Saturday's Service Plays Thread

[fleetfox]

oh yeah

Animal 4.5 *
Kansas City

[THICK 1]

TY fleetfox

THANKS AGAIN

[seaofred]

good job fleetfox

fleetfox good job im all with you on that shit of people saying that is not somebodys play.hey if they know so much let them prove it and post it or just shut up and quit the negative garbage.

seaofred

[WICKEDLESTER]

Hey then watch what you put out before good people put good money down on WRONG plays. You just don't post any friggen thing you see from anywhere. Or do you?

Oh fleet now you got it right. Not the other team you had as the play. Watch you mouth also before .WIPE

[james1961]

THICK AND FLEET

Thank you for all your hard work in this forum.

[THICK 1]

WICKEDLESTER

LISTEN BUD

its a cinsensus report
unl;ess you are willing to pay me a hell of alot of money to sit down and take time to go thru each and every service that is on it and then find out if it is their actuall pick or not then shut the hell up .
or maybe you have the time to do it
i dont read every thing on here but what have you added to this forum and where is your posts that you have i think fleetfox posted the correct animal play after you came on here and said it was the wrong play, why didnt you post the correct play or is all you do is run your mouth and bad mouth others?

i get this consensus report and that is all i do i paid for the damn thing out of my freaking pocket and no one is paying me to post shit here or any other damn thing.
no why dont you shut the hell up or move your ass on, but dont come on here and dog mouth me for taking and using my time and my damn money to post stuff on here for free.
if you dont liek it get the hell out and leave or shut the f.... up.

[Okie Bob]

Thick & Fleet-Thanks

This site is great because of guys like you and others who post the service plays. Thanks again for all you work it does not go unnoticed.

Okie Bob

[bigbaddog]

Don't sweat it THICK

Everyone here appreciates your posts. My consensus report had it wrong too. Animal is very active in fighting against his plays being on these reports. All these consensus guys borrow from one another. If he can get one false play out on a board it will be on tons of reports and forums.

One I have seeen up here yet ...

Pro Tech Sports -- 10* Carolina

They are usually very good on 10*'s

[THICK 1]

yeah i know i shouldnt but ive looked back at some of his posts ,u can usually see him at the end of the consensus trying to cause crap and hell he will come on and give someone crap for a wrong play well like fleet or someone said if you know it is wrong then correct it with the correct one and move on and shut up dont criticize for people trying to help others and make or hope we win with these picks and help some out.
just hit me the wrong way i guess.
but its ok with me i know most want them or are not liek him i know this , and at least hope they are not or this would be hell to be.
and im looking at the hits on this thread go up like 100 hits every few minutes .
gl to you all and hope u all win.
hope i do also
lol

[guidette45]

Will Bettorstalk activate their service plays this season? If so, do you know when? That is the only page I can get on my mobile. Thanks!!

[GR8Life]

Wickedlester


I dont reply to post most of the time I usually try and give the info I have and let it be but in this case I cant pass this up.

Spark, Fleet and Thick are nice enough to post the info that most of them pay for and do it for free here at BC to try and help all of us win. If you know for a fact that a play is incorrect you should just post the correction and how you know it's correct and leave it at that...PERIOD!

GR8

[THICK 1]

SOME INFO FOR USC/VT

USC: The only thing negative about the 2003 USC campaign is that it had to share half of the national title with LSU. The Trojans’ weaker schedule a loss at Cal eventually left them out of the BCS title game and into a Rose Bowl dual with Michigan. They were up to the task against the Wolverines and finished the season at 12-1, covering 11 of those 13 games! For 2004, USC may have to go unscathed or face a similar fate, as the BCS formula frowns on soft schedules. USC’s may be the lightest of any serious contender. This team still remains the class of the Pac 10 though after consecutive dominating seasons. QB Matt Leinart is a favorite for the Heisman Trophy and the Trojans boast three all-American candidates on defense. They’ll face a stiff challenge right out of the gate at Virginia Tech.

VIRGINIA TECH: One thing that is easy to do is to overreact to teams’ returning players. That could easily be the case with Virginia Tech this season, as it returns just nine total starters from the 8-5 2003 team. In truth though, this team has been designated in “rebuilding” years several times in the past decade and has won at least eight games in 10 of the last 11 seasons. However, the five losses they suffered last year was their most since 1997, and their defensive stats and turnover margin were as poor as they’ve been in many years as well. The Hokies will need to regroup behind the playmaking of senior QB Bryan Randall. Though geographically sensible, the move to the ACC could prove harmful to Tech, as it has enjoyed a winning record historically over only UNC, NC State, Virginia and Wake.
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Potential Power Trends based on estimated statistics favoring USC to cover the spread
USC is 7-0 ATS (+7.0 Units) when they are outgain their opponents by 200 or more yards over the last 3 seasons.
The average score was USC 42.7, OPPONENT 13.0
USC is 6-0 ATS (+6.0 Units) when they commit 2 turnovers over the last 3 seasons.
The average score was USC 44.7, OPPONENT 17.2
USC is 18-5 ATS (+12.5 Units) when they gain 500 or more total yards since 1992.
The average score was USC 42.6, OPPONENT 19.0
USC is 12-0 ATS (+12.0 Units) when they gain 6.5 or more total yards per play over the last 3 seasons.
The average score was USC 43.4, OPPONENT 18.1
USC is 11-1 ATS (+9.9 Units) when they gain 9 or more net passing yards/attempt over the last 3 seasons.
The average score was USC 41.6, OPPONENT 18.2
USC is 7-0 ATS (+7.0 Units) when they gain 9.5 to 10 net passing yards/attempt over the last 3 seasons.
The average score was USC 43.3, OPPONENT 15.9
USC is 28-2 ATS (+25.8 Units) when they outgain their opponents by 2 or more yards/play since 1992.
The average score was USC 41.1, OPPONENT 11.6
USC is 18-3 ATS (+14.7 Units) when they score 28 or more points over the last 3 seasons.
The average score was USC 42.0, OPPONENT 19.3
VIRGINIA TECH is 1-7 ATS (-6.7 Units) when they allow 28 or more points over the last 3 seasons.
The average score was VIRGINIA TECH 32.1, OPPONENT 38.0
VIRGINIA TECH is 1-5 ATS (-4.5 Units) when they allow 35 to 41 since 1992.
The average score was VIRGINIA TECH 23.3, OPPONENT 38.7
VIRGINIA TECH is 4-14 ATS (-11.4 Units) when they allow 6.5 or more total yards per play since 1992.
The average score was VIRGINIA TECH 30.9, OPPONENT 35.7
VIRGINIA TECH is 4-20 ATS (-18.0 Units) when they allow 9 or more net passing yards/attempt since 1992.
The average score was VIRGINIA TECH 24.9, OPPONENT 35.0
VIRGINIA TECH is 2-10 ATS (-9.0 Units) when they are outgained by their opponents by 2 or more yards/play since 1992.
The average score was VIRGINIA TECH 20.0, OPPONENT 37.3
VIRGINIA TECH is 1-6 ATS (-5.6 Units) when they gain 150 to 200 net passing yards over the last 3 seasons.
The average score was VIRGINIA TECH 30.0, OPPONENT 24.0
VIRGINIA TECH is 1-5 ATS (-4.5 Units) when they score 15 to 21 points over the last 3 seasons.
The average score was VIRGINIA TECH 20.2, OPPONENT 19.3

Potential Power Trends based on estimated statistics favoring the OVER against the total
USC is 13-4 OVER (+8.6 Units) when they allow 7 to 7.5 net passing yards/attempt since 1992.
The average score was USC 27.8, OPPONENT 27.4
USC is 12-4 OVER (+7.6 Units) when they are outgain their opponents by 200 or more yards since 1992.
The average score was USC 42.6, OPPONENT 12.2
USC is 5-1 OVER (+3.9 Units) when they force and commit the same number of turnovers over the last 3 seasons.
The average score was USC 36.5, OPPONENT 20.7
USC is 10-1 OVER (+8.9 Units) when they gain 350 to 400 net passing yards since 1992.
The average score was USC 36.2, OPPONENT 22.1
USC is 15-3 OVER (+11.7 Units) when they gain 500 or more total yards since 1992.
The average score was USC 42.6, OPPONENT 19.0
USC is 20-8 OVER (+11.2 Units) when they gain 6.5 or more total yards per play since 1992.
The average score was USC 40.0, OPPONENT 20.0
USC is 7-1 OVER (+5.9 Units) when they rush for 150 to 200 yards over the last 3 seasons.
The average score was USC 44.1, OPPONENT 20.1
USC is 16-5 OVER (+10.5 Units) when they score 28 or more points over the last 3 seasons.
The average score was USC 42.0, OPPONENT 19.3
USC is 11-2 OVER (+8.8 Units) when they score 35 to 41 points since 1992.
The average score was USC 37.8, OPPONENT 25.8
VIRGINIA TECH is 8-1 OVER (+6.9 Units) when they allow 28 or more points over the last 3 seasons.
The average score was VIRGINIA TECH 32.1, OPPONENT 38.0
VIRGINIA TECH is 10-1 OVER (+8.9 Units) when they allow 6.5 or more total yards per play since 1992.
The average score was VIRGINIA TECH 30.9, OPPONENT 35.7
VIRGINIA TECH is 16-2 OVER (+13.8 Units) when they allow 9 or more net passing yards/attempt since 1992.
The average score was VIRGINIA TECH 24.9, OPPONENT 35.0
VIRGINIA TECH is 5-1 OVER (+3.9 Units) when they are outgained by their opponents by 2 or more yards/play since 1992.
The average score was VIRGINIA TECH 20.0, OPPONENT 37.3
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There are 9 trends with a total rating of 10 stars.
USC is 18-5 ATS (+12.5 Units) as a favorite over the last 3 seasons.
The average score was USC 39.8, OPPONENT 19.5 - (Rating = 2*)
USC is 20-6 ATS (+13.4 Units) in all games over the last 3 seasons.
The average score was USC 38.4, OPPONENT 18.4 - (Rating = 2*)
USC is 20-6 ATS (+13.4 Units) in all lined games over the last 3 seasons.
The average score was USC 38.4, OPPONENT 18.4 - (Rating = 2*)
USC is 18-4 ATS (+13.6 Units) in games played on a grass field over the last 3 seasons.
The average score was USC 39.3, OPPONENT 16.6 - (Rating = 3*)
USC is 5-1 ATS (+3.9 Units) in road games in non-conference games over the last 3 seasons.
The average score was USC 32.3, OPPONENT 12.5 - (Rating = 0*)
USC is 10-2 ATS (+7.8 Units) when the total is between 49.5 and 56 over the last 3 seasons.
The average score was USC 42.3, OPPONENT 22.3 - (Rating = 1*)
VIRGINIA TECH is 1-5 ATS (-4.5 Units) as a neutral field underdog since 1992.
The average score was VIRGINIA TECH 20.2, OPPONENT 35.7 - (Rating = 0*)
VIRGINIA TECH is 1-5 ATS (-4.5 Units) in road games as an underdog of 10.5 to 21 points since 1992.
The average score was VIRGINIA TECH 13.8, OPPONENT 35.3 - (Rating = 0*)
VIRGINIA TECH is 1-5 ATS (-4.5 Units) in road games when the total is between 49.5 and 56 over the last 3 seasons.
The average score was VIRGINIA TECH 32.0, OPPONENT 42.0 - (Rating = 0*)

Situational Power Trends favoring the OVER against the total
There are 5 trends with a total rating of 4 stars.
USC is 17-6 OVER (+10.4 Units) as a favorite over the last 3 seasons.
The average score was USC 39.8, OPPONENT 19.5 - (Rating = 2*)
USC is 9-1 OVER (+7.9 Units) as a favorite of 10.5 to 21 points over the last 3 seasons.
The average score was USC 40.8, OPPONENT 20.9 - (Rating = 1*)
USC is 10-2 OVER (+7.8 Units) when the total is between 49.5 and 56 over the last 3 seasons.
The average score was USC 42.3, OPPONENT 22.3 - (Rating = 1*)
VIRGINIA TECH is 12-4 OVER (+7.6 Units) in road games as an underdog since 1992.
The average score was VIRGINIA TECH 22.2, OPPONENT 29.9 - (Rating = 0*)
VIRGINIA TECH is 5-1 OVER (+3.9 Units) in road games when the total is between 49.5 and 56 over the last 3 seasons.
The average score was VIRGINIA TECH 32.0, OPPONENT 42.0 - (Rating = 0*)

[rainman]

real rainman

usc-16 late phone play

[Spark]

Originally posted by GR8Life
Wickedlester


I dont reply to post most of the time I usually try and give the info I have and let it be but in this case I cant pass this up.

Spark, Fleet and Thick are nice enough to post the info that most of them pay for and do it for free here at BC to try and help all of us win. If you know for a fact that a play is incorrect you should just post the correction and how you know it's correct and leave it at that...PERIOD!

GR8

Well, I just opened my computer in time to read these posts in this thread....bigbaddog has it correct... Just read his post again and you will see the problem... it certainly is not fox... do you really think this kid would sit here all day to help us and then give out a wrong play knowingly... and it comes right off of his report You can see that...You can believe me when I tell EVERYONE here how giving fleetfox is... He never asks for a thing but always gives... Just like you THICK... I do not want to comment on Animal yet because I converse with THE ANIMAL and I want to be 100% sure this is what he is doing....

Thank You GR, You have always had our backs and you can count on the team here to have yours...

Wickedlester, Please do me a favor and the next time you see a post that is different than what you have.... just post what you have and tell us... You will be appreciated that way... trust me... We have conversed in the past and we had no problems...
Thanks

[griswold]

deNiro, Rosenthal and Rothstein

Since all picks are in, I'll spend a moment on the posts today on the movie Casino and exactly who DeNiro played, because there is a scamdicapper angle here.

As the last post correctly stated, the character DeNiro played was modeled after Frank "Lefty" Rosenthal. His name was changed in the movie, of course, as the movie was a fiction "based" on real life. The movie character was nicknamed "Ace." Here's where the scamdicapping comes in.

There is a slimeball who runs tons of ads in the Daily Racing Form, and elsewhere, selling picks calling himself Sam "Ace" Rothstein. It's a total ripoff of the movie. The whole name is made up. In fact, the picture of the guy in the ads is just a model! There is no Sam Ace Roithstein. The picks are churned out by a scam operation based somewhere. He's kind of like the Stu Feiner of horseracing and is now branching out into sports. He's even "authored" a book that was written by someone else.

Lefty Rosenthal, on the other hand, is the real guy, still puts out picks and runs a service. he is the character DeNiro played. He is a legit service. Sam Ace Rothstein is a Feist/Feiner type phone mill that doesn't even have an actual handicapper.