verdict in, though. I read, not too long ago, that recent research shows that predominately female juries tend to acquit females, no matter what the evidence shows. This is especially true when the judge is a male.
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ORLANDO, Fla. -- They're the interviews Casey Anthony's defense team did not want you to hear. Bounty hunter Leonard Padilla and his band of bodyguards were with Casey 24 hours a day after she bonded out of jail the first time and now they're recalling everything she said.
Tracy Mclaughlin Police Interview - Worked with Leonard Padilla
the bounty hunter.
This is a great inteview ... it is long but it really tells you all about Casey ... Try not to allow Tracy's giggling to annoy you as much as it did me ... it got on my nervous ... so out of place ...
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