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Originally posted by CheechB03I agree Bonds probably didn't hit any homers on steroids with Pittsburgh. With Pitt in 7 season Bonds hit 176 homers or 25 per season.
Without steroids from 2000 through 2004 Bonds would never of hit any where near 700+ homers. Through the 1999 season Bonds hit 445 homers in 14 seasons. In the previous 4 season from 1996-1999 Bonds averaged 38 homers per season. The next 5 season starting at age 36 he averaged almost 52 homers per season. His lowest total was 45 in a 130 games.
REAL SCIEINTIFIC STUFF. GOT TO BE THE JUICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by tinman666BOY THAT SURE WOULD BE FUNNY IF SAND BAG WAGNER WAS ON THE LISTThree Jack's Record http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/sh...10#post1323910
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As for Papi or Manny...I am not sure they could spell HGH much less take it....Three Jack's Record http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/sh...10#post1323910
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Originally posted by rented muleClearly, his stats are jacked up because of the juice. But before he began using, I would maintain to anyone who would listen, that he was the best all around baseball player of my generation. I still stand by that. He fucked it up by cheating.
No other athlete in the history of sports performed at their best in their late 30s and 40s. It used to be said an athletes prime was in their early 30s.
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Originally posted by Three Jack
I agree with Rented Mule 100%...these drugs do not make you hit the ball, they do not make you catch the ball, they do not improve your hand-eye coordination.
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Originally posted by CheechB03No other athlete in the history of sports performed at their best in their late 30s and 40s. It used to be said an athletes prime was in their early 30s.Last edited by Three Jack; 06-07-2006, 10:43 PM.Three Jack's Record http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/sh...10#post1323910
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Originally posted by CheechB03I disagree. Here's why. The difference between hitting a baseball out of the park and a fly out to the outfield is a few millimeters on the bat and an inch or two of increased bat speed. With steroids bat speed and power are increased. Without steroids some of Bonds homers would have been fly outs or foul balls.Three Jack's Record http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/sh...10#post1323910
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Originally posted by Three JackFrank, I like your posts and you are very knowledgeable, but I respectfully disagree with you on the above. One name for you...Roger Clemens. Find consecutive yrs prior to 2001 that rival 2001- 2005.
1. He was very well liked.
2. He's white.
3. He played for the Yanks during the 'steroid era'.
I agree. Hitting a baseball is the single hardest thing to do in all sports. Bonds without steroids would have been one of the greatest. He had all the tools. He can hit with power and average. He could throw and run. Now he'll always be followed by a dark cloud.
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Originally posted by CheechB03Hmmm. I knew when I made my post regarding age you would mention Clemens. I believe Clemens used steroids. He's gotten a free pass because:
1. He was very well liked.
2. He's white.
3. He played for the Yanks during the 'steroid era'.
I agree. Hitting a baseball is the single hardest thing to do in all sports. Bonds without steroids would have been one of the greatest. He had all the tools. He can hit with power and average. He could throw and run. Now he'll always be followed by a dark cloud.Three Jack's Record http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/sh...10#post1323910
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