Well KB...lets start our own trash talking now...

[TheRook]

Your gonna test JC appreciation day aren't you?

[TheRook]

This is an "elitist" thread. If you could please show yourself the door.

OMG!!!

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha

Wannabe programs down the hall to the left.

Now beat it before we take your lunch money.

[kbsooner21]

OMG!!!

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha

Wannabe programs down the hall to the left.

Now beat it before we take your lunch money.

[10DimeBry]

OMG!!!

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha

Wannabe programs down the hall to the left.

Now beat it before we take your lunch money.

LMAO poor JC.



key word their for rook .......lunch

[TheRook]

LMAO poor JC.



key word their for rook .......lunch

[jcindaville]

LMAO poor JC.



key word their for rook .......lunch

You 2 HEAVY WEIGHTS might eat me, much less take my lunch money.

Speaking of fat asses

[TheRook]

You 2 HEAVY WEIGHTS might eat me, much less take my lunch money.

Speaking of fat asses

That's nice....

he's got a medical condition you disrespectful tool.

Jeez...why don't you just kick a man while he's down.

[jcindaville]

That's nice....

he's got a medical condition you disrespectful tool.

Jeez...why don't you just kick a man while he's down.

His medical condition is cantbackawayfromthetableites

[jcindaville]

You might want to change your profile statement. lol

[jcindaville]

In all honesty Rook, i wish Notre Dame and Penn St would join the big east. It would be a perfect fit and those 2 schools would immediately solidify the conference.

2 bad that prolly will never happen

[TheRook]

In all honesty Rook, i wish Notre Dame and Penn St would join the big east. It would be a perfect fit and those 2 schools would immediately solidify the conference.

2 bad that prolly will never happen

I understand...and to a point I agree.

But when we're able to have what we have without joining a conference....I can't imagine anytime soon that changing.

I mean name one other school that has a network tv contract for all their home games?

We are able to succeed with the contract we have. And I think if we join a conference, our chances to succeed are lower. So i'm fine just staying put. We have it tough enough with our academic standards (no joke there) so I don't think adding to it by joining a conference and lowering our exposure is the right thing to do.

[jcindaville]

Oh, i dont expect it to ever happen. Dame has got it by the short hairs, it would be stupid to share the wealth.

IMO, if ND is ever going to compete for a National Title they are going to have to lower their standards. Its like bringing a knife to a gun fight.

Did you see Spurrier threatning to leave if South Carolina doesnt lower their standards.

I also realize that the Big East needs ND more than it needs us(Football only, we could boot them in baskets and still be the best league)

[TheRook]

Oh, i dont expect it to ever happen. Dame has got it by the short hairs, it would be stupid to share the wealth.

IMO, if ND is ever going to compete for a National Title they are going to have to lower their standards. Its like bringing a knife to a gun fight.

Did you see Spurrier threatning to leave if South Carolina doesnt lower their standards.

I also realize that the Big East needs ND more than it needs us(Football only, we could boot them in baskets and still be the best league)

I agree JC....but where do you draw the line? Isn't the point to graduate? I guess it depends on who you ask. If Notre Dame lowers they're academic standards, they will be looked at really badly. They are in a catch 22...but still manage to get some quality players. To compete with the OTHER elite programs? Not lately...but maybe that will change. We'll see.

YES...and that is so totally fucking funny. You can get a scholorship to South Carolina by correctly spell your name.

To lower they're standards would be a total joke.

Course that school is a joke anyway.

[jcindaville]

I dont know John, i really dont think ND can compete with their academics, same reason Stanford cant.

Its one thing in basketball to get 5-7 kids that can hoop and are good students, but in football you need 30-40 kids.

ND is at a distinct disadvantage right out of the gate, maybe they will have that magical run. But to expect them to reload like a USC or a Florida, not gonna happen.

[BillMill71]

I agree JC....but where do you draw the line? Isn't the point to graduate? I guess it depends on who you ask. If Notre Dame lowers they're academic standards, they will be looked at really badly. They are in a catch 22...but still manage to get some quality players. To compete with the OTHER elite programs? Not lately...but maybe that will change. We'll see.

YES...and that is so totally fucking funny. You can get a scholorship to South Carolina by correctly spell your name.

To lower they're standards would be a total joke.

Course that school is a joke anyway.

What are these tough Academic standards you continue to reference???? I really think you are being steered down this path by the rhetoric being pushed out by a program that is in serious decline.

This is the same school and same standards that had players with academic minds such as Julius Jones, Lance Legree, Bryant Young, Tim Brown, Tony Rice, Jerome Bettis, Raghib Ismail, Chris Zorich, Aaron Taylor...........just to name a recent few.

Come on Rook, be realistic. I know being vertically challenged, you may not have seen some of this, but as a Sophmore in high school I received tutoring in the SAT and ACT (either on acceptable tests to secure admittance into college) I took these tests 5 times (with the best scores from english and math out of the 5 added together to create the SAT score put on my applications). I had completed most of my necessary High School classes and regents tests by 1st half senior year. AND I WAS NOT THAT GOOD (Long Island football with the exception of Jim Brown, Boomer Esiason and Vinny Testaverde is not a hot bed of football compared to other staes). With this kind of treatment, a 75 - 80 average and 1150 SAT (or a comparable EASY ACT) that would be necessary for a "Scholar Athlete" to get into ND is no problem.

Let's not get crazy on the academic side. I am not buying it. The real reason for the downturn in ND is COMPETITION. Of course the elites still draw the elite (i.e. Texas, Okl, USC, any Florida school), ND included. But a 100 man roster is not made up of elite players. Only 5 players in a class are elites, the others are VERY good players. What has happened is that this next level of talent is no longer swarming to ND (and some other of the elites). These players are looking to be big fish in little ponds at places like Louisville, Boise, TCU, Rutgers, Texas Tech, Virginia, etc.. They no longer have to redshirt and fight their way for playing time in 3 years. Then the next Tier of talent has even more choices (the grinders let's call them).

There are a lot of other reasons other then the top one listed above. So I really disagree with your whole Academic thing. Believe me, I got into a small Ivy league Division III school I had no right to get into, outside of football.