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  • #61
    here is something else that i just read....

    dogs in bowl games that won the previous year are 23-12 ats, including 15-3 ats vs. an opponent that won 8 or less games last year....




    Here would be the list of Dogs this year that won their bowl game last year:

    Utah *---WINNER
    Fla Atl ----WINNER
    BYU *----LOSER
    ECU *---LOSER
    Penn St ---LOSER
    Oregon *---WINNER
    WVU *----LOSER
    LSU *---- WINNER
    Tulsa *

    * = opp won 8 or less games last year


    4-4 SO FAR THIS YEAR

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    • #62
      Other bowl systems / trends:


      2003-04 Season
      Dogs of 7 or better(meaning +8......) went 7-3 ATS 70%
      Favs of 6.5 or better(meaning -6,-5.5.....) went 9-6 ATS 60%
      For a total of 16-9 ATS 64% winners

      2004-05 Season
      Dogs of 7 or better went 7-2 ATS 78%
      Favs of 6.5 or beter went 10-7 59%
      For a total of 17-9 ATS 64% winners

      2005-06 Season
      Dogs of 7 or better went 13-1 ATS 93%
      Favs of 6.5 or better went 7-5 ATS 58%
      For a total of 20-6 ATS 77% winners

      2006-07 Season
      Dogs of 7 or better went 9-5 ATS 64%
      Favs of 6.5 or better went 8-11 ATS 42%
      For a total of 17-16 ATS 52% winners

      2007-08 Season
      Dogs of 7 or better went 7-3 ATS 70%
      Favs of 6.5 or better went 15-8 ATS 65%
      For a total of 23-11 ATS 68% winners

      *Includes buying .5 hook either way so -7 can be +7.5 or -6.5



      Wake Forest -3---- WINNER
      Fresno St -3'-------LOSER
      Memphis +13'--------LOSER
      Arizona -3'---------WINNER
      Troy -4------------LOSER
      TCU -2------------LOSER
      Notre Dame - 2'----WINNER
      Flor ATL + 7' ----WINNER
      WVU/UNC -1 -----PUSH
      Florida St -5------WINNER
      Miami + 9 ---------WINNER
      L TECH - 2 1/2 ---- WINNER
      NC St + 8 -------WINNER
      NW +13'----------WINNER
      Nevada -2--------LOSER
      Rice -3----------WINNER
      Oregon - 1 ---- WINNER
      Houston -3'----WINNER
      Oregon St -2-----WINNER
      Vndy + 7-----WINNER
      Minnesota +9----LOSER
      GTech -4----LOSER
      Iowa -3'----WINNER
      Clemson -2'--LOSER
      Penn St +9---LOSER
      Cincy -2'----LOSER
      Texas Tech -4 -- LOSER
      Mich st + 7'---LOSER
      ECU -2'---LOSER
      Utah +10'- WINNER
      UConn -4'
      Ohio St +10
      Ball St -2'
      Florida -3



      16-13 --1 SO FAR THIS YEAR


      FAVS OR 6 OR LESS = 10-9-1
      DOGS OF 7 OR MORE = 6-4

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      • #63
        Here's an interesting stat for the bowl games I come accross on another board. 1-0 so far with Wake Forest winning and it has 2 more for today, So. Fla & Arizona, I was liking the Memphis & BYU. Will have to do somemore homework on these 2.

        11-1 last season:
        Here it is: Of the top 60 Sagarin-rated teams, FADE EVERY team ATS whose strength of schedule rating is 60 or worse unless they are facing a team whose SOS rating is even lower than theirs.

        So here are the teams to take ATS this year:
        1. Wake Forest win
        2. South Florida win
        3. Arizona win
        4. TCU loss
        5. Notre Dame win
        6. NC State win
        7. Missouri loss
        8. Maryland win
        9. Rice win
        10. Air Force -loss
        11. Kansas --win
        12. USC --- WIN
        13. Kentucky - WIN
        14. Alabama --LOSS
        15. Connecticut
        16. Ball State



        10-4 THIS YEAR

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        • #64
          Tulsa - Ohio St ---And Uconn Are The Big Remaining Plays

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          • #65
            Originally posted by GOLDENGREEK View Post
            Tulsa - Ohio St ---And Uconn Are The Big Remaining Plays

            Greek how is that chick in your avatar, I've seen her on the internet before and it's driving me nuts, do you know her name? Smok'in

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            • #66
              UPDATED AS OF 01 / 06



              Here's an interesting stat for the bowl games I come accross on another board. 1-0 so far with Wake Forest winning and it has 2 more for today, So. Fla & Arizona, I was liking the Memphis & BYU. Will have to do somemore homework on these 2.

              11-1 last season:
              Here it is: Of the top 60 Sagarin-rated teams, FADE EVERY team ATS whose strength of schedule rating is 60 or worse unless they are facing a team whose SOS rating is even lower than theirs.

              So here are the teams to take ATS this year:
              1. Wake Forest win
              2. South Florida win
              3. Arizona win
              4. TCU loss
              5. Notre Dame win
              6. NC State win
              7. Missouri loss
              8. Maryland win
              9. Rice win
              10. Air Force -loss
              11. Kansas --win
              12. USC --- WIN
              13. Kentucky - WIN
              14. Alabama --LOSS
              15. Connecticut --WIN
              16. Ball State



              11-4 THIS YEAR

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              • #67
                Other bowl systems / trends:


                2003-04 Season
                Dogs of 7 or better(meaning +8......) went 7-3 ATS 70%
                Favs of 6.5 or better(meaning -6,-5.5.....) went 9-6 ATS 60%
                For a total of 16-9 ATS 64% winners

                2004-05 Season
                Dogs of 7 or better went 7-2 ATS 78%
                Favs of 6.5 or beter went 10-7 59%
                For a total of 17-9 ATS 64% winners

                2005-06 Season
                Dogs of 7 or better went 13-1 ATS 93%
                Favs of 6.5 or better went 7-5 ATS 58%
                For a total of 20-6 ATS 77% winners

                2006-07 Season
                Dogs of 7 or better went 9-5 ATS 64%
                Favs of 6.5 or better went 8-11 ATS 42%
                For a total of 17-16 ATS 52% winners

                2007-08 Season
                Dogs of 7 or better went 7-3 ATS 70%
                Favs of 6.5 or better went 15-8 ATS 65%
                For a total of 23-11 ATS 68% winners

                *Includes buying .5 hook either way so -7 can be +7.5 or -6.5



                Wake Forest -3---- WINNER
                Fresno St -3'-------LOSER
                Memphis +13'--------LOSER
                Arizona -3'---------WINNER
                Troy -4------------LOSER
                TCU -2------------LOSER
                Notre Dame - 2'----WINNER
                Flor ATL + 7' ----WINNER
                WVU/UNC -1 -----PUSH
                Florida St -5------WINNER
                Miami + 9 ---------WINNER
                L TECH - 2 1/2 ---- WINNER
                NC St + 8 -------WINNER
                NW +13'----------WINNER
                Nevada -2--------LOSER
                Rice -3----------WINNER
                Oregon - 1 ---- WINNER
                Houston -3'----WINNER
                Oregon St -2-----WINNER
                Vndy + 7-----WINNER
                Minnesota +9----LOSER
                GTech -4----LOSER
                Iowa -3'----WINNER
                Clemson -2'--LOSER
                Penn St +9---LOSER
                Cincy -2'----LOSER
                Texas Tech -4 -- LOSER
                Mich st + 7'---LOSER
                ECU -2'---LOSER
                Utah +10'- WINNER
                UConn -4'--WINNER
                Ohio St +10 -- Winner
                Ball St -2'
                Florida -3



                18-13 --1 SO FAR THIS YEAR


                FAVS OR 6 OR LESS = 11-9-1
                DOGS OF 7 OR MORE = 7-4

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                • #68
                  here is something else that i just read....

                  dogs in bowl games that won the previous year are 23-12 ats, including 15-3 ats vs. an opponent that won 8 or less games last year....




                  Here would be the list of Dogs this year that won their bowl game last year:

                  Utah *---WINNER
                  Fla Atl ----WINNER
                  BYU *----LOSER
                  ECU *---LOSER
                  Penn St ---LOSER
                  Oregon *---WINNER
                  WVU *----LOSER
                  LSU *---- WINNER
                  Tulsa *

                  * = opp won 8 or less games last year


                  4-4 SO FAR THIS YEAR

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                  • #69
                    RUNNING DOG SYSTEM ...23-9 LAST YEAR


                    This is a list of all of the best rushing teams in the bowl games. This system worked very well the last couple of years. The best scenario to look for is a team with the best rushing stats, with a good defense and getting the points etc.. This better "run" team info is based on (YPC gained vs opponents YPC allowed on offense & vice versa on defense).

                    The best rush teams hit at a pretty high clip of over 60%..But if you pick and choose here with the other qualifications I listed above like good defense or tougher schedules etc. then you could really clean up with this system





                    STOLEN / BORROWED FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THE SYSTEM

                    I'm pretty much going to follow the same formula as I did last year. We had an outstanding bowl season with the running dogs. The better running teams in general were 22-10 SU and 23-9 ATS last year. But keep in mind that they aren't going to hit this well every year. In the 2006 bowl season the better running teams were 20-12 SU but only 18-14 ATS. So we have to be careful as we go, and to just remember that none of these Running Dogs are set in granite. The underdogs who had the better run numbers were 10-4 ATS last year. And 7-3 (71%) the season before. So that's why you really need to think hard before you go against a running dog. But at times we did last year. Remember the Arkansas/Missouri game. Arkansas had the much better run numbers and were the dogs in that game. But because of the other strong angles surrounding the game that went against Arkansas, I was on Missouri. So there will be exceptions to the rule. And I've already seen a couple running dogs that I will in all likihood be playing against.


                    Here is the list of running dogs for this year ( 10-4 ATS last year ):


                    Navy --------------LOSER
                    Colorado St.--------WINNER
                    BYU----------------LOSER
                    Notre Dame--------WINNER
                    Florida Atlantic-----WINNER
                    Wisconsin ---------LOSER
                    La Tech------------WINNER
                    Western Michi------LOSER
                    Oregon----- ------WINNER
                    Air Force----------LOSER
                    Nebraska ---------WINNER
                    Ole Miss----------WINNER
                    Kentucky--------WINNER
                    Tulsa


                    8-5 SO FAR THIS YEAR COMPARED TO 10-4 LAST YEAR

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                    • #70
                      Moneyline / Rankings etc.. System

                      This System went 33-14 last year !!!



                      ** Some games overlapp and show up twice (Teams that hit in more than one system hit a high percentage last year) , other conflict and cancell each other out




                      2 Units-Bet the dog if the teams have exactly the same won lost record

                      THIS IS THE WEAKEST OF THE BUNCH -- WENT 2-3 LAST YEAR

                      Maryland ----WINNER
                      W Michigan---LOSER
                      Oregon-----WINNER
                      Minnesota--- LOSER
                      Mich St ---- LOSER
                      Penn St----- LOSER
                      Oklahoma


                      2-4 SO FAR THIS YEAR




                      3 Units and 5 Units
                      Bet the team with the worst season record for 3 Units if a dog.
                      If that team is a favorite, play them on the money line for a risk of 5 Units:



                      THIS SYSTEM WHEN 19-7 LAST YEAR:

                      3 UNIT PLAYS:

                      Bet the team with the worst season record for 3 Units if a dog.

                      Colo St--- WINNER
                      Memphis---- LOSER
                      So Miss----WINNER
                      Fla Atl----WINNER
                      Wisky---LOSER
                      Miami---WINNER
                      NC St----WINNER
                      Vandy ---WINNER
                      LSU------- WINNER
                      So Carolina -LOSER
                      Va Tech--- WINNER
                      Mississippi - -WINNER
                      Kentucky---WINNER
                      Ohio St ----WINNER
                      Tulsa

                      11-3 SO FAR THIS YEAR






                      5 UNIT PLAYS: If that team is a favorite, play them on the money line for a risk of 5 Units

                      THIS SYSTEM WENT 10-1 LAST YEAR

                      5 Unit Money Line Plays:

                      Wake Forest ---WINNER
                      Arizona-----WINNER
                      TCU-------WINNER
                      Notre Dame-----WINNER
                      No Ill- ** became a 2 1/2 point dog ** void
                      Houston ----WINNER
                      Oregon St----WINNER
                      Clemson----- LOSER
                      UCONN -------WINNER
                      ** TULSA ( ADDED ) - NOW A FAV -----

                      2 MORE ARE QUESTIONABLE:

                      ** Alabama ---Huge moneyline to lay 5 Units - Be Careful

                      ??????** Missouri ---------- MISSOURI PLAYED AN EXTRA GAME - THEY ARE 9-4 AND NORTHWESTERN IS 9-3 - NOT SURE IF THIS SHOULD BE COUNTED

                      7-1 OR 8-2










                      Lower Ranked Teams as a dog to higher Ranked Teams

                      THIS WENT 3-2 LAST YEAR

                      Oregon --- WINNER
                      Michigan St--LOSER
                      Penn St---LOSER
                      Va Tech---WINNER
                      Mississippi -WINNER
                      Utah----WINNER
                      Ohio St --WINNER
                      Oklahoma

                      *** Florida ( ????? ) THESE TWO TEAMS ( OLKAHOMA / FLORIDA ) ARE EITHER HIGHER OR LOWER RANKED THAN THEIR OPPONENT DEPENDING ON WHICH POLL YOU LOOK AT

                      5-2 SO FAR





                      Lower Ranked Teams as a favorite vs Higher Ranked Teams

                      THIS WENT 3-0 LAST YEAR

                      TCU---------LOSER
                      Oregon St -----WINNER


                      1-1





                      A team not Ranked as a dog to a Ranked Team:

                      THIS WENT 6-1 LAST YEAR - NOT AS MANY OPPORTUNITIES THIS YEAR cry1

                      LSU ---- WINNER
                      Tulsa


                      1-0






                      A team not Ranked that is a favorite over a Ranked Team


                      THIS WENT 1-1 LAST YEAR

                      Arizona --- WINNER
                      ** TULSA ADDED -

                      1-0





                      Teams that hit in more than one system without opposition hit a high percentage last year. Here they are:



                      ARIZONA --- WINNER

                      OREGON ST---WINNER

                      LSU----WINNER

                      MICH ST---LOSER

                      PENN ST---LOSER

                      VIRGINIA TECH----WINNER

                      MISSISSIPPI----WINNER

                      OHIO ST----WINNER

                      TULSA

                      ** ??? MISSOURI ( QUESTIONABLE IF THEY BELONGED ON EITHER SYSTEM)


                      6-2 THIS YEAR




                      TOTAL IS 28-11 OR 29-12 DEPENDING ON MIZZOU/ ALABAMA

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                      • #71
                        Sounds like it is time to bang Tulsa! Good...I didn't want to bet on the MAC.
                        Three Jack's Record http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/sh...10#post1323910

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