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  • #46
    Consensus Record 3-2

    TOdays:
    Toledo 24-9
    Virginia 20-13
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    • #47
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      Chris Mad dog Russo:
      Purdue
      Miami/Ohio L
      Alabama
      Ore St W
      BC

      Mike Francessa:
      Navy W
      Cal
      Minn
      Ore St W
      BC W
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      • #48
        So far the consensus is not very impressive going 3-3 , with Toledo pending. I don't expect it to do much better than 50%. However there are several cappers that are 6-1 and 5-1, I'll try to get those up in a few hours...
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          • #50
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            Iowa State (6-5)
            vs.
            Miami, Ohio (8-4)

            Date: Dec. 28

            Time: 6:30 p.m. ET

            Location: Shreveport, La.

            Television: ESPN

            Payout: $1.2 million

            Last result: Arkansas 27, Missouri 14

            Bowl history/last appearance: Iowa State 1-6 (lost 34-16 to Boise State in 2002 Humanitarian); Miami, Ohio 6-2 (won 49-28 over Louisville in 2003 GMAC)

            Series: USC leads 5-2-1 (USC 40-14 in '64, 28-24 in '81, 12-0 in '82, 23-7 in '88, 20-10 in '92; Oklahoma 17-12 in '63, 33-20 in '71; Tie 7-7 in '73)

            2004 results: USC; Oklahoma

            2004 statistics: USC; Oklahoma

            Coaches: Dan McCarney (Iowa State); Terry Hoeppner (Miami, Ohio)

            What Iowa State has to do to win: QB Bret Mayer made some strides in the last two games of the season. He has to keep coming. The Cyclones have a decent defense, but they have to get some points up early in this game.

            What Miami, Ohio has to do to win: Show how it can play some defense. The MAC is touted as an offense-only league, but the RedHawks have some players on defense that will give an inconsistent Iowa State offense some trouble. Star WR Michael Larkin was stabbed in a fight so it’s not clear if he will play. This is the swan song for coach Terry Hoeppner, who was hired by Indiana.

            Opening point spread: Miami, Ohio by 3

            Prediction: Miami, Ohio 21, Iowa State 17.

            MVP: Miami, Ohio QB Josh Betts
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            • #51
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              Oregon State (6-5)
              vs.
              Notre Dame (6-5)

              Date: Dec. 28

              Time: 9:30 p.m. ET

              Location: Phoenix

              Television: ESPN

              Payout: $750,000

              Last result: California 52, Virginia Tech 49

              Bowl history/last appearance: Oregon State 4-4 (won 55-14 over New Mexico in 2003 Las Vegas); Notre Dame 13-12 (lost 28-6 to North Carolina State in 2003 Gator)

              Series: Oregon State leads 1-0 (41-9 in '01 Fiesta)

              2004 results: Oregon State; Notre Dame

              2004 statistics: Oregon State; Notre Dame

              Coaches: Mike Riley (Oregon State); Kent Baer/interim (Notre Dame)

              What Oregon State has to do to win: Keep the motor humming along. The Beavers have won five of their last six after starting the season 1-4. QB Derek Anderson keys a potent offense that scored 50 points against Oregon in their last game to clinch a bowl bid. The Beavers are decent on defense against the run, which is a good thing with Notre Dame on the other side of the ball.

              What Notre Dame has to do to win: Focus on the game, now that the Patriots' Charlie Weis has been hired and will coach the team starting next season. The last time Notre Dame played Oregon State, the Beavers won in a rout in the 2001 Fiesta Bowl. Since then, both programs have been going backwards. The Irish have to keep a handle on OSU wideout Mike Hass (81 receptions) while watching Beavers’ TE Joe Newton (49 receptions).


              Opening point spread: Oregon State by 3

              Prediction: Oregon State 23, Notre Dame 21

              MVP: Oregon State QB Derek Anderson
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              • #52
                Guys, site is running verrrry slow today, I might not be able to get the consensus up b4 1st game. Looking for a volunteer to count them up(dont include cbs or sagarin), there are 33 cappers I've been using for the consensus and all the picks are available on pg 1 and this page. Hope someone will help today.
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                • #53
                  sports network

                  The Sports Network

                  By Ralph Lauro, College Football Staff Writer

                  GAME NOTES: Two teams that finished near or at the top of their respective conferences meet in the 29th annual Independence Bowl, as the Miami-Ohio RedHawks square off against the Iowa State Cyclones from Independence Stadium in Shreveport. Louisiana. The RedHawks won the Mid-American Conference East Division title this season, allowing them to earn a postseason berth. Although he team lost to Toledo in the MAC championship game, it still finished a solid 8-4 overall. Miami-Ohio, which defeated Louisville, 49-28, in last year's GMAC Bowl, is making its ninth overall bowl appearance and has posted a 6-2 record through the first eight contests. As for Iowa State, it won a share of the Big 12 Conference's North Division title at 4-4, marking the school's first league title of any kind in football since 1912. The Cyclones were able to earn a share of the division crown by winning four of their last five game en route to a 6-5 overall ledger. ISU, which has advanced to a bowl for the third time in the past four years, is a dismal 1-6 all-time in bowl games. Included in those losses was a heartbreaking 14-13 setback to Alabama in the 2001 Independence Bowl. This game marks the first-ever meeting between Miami-Ohio and Iowa State on the gridiron.

                  Miami-Ohio has found a tremendous amount of success on the offensive side of the ball this season and is turning in 32.8 ppg behind 408.0 total ypg. The team is producing 125.1 ypg on the ground and 282.9 ypg through the air with 24 rushing touchdowns and 23 passing scores. However, the offense has been slowed at times because of mistakes, as the team has committed 29 turnovers thus far. Play caller Josh Betts leads the RedHawk offense and has thrown 22 touchdowns against 13 interceptions. He is completing a solid 62.1 percent of his pass attempts for an average of 271.2 ypg. His main outlets are Ryne Robinson and Michael Larkin, and the two have grabbed 57 and 55 passes, respectively. Robinson also has 831 receiving yards and four scores to his credit, while Larkin checks in with 813 yards and a team-best eight scores. Luke Clemens leads the Miami ground attack with 877 yards and 12 scores. He has carried the ball over 200 times this season with an average of 4.3 ypc.

                  Defensively, the RedHawks have been surprisingly solid this season and are giving up just 23.4 ppg and 332.9 total ypg. The unit has done a tremendous job against the run, surrendering only 108.8 ypg and 12 touchdowns. The defense has also forced a respectable 20 turnovers, while generating an impressive 38 sacks. Marcus Johnson has certainly made the biggest impact on the defense this season and he leads the team in TFLs (12.5) and sacks (7.5), part of his 53 total stops. Matt Pusateri has also done a tremendous job in posting a team-best 86 tackles and two interceptions. Right behind him is John Busing, who has 82 tackles, including six TFLs.

                  Unlike Miami-Ohio, the Cyclones haven't been all that productive on offense, averaging just 20.8 ppg and 321.8 total ypg. The team has had some difficulty running the ball with an average of just 127.8 ppg on a dismal 2.9 ypc. Although the team hasn't had a ton of success running the ball, Stevie Hicks has put up some decent numbers with 903 yards and four scores. He is averaging a respectable 82.1 ypg, despite on just 3.7 ypc. Play-caller Bret Meyer has also added to the ground attack with 209 yards and two scores. He is also completing 53.1 percent of his tosses for an average of 164.7 ypg with 10 touchdowns against six picks. Todd Blythe has certainly been the team's most explosive player, as he has made 36 catches for 791 yards and nine touchdowns. Jon Davis has also gotten into the mix with a club-best 45 grabs for 584 yards and two scores.

                  On the defensive side of the ball is where the Cyclones have made a name for themselves this season, giving up just 22.4 ppg on 332.1 total ypg. The unit has been outstanding against the pass, yielding only 185.7 ypg with 14 touchdowns against 16 interceptions. Iowa State has forced 24 turnovers overall, in addition to recording 21 sacks. Ellis Hobbs has performed at a high level all year and leads the team in interceptions (four), while ranking third in tackles with 67. Nik Moser is second in both tackles (75) and interceptions (three), while Steve Paris leads the club in stops with 80. Nick Leaders has been responsible for getting pressure on opposing quarterbacks, as he his 10.5 TFLs and five sacks are both first on the club.

                  It should be a close game between two teams from vastly different conferences. The MAC is a more wide open league, while the Big 12 is a bit more focused on defense. However, Miami-Ohio not only has a good offense but a solid defense as well and that is why it will come out on top.

                  Sports Network Predicted Outcome: Miami-Ohio 31, Iowa State 21
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                  • #54
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                    The Sports Network

                    By Pat Taggart, College Football Writer

                    GAME NOTES: The Notre Dame Fighting Irish and Oregon State Beavers will travel to Phoenix to participate in the Insight Bowl on December 28th. Notre Dame gained plenty of attention recently, much of it negative, for the decision to fire head coach Tyrone Willingham before his contract was complete. Willingham will not coach in this contest, as current Irish defensive coordinator Kent Baer will serve as the interim coach. As for the permanent replacement of Willingham, New England Patriots' offensive coordinator Charlie Weis has been hired and signed to a six-year contract. The 2004 season has been one marred with inconsistency for Notre Dame, as the team's 6-5 record is comprised of several impressive wins and a few embarrassing losses. Three of the five losses have come by three or fewer points, but it was the lopsided 41-10 defeat at the hands of the top-ranked USC Trojans in the finale that seemed to signal the end for Willingham. As for Oregon State, which finished 6-5 overall and tied for third in the Pac-10 Conference with Arizona State, it is making its second Insight Bowl appearance. The first came in 2002 when the squad dropped a 38-13 decision to Pittsburgh. This matchup with the Fighting Irish is a rematch of the 2001 Tostitos Fiesta Bowl when Oregon State concluded what was arguably its best season ever with a 41-9 victory over Notre Dame. That game marked the only previous matchup between the teams.

                    Last season, Willingham made a commitment to then-freshman quarterback Brady Quinn. As a sophomore this year, Quinn has thrown for 2,372 yards with 15 touchdowns and nine interceptions. There is certainly room for improvement, as his 53.7 percent completion percentage is below average. Rhema McKnight is the top option on the outside in regard to catches, as he has made 38 grabs for 520 yards. The most dangerous receiver however, has been the speedster Matt Shelton, as he has racked up 518 yards and six touchdowns on only 19 catches. Maurice Stovall continues to be a disappointment, as he has digressed for two years now, after showing flashes of brilliance as a freshman in 2002. As for the running game, freshman Darius Walker leads the way with 743 yards six scores. He is complemented by senior back Ryan Grant, who has posted 496 yards and five touchdowns as more of a banger than a slasher. Notre Dame is averaging 24.4 ppg and 351.8 total ypg, decent numbers, but ones that aren't going to scare many teams.

                    The Fighting Irish are surrendering 22.8 ppg 368.6 total ypg, numbers that, like the team's offense, are solid but certainly not spectacular. The strength of the defense has clearly been its ability to stop the run, as opponents are gaining only 94.4 ypg on an average of 2.7 ypc. In 11 games, foes have reached the end zone on the ground five times. Unfortunately, the team hasn't been nearly as formidable against the pass, as foes are racking up 274.3 ypg through the air against the Fighting Irish. While Notre Dame has posted nine interceptions, it has been victimized for 19 passing touchdowns. The defense has posted 27 sacks through 11 games, and Justin Tuck is clearly the most feared pass rusher. Although his numbers are off from a year ago when he set the Notre Dame single-season sack record with 13.5, Tuck has fought through constant double and triple-teamming to post six sacks, and he was recently named the squad's MVP by his teammates. Linebacker Mike Goolsby is also important to the Irish defense, as he leads the way with 94 total tackles to go along with two interceptions.

                    Last year, Oregon State depended heavily on its running game, and star tailback Steven Jackson was more than capable of carrying the load. Jackson went on to be the first back taken in April's NFL Draft, and the Beavers have not done a good job of finding a replacement. They are averaging only 74.5 ypg on the ground on an average of 2.3 ypg, embarrassing stats for a proud program. The lack of potent rushing attack has put extra pressure on quarterback Derek Anderson to carry the offensive load, and he has responded by throwing for 3,257 yards and 25 touchdowns. Sure, Anderson has completed only 53.4 percent of his throws and tossed 17 interceptions, but defenses have been able to key on him because of a weak rushing threat. Mike Hass has racked up 81 grabs for 1,274 yards with seven touchdowns, making him one of the nation's premier receivers from a statistical standpoint. He has more than twice as many yards as his closest teammate and is simply irreplaceable.

                    From a defensive standpoint, Oregon State is surrendering only 316.7 total ypg. The play against the run has been stellar, as the Beavers are giving up 122.6 ypg on an average of 3.5 ypc. While they have given up 23 passing touchdowns, it must be pointed out that opposing quarterbacks have completed well below 50 percent of their passes. With 30 takeaways, including 18 interceptions, Oregon State has certainly been opportunistic. Senior safety Mitch Meeuwsen leads the way for the club with six picks, and super sophomore safety Sabby Piscitelli is close behind with five interceptions. Defensive end Bill Swancutt is actually the team's most high-profile performer, as he was recently named Pac-10 Co-Defensive Player of the Year. He is the first Oregon State player to earn the honor on either side of the ball, and he is the only unanimous selection on this year's All-Pac-10 Conference Football Team. Swancutt ranks second in the Pac-10 in both sacks (11.5) and tackles for loss (18.5), and he has career totals of 37 sacks and 59.5 TFLs, both Oregon State career records.

                    It remains to be seen how Notre Dame will play without Willingham on the sidelines. Give a slight edge to the Fighting Irish based on Oregon State's inability to run the ball, although it certainly won't be surprising if the Beavers come out on top.

                    Sports Network Predicted Outcome: Notre Dame 27, Oregon State 24
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                    • #55
                      Sagarin Ratings

                      Rating: IS by 7.57 pts
                      Predictor: IS by 4.79 pts
                      Mia SOS(strength of schedule) - 139
                      IS SOS - 42
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                      • #56
                        Sagarin Ratings

                        Rating: OS by 5.51 pts
                        Predictor: OS by 5.42 pts
                        OS SOS(strength of schedule) - 1
                        ND SOS - 16
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                        • #57
                          tODAYS CONSENSUS

                          consensus Record 3-4

                          Miami 18
                          iowa st 15

                          Ore st 21
                          ND 12
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                          • #58
                            Msnbc

                            UTEP (8-3)
                            vs.
                            Colorado (7-5)

                            Date: Dec. 29

                            Time: 4:30 p.m. ET

                            Location: Houston

                            Television: ESPN

                            Payout: $1.1 million

                            Last result: Texas Tech 38, Navy 14

                            Bowl history/last appearance: UTEP 5-5 (lost 38-23 to Boise State in 2000 Humanitarian); Colorado 11-14 (lost 31-28, OT, to Wisconsin in 2002 Alamo)

                            Series: First meeting

                            2004 results: UTEP; Colorado

                            2004 statistics: UTEP; Colorado

                            Coaches: Mike Price (UTEP); Gary Barnett (Colorado)

                            What UTEP has to do to win: Sit back and let Carson Palmer’s little brother look like Carson Palmer. The UTEP QB, Jordan Palmer, should be able to throw for 300 yards against a not-so-good Colorado defense. This season not a bad rebound from disaster for Mike Price, the ex-Alabama coach.

                            What Colorado has to do to win: The Buffaloes need to get some work on pass defense between now and the bowl game. The Miners can throw it all over the field and run up some points if Colorado doesn’t have a scheme.

                            Opening point spread: Colorado by 2

                            Prediction: UTEP 31, Colorado 21.

                            MVP: UTEP QB Jordan Palmer.
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                            • #59
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                              No. 24 Ohio State (7-4)
                              vs.
                              Oklahoma State (7-4)

                              Date: Dec. 29

                              Time: 8 p.m. ET

                              Location: San Antonio

                              Television: ESPN

                              Payout: $1.55 million

                              Last result: Nebraska 17, Michigan State 3

                              Bowl history/last appearance: Ohio State 16-19 (won 35-28 over Kansas State in 2004 Fiesta); Oklahoma State 10-5 (lost 31-28 to Mississippi in 2004 Cotton)

                              Series: Ohio State leads 1-0 (37-13 in '89)

                              2004 results: Ohio State; Oklahoma State

                              2004 statistics: Ohio State; Oklahoma State

                              Coaches: Jim Tressel (Ohio State); Les Miles (Oklahoma State)

                              What Ohio State has to do to win: Just what it has to do in the Big Ten week to week — stop the run. The Buckeyes will see a good running game from the Cowboys so play up front and with LBs will be key. Ohio State was fifth in the Big Ten in run defense (128).

                              What Oklahoma State has to do to win: Remember RB Vernand Morency. Ohio State will load up on him early, so the Cowboys have to finesse a little, but then come back to their main weapon and run the ball. The Buckeyes have better skill players on offense than Oklahoma State has on defense, but there is a month to scheme to even things up.

                              Opening point spread: Oklahoma State by 2

                              Prediction: Ohio State 28, Oklahoma State 21.

                              MVP: Ohio State QB Troy Smith.
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                              • #60
                                sports network

                                The Sports Network

                                By Gregg Xenakes, College Football Staff Writer

                                GAME NOTES: After coming under fire at his last post before even coaching a single game, head coach Mike Price has bounced back in fine fashion and has brought his Miners of Texas-El Paso into the postseason and a date with the Colorado Buffaloes in the annual Houston Bowl. Price, who has coached previously at Weber State and Washington State, was all set to take the Alabama Crimson Tide back to the top in the SEC a couple of seasons ago, but was dismissed before even getting started. Now he gets the last laugh with the Miners, pushing them to a national ranking earlier this season and helping the program to just its fourth winning record since 1971. UTEP looked dead in the water coming out of the gate in 2004, losing to both Arizona State and Boise State during the first three weeks of the campaign, with only a 32-0 triumph over Weber State in between. Then the Western Athletic Conference schedule kicked into high gear and the squad ran off seven straight wins before falling to Tulsa in the regular season finale on the road, 37-35. As for the Buffaloes, they squeaked into the bowl scene only after winning their final three regular season games in the Big 12 Conference and moving on to the league championship game against Oklahoma. Although Colorado was embarrassed by the Sooners, 42-3, the squad still earned the right to appear in a bonus matchup. The Buffs, who first played in the Cotton Bowl versus Rice in 1938 (losing 28-14), have an 11-14 record in bowl contests after losing in the Alamo Bowl to Wisconsin in overtime last season, 31-28. Prior to a 38-16 setback to Oregon in the Fiesta Bowl in 2002, the school had reeled off six straight bowl wins between 1993-1999. The Miners on the other hand, are an even 5-5 in postseason games, last participating in the Humanitarian Bowl against Boise State in 2000, a meeting that resulted in a 38-23 setback. Aside from playing in the Independence Bowl in 1988 versus Southern Miss, UTEP has participated only in the Sun Bowl previously between 1937-1967, where it was 5-3. Last year the Houston Bowl, now in its five year, pitted Texas Tech against Navy in a 38-14 win for the Red Raiders.

                                Under the direction of six-year head coach Gary Barnett, the Buffaloes had the top punting unit in the nation, averaging 42.4 yards per kick, but other than that the squad was rather ordinary this season. Running back Bobby Purify was recognized for his efforts, accounting for 1,017 of the team's 1,405 rushing yards this season. The team generated 14 rushing scores, of which, nine were posted by Purify. Quarterback Joel Klatt completed 57.5 percent of his passing attempts for 2,065 yards for an average of close to 11 yards per connection. However, he threw just nine touchdowns and was picked off 15 times which is a huge reason why the team produced only 327.3 ypg in total offense, almost 100 yards less than they were giving up to opponents in 2004. As many as seven different players had at least 20 receptions for the Buffaloes, and while spreading the ball around often kept defenses on their toes, it did little to establish a quality go-to guy in the clutch. Evan Judge led the program with 29 catches, Blake Mackey put up a team-best 417 yards on 26 receptions and Joe Klopfenstein accounted for a team-high four TD catches.

                                Coming out of the locker room in both the first and third quarter seemed to suit the Buffaloes, holding opponents to a combined 56 and 58 points, respectively, in those two periods. However, as the games wore on the defense faded a bit for Colorado, giving up 86 points in the second and 101 in the fourth frame along the way. Opposing offenses ran an average of about 10 more plays per game, resulting in 426.6 ypg versus the Big 12 program, it also didn't help that the Buffs were penalized 20 more times than the opposition as well. Brian Iwuh led the defense in tackles with 98 stops, making a team- high 12 for a loss of 23 yards. Thaddaeus Washington and Jordon Dizon followed with 93 and 82 tackles, respectively, which means the top three tacklers for the Buffaloes were all linebackers. In fact, four of the top five tacklers for the unit roamed the middle of the field, which means that plays often made significant yardage long before Colorado managed to put an end to them. Iwuh returned his one interception for a touchdown, meaning the Buffs had three picks brought back for scores in 2004.

                                Except for a late burst by quarterback Jordan Palmer, the UTEP offense was pretty much predicated on how well running back Howard Jackson set the tone. As a two-time WAC First-Team selection, Jackson accounted for 223 of the team's 427 running plays this year, putting up 1,150 yards and nine touchdowns. Even though he may have been run down a bit, there was no denying the heart of Jackson as he averaged better than five yards per carry for UTEP over 11 games. Palmer, who at the end of the 2003 season appeared to be a rising force in the UTEP plans, hit 59 percent of his attempts for 2,490 yards and 24 touchdowns this year. The sophomore slinger came alive in the final two games of the season with 651 yards and seven TDs to help propel the squad into the postseason. In terms of the receiving corps, Palmer turned to Jayson Boyd (35 catches) and Chris Francies (31) more often than other outlets, resulting in four touchdowns for each player, but the top receiver for the Miners had to be another second-year player, Johnnie Lee Higgins. Averaging a team-best 21.4 yards per catch, Higgins turned his 27 receptions into 578 yards and nine touchdowns, resulting in a All-WAC Second Team nomination.

                                For the UTEP defense, the unit begins and ends with a 6-1, 230- pound linebacker named Robert Rodriguez. The senior was named the Defensive Player of the Year in the Western Athletic Conference after being put on the All- WAC Second Team a year ago. Rodriguez finished the regular season as the league's all-time tackler with 429 stops and the top man with 31.5 stops for loss. Ironically, while he has led the conference in total tackles in two different seasons, this was not one of them as he placed second with 107 stops. Rodriguez did come in first in the WAC in average stops per game with 9.7, also good enough for 28th in the nation. Fellow linebacker Godwin Akinduro didn't get as much ink playing in the shadows, but he too had a strong campaign with 90 tackles to rank fifth in the league. Rodriguez was first in the WAC in forced fumbles with four, which explains how the unit ranks fourth in the nation in gained turnovers with 30. Chosen as the Co-Freshman of the Year in the WAC, free safety Quintin Demps made quite an impact in his first season with the Miners, placing fourth on the team in tackles with 51, of which 44 were solo. He was tied with Adrian Ward (five interceptions) in tackles and had two picks and two forced fumbles of his own this year, not to mention one of the team's five blocked kicks.

                                It has been quite a long time since the Miners have ended a season with a win (1986) and judging by the trends it might not look like the squad will have much luck against Colorado since they've dropped 11 in a row versus Big 12 schools. However, this is a thriving UTEP program that is going to get better with every game that Palmer plays, so expect the Miner offense to play well, but the defense to carry them through to the victory.

                                Sports Network Predicted Outcome: Texas-El Paso 31, Colorado 14
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