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  • #46
    here is something else that i just read....

    dogs in bowl games that won the previous year are 23-12 ats, including 15-3 ats vs. an opponent that won 8 or less games last year....




    Here would be the list of Dogs this year that won their bowl game last year:

    Utah *
    Fla Atl ----WINNER
    BYU *----LOSER
    ECU *
    Penn St
    Oregon *---WINNER
    WVU *
    LSU *
    Tulsa *

    * = opp won 8 or less games last year


    2-1 SO FAR THIS YEAR

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    • #47
      Other bowl systems / trends:


      2003-04 Season
      Dogs of 7 or better(meaning +8......) went 7-3 ATS 70%
      Favs of 6.5 or better(meaning -6,-5.5.....) went 9-6 ATS 60%
      For a total of 16-9 ATS 64% winners

      2004-05 Season
      Dogs of 7 or better went 7-2 ATS 78%
      Favs of 6.5 or beter went 10-7 59%
      For a total of 17-9 ATS 64% winners

      2005-06 Season
      Dogs of 7 or better went 13-1 ATS 93%
      Favs of 6.5 or better went 7-5 ATS 58%
      For a total of 20-6 ATS 77% winners

      2006-07 Season
      Dogs of 7 or better went 9-5 ATS 64%
      Favs of 6.5 or better went 8-11 ATS 42%
      For a total of 17-16 ATS 52% winners

      2007-08 Season
      Dogs of 7 or better went 7-3 ATS 70%
      Favs of 6.5 or better went 15-8 ATS 65%
      For a total of 23-11 ATS 68% winners

      *Includes buying .5 hook either way so -7 can be +7.5 or -6.5



      Wake Forest -3---- WINNER
      Fresno St -3'-------LOSER
      Memphis +13'--------LOSER
      Arizona -3'---------WINNER
      Troy -4------------LOSER
      TCU -2------------LOSER
      Notre Dame - 2'----WINNER
      Flor ATL + 7' ----WINNER
      WVU/UNC -1 -----PUSH
      Florida St -5------WINNER
      Miami + 9 ---------WINNER
      L TECH - 2 1/2 ---- WINNER
      NC St + 8 -------WINNER
      NW +13'----------WINNER
      Nevada -2--------LOSER
      Rice -3----------WINNER
      Oregon - 1 ---- WINNER
      Houston -3'
      Oregon St -2
      BC -3 1/2
      Minnesota +9
      GTech -4
      Iowa -3'
      Clemson -2'
      Penn St +9
      Cincy -2'
      Texas Tech -4
      Mich st + 7'
      ECU -2'
      Utah +10'
      UConn -4'
      Ohio St +10
      Ball St -2'
      Florida -3



      11-5 -1 SO FAR THIS YEAR


      FAVS OR 6 OR LESS = 7-4-1
      DOGS OF 7 OR MORE = 4-1

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      • #48
        *** NEW WINNING SYSTEM ****



        Here's an interesting stat for the bowl games I come accross on another board. 1-0 so far with Wake Forest winning and it has 2 more for today, So. Fla & Arizona, I was liking the Memphis & BYU. Will have to do somemore homework on these 2.

        11-1 last season:
        Here it is: Of the top 60 Sagarin-rated teams, FADE EVERY team ATS whose strength of schedule rating is 60 or worse unless they are facing a team whose SOS rating is even lower than theirs.

        So here are the teams to take ATS this year:
        1. Wake Forest win
        2. South Florida win
        3. Arizona win
        4. TCU loss
        5. Notre Dame win
        6. NC State win
        7. Missouri loss
        8. Maryland win
        9. Rice win
        10. Air Force
        11. Kansas
        12. USC
        13. Kentucky
        14. Alabama
        15. Connecticut
        16. Ball State



        7-2 THIS YEAR
        Last edited by GOLDENGREEK; 12-31-2008, 06:11 AM.

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        • #49
          Dino, you are the man...thanks for your work. EXCELLENT stuff!
          Three Jack's Record http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/sh...10#post1323910

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          • #50
            Moneyline / Rankings etc.. System

            This System went 33-14 last year !!!



            ** Some games overlapp and show up twice (Teams that hit in more than one system hit a high percentage last year) , other conflict and cancell each other out




            2 Units-Bet the dog if the teams have exactly the same won lost record

            THIS IS THE WEAKEST OF THE BUNCH -- WENT 2-3 LAST YEAR

            Maryland ----WINNER
            W Michigan---LOSER
            Oregon-----WINNER
            Minnesota--- LOSER
            Mich St
            Penn St
            Oklahoma


            2-2 SO FAR THIS YEAR




            3 Units and 5 Units
            Bet the team with the worst season record for 3 Units if a dog.
            If that team is a favorite, play them on the money line for a risk of 5 Units:



            THIS SYSTEM WHEN 19-7 LAST YEAR:

            3 UNIT PLAYS:

            Bet the team with the worst season record for 3 Units if a dog.

            Colo St--- WINNER
            Memphis---- LOSER
            So Miss----WINNER
            Fla Atl----WINNER
            Wisky---LOSER
            Miami---WINNER
            NC St----WINNER
            Vandy ---WINNER
            LSU------- WINNER
            So Carolina
            Va Tech
            Mississippi
            Kentucky
            Ohio St
            Tulsa

            7-2 SO FAR THIS YEAR






            5 UNIT PLAYS: If that team is a favorite, play them on the money line for a risk of 5 Units

            THIS SYSTEM WENT 10-1 LAST YEAR

            5 Unit Money Line Plays:

            Wake Forest ---WINNER
            Arizona-----WINNER
            TCU-------WINNER
            Notre Dame-----WINNER
            No Ill- ** became a 2 1/2 point dog ** void
            Houston ----WINNER
            Oregon St----WINNER
            Clemson
            UCONN

            2 MORE ARE QUESTIONABLE:

            ** Alabama ---Huge moneyline to lay 5 Units - Be Careful

            ??????** Missouri ---------- MISSOURI PLAYED AN EXTRA GAME - THEY ARE 9-4 AND NORTHWESTERN IS 9-3 - NOT SURE IF THIS SHOULD BE COUNTED

            6-0 or 6-1 depending on missouri










            Lower Ranked Teams as a dog to higher Ranked Teams

            THIS WENT 3-2 LAST YEAR

            Oregon --- WINNER
            Michigan St
            Penn St
            Va Tech
            Mississippi
            Utah
            Ohio St
            Oklahoma

            *** Florida ( ????? ) THESE TWO TEAMS ( OLKAHOMA / FLORIDA ) ARE EITHER HIGHER OR LOWER RANKED THAN THEIR OPPONENT DEPENDING ON WHICH POLL YOU LOOK AT

            1-0 SO FAR





            Lower Ranked Teams as a favorite vs Higher Ranked Teams

            THIS WENT 3-0 LAST YEAR

            TCU---------LOSER
            Oregon St -----WINNER


            1-1





            A team not Ranked as a dog to a Ranked Team:

            THIS WENT 6-1 LAST YEAR - NOT AS MANY OPPORTUNITIES THIS YEAR cry1

            LSU ---- WINNER
            Tulsa


            1-0






            A team not Ranked that is a favorite over a Ranked Team


            THIS WENT 1-1 LAST YEAR

            Arizona --- WINNER

            1-0





            Teams that hit in more than one system without opposition hit a high percentage last year. Here they are:



            ARIZONA --- WINNER

            OREGON ST---WINNER

            LSU----WINNER

            MICH ST

            PENN ST

            VIRGINIA TECH

            MISSISSIPPI

            OHIO ST

            TULSA

            ** ??? MISSOURI ( QUESTIONABLE IF THEY BELONGED ON EITHER SYSTEM)


            3-0 THIS YEAR




            TOTAL IS 19-5 OR 19-6 DEPENDING ON MIZZOU

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            • #51
              RUNNING DOG SYSTEM ...23-9 LAST YEAR


              This is a list of all of the best rushing teams in the bowl games. This system worked very well the last couple of years. The best scenario to look for is a team with the best rushing stats, with a good defense and getting the points etc.. This better "run" team info is based on (YPC gained vs opponents YPC allowed on offense & vice versa on defense).

              The best rush teams hit at a pretty high clip of over 60%..But if you pick and choose here with the other qualifications I listed above like good defense or tougher schedules etc. then you could really clean up with this system





              STOLEN / BORROWED FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THE SYSTEM

              I'm pretty much going to follow the same formula as I did last year. We had an outstanding bowl season with the running dogs. The better running teams in general were 22-10 SU and 23-9 ATS last year. But keep in mind that they aren't going to hit this well every year. In the 2006 bowl season the better running teams were 20-12 SU but only 18-14 ATS. So we have to be careful as we go, and to just remember that none of these Running Dogs are set in granite. The underdogs who had the better run numbers were 10-4 ATS last year. And 7-3 (71%) the season before. So that's why you really need to think hard before you go against a running dog. But at times we did last year. Remember the Arkansas/Missouri game. Arkansas had the much better run numbers and were the dogs in that game. But because of the other strong angles surrounding the game that went against Arkansas, I was on Missouri. So there will be exceptions to the rule. And I've already seen a couple running dogs that I will in all likihood be playing against.


              Here is the list of running dogs for this year ( 10-4 ATS last year ):


              Navy --------------LOSER
              Colorado St.--------WINNER
              BYU----------------LOSER
              Notre Dame--------WINNER
              Florida Atlantic-----WINNER
              Wisconsin ---------LOSER
              La Tech------------WINNER
              Western Michi------LOSER
              Oregon----- ------WINNER
              Air Force----------LOSER
              Nebraska
              Ole Miss
              Kentucky
              Tulsa


              5-5 SO FAR THIS YEAR COMPARED TO 10-4 LAST YEAR

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              • #52
                here is something else that i just read....

                dogs in bowl games that won the previous year are 23-12 ats, including 15-3 ats vs. an opponent that won 8 or less games last year....




                Here would be the list of Dogs this year that won their bowl game last year:

                Utah *
                Fla Atl ----WINNER
                BYU *----LOSER
                ECU *
                Penn St
                Oregon *---WINNER
                WVU *----LOSER
                LSU *---- WINNER
                Tulsa *

                * = opp won 8 or less games last year


                3-2 SO FAR THIS YEAR

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                • #53
                  Other bowl systems / trends:


                  2003-04 Season
                  Dogs of 7 or better(meaning +8......) went 7-3 ATS 70%
                  Favs of 6.5 or better(meaning -6,-5.5.....) went 9-6 ATS 60%
                  For a total of 16-9 ATS 64% winners

                  2004-05 Season
                  Dogs of 7 or better went 7-2 ATS 78%
                  Favs of 6.5 or beter went 10-7 59%
                  For a total of 17-9 ATS 64% winners

                  2005-06 Season
                  Dogs of 7 or better went 13-1 ATS 93%
                  Favs of 6.5 or better went 7-5 ATS 58%
                  For a total of 20-6 ATS 77% winners

                  2006-07 Season
                  Dogs of 7 or better went 9-5 ATS 64%
                  Favs of 6.5 or better went 8-11 ATS 42%
                  For a total of 17-16 ATS 52% winners

                  2007-08 Season
                  Dogs of 7 or better went 7-3 ATS 70%
                  Favs of 6.5 or better went 15-8 ATS 65%
                  For a total of 23-11 ATS 68% winners

                  *Includes buying .5 hook either way so -7 can be +7.5 or -6.5



                  Wake Forest -3---- WINNER
                  Fresno St -3'-------LOSER
                  Memphis +13'--------LOSER
                  Arizona -3'---------WINNER
                  Troy -4------------LOSER
                  TCU -2------------LOSER
                  Notre Dame - 2'----WINNER
                  Flor ATL + 7' ----WINNER
                  WVU/UNC -1 -----PUSH
                  Florida St -5------WINNER
                  Miami + 9 ---------WINNER
                  L TECH - 2 1/2 ---- WINNER
                  NC St + 8 -------WINNER
                  NW +13'----------WINNER
                  Nevada -2--------LOSER
                  Rice -3----------WINNER
                  Oregon - 1 ---- WINNER
                  Houston -3'----WINNER
                  Oregon St -2-----WINNER
                  Vndy + 7-----WINNER
                  Minnesota +9----LOSER
                  GTech -4----LOSER
                  Iowa -3'
                  Clemson -2'
                  Penn St +9
                  Cincy -2'
                  Texas Tech -4
                  Mich st + 7'
                  ECU -2'
                  Utah +10'
                  UConn -4'
                  Ohio St +10
                  Ball St -2'
                  Florida -3



                  14-7 -1 SO FAR THIS YEAR


                  FAVS OR 6 OR LESS = 8-5-1
                  DOGS OF 7 OR MORE = 5-2

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                  • #54
                    Here's an interesting stat for the bowl games I come accross on another board. 1-0 so far with Wake Forest winning and it has 2 more for today, So. Fla & Arizona, I was liking the Memphis & BYU. Will have to do somemore homework on these 2.

                    11-1 last season:
                    Here it is: Of the top 60 Sagarin-rated teams, FADE EVERY team ATS whose strength of schedule rating is 60 or worse unless they are facing a team whose SOS rating is even lower than theirs.

                    So here are the teams to take ATS this year:
                    1. Wake Forest win
                    2. South Florida win
                    3. Arizona win
                    4. TCU loss
                    5. Notre Dame win
                    6. NC State win
                    7. Missouri loss
                    8. Maryland win
                    9. Rice win
                    10. Air Force -loss
                    11. Kansas --win
                    12. USC
                    13. Kentucky
                    14. Alabama
                    15. Connecticut
                    16. Ball State



                    8-3 THIS YEAR

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                    • #55
                      update starts at post # 50

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                      • #56
                        GG Thanks for all the hard work you've put in
                        on this thread and the updates!!

                        TOUCHDOWN FAT BOY!

                        I was Born my Pappy's Son,
                        When I hit the ground, I was on the Run!
                        Jon E. Checkers

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                        • #57
                          Any system like this for the NFL playoffs? Looks like the system is doing quite well for the Bowl games. Thx for the info Greek!

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by packer34 View Post
                            any system like this for the nfl playoffs? Looks like the system is doing quite well for the bowl games. Thx for the info greek!
                            there are some "trends" but the nfl is a diffrent animal

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                            • #59
                              Moneyline / Rankings etc.. System

                              This System went 33-14 last year !!!



                              ** Some games overlapp and show up twice (Teams that hit in more than one system hit a high percentage last year) , other conflict and cancell each other out




                              2 Units-Bet the dog if the teams have exactly the same won lost record

                              THIS IS THE WEAKEST OF THE BUNCH -- WENT 2-3 LAST YEAR

                              Maryland ----WINNER
                              W Michigan---LOSER
                              Oregon-----WINNER
                              Minnesota--- LOSER
                              Mich St ---- LOSER
                              Penn St----- LOSER
                              Oklahoma


                              2-4 SO FAR THIS YEAR




                              3 Units and 5 Units
                              Bet the team with the worst season record for 3 Units if a dog.
                              If that team is a favorite, play them on the money line for a risk of 5 Units:



                              THIS SYSTEM WHEN 19-7 LAST YEAR:

                              3 UNIT PLAYS:

                              Bet the team with the worst season record for 3 Units if a dog.

                              Colo St--- WINNER
                              Memphis---- LOSER
                              So Miss----WINNER
                              Fla Atl----WINNER
                              Wisky---LOSER
                              Miami---WINNER
                              NC St----WINNER
                              Vandy ---WINNER
                              LSU------- WINNER
                              So Carolina -LOSER
                              Va Tech--- WINNER
                              Mississippi - -WINNER
                              Kentucky---WINNER
                              Ohio St
                              Tulsa

                              10-3 SO FAR THIS YEAR






                              5 UNIT PLAYS: If that team is a favorite, play them on the money line for a risk of 5 Units

                              THIS SYSTEM WENT 10-1 LAST YEAR

                              5 Unit Money Line Plays:

                              Wake Forest ---WINNER
                              Arizona-----WINNER
                              TCU-------WINNER
                              Notre Dame-----WINNER
                              No Ill- ** became a 2 1/2 point dog ** void
                              Houston ----WINNER
                              Oregon St----WINNER
                              Clemson----- LOSER
                              UCONN

                              2 MORE ARE QUESTIONABLE:

                              ** Alabama ---Huge moneyline to lay 5 Units - Be Careful

                              ??????** Missouri ---------- MISSOURI PLAYED AN EXTRA GAME - THEY ARE 9-4 AND NORTHWESTERN IS 9-3 - NOT SURE IF THIS SHOULD BE COUNTED

                              6-1 or 6-2 depending on missouri










                              Lower Ranked Teams as a dog to higher Ranked Teams

                              THIS WENT 3-2 LAST YEAR

                              Oregon --- WINNER
                              Michigan St--LOSER
                              Penn St---LOSER
                              Va Tech---WINNER
                              Mississippi -WINNER
                              Utah----WINNER
                              Ohio St
                              Oklahoma

                              *** Florida ( ????? ) THESE TWO TEAMS ( OLKAHOMA / FLORIDA ) ARE EITHER HIGHER OR LOWER RANKED THAN THEIR OPPONENT DEPENDING ON WHICH POLL YOU LOOK AT

                              5-2 SO FAR





                              Lower Ranked Teams as a favorite vs Higher Ranked Teams

                              THIS WENT 3-0 LAST YEAR

                              TCU---------LOSER
                              Oregon St -----WINNER


                              1-1





                              A team not Ranked as a dog to a Ranked Team:

                              THIS WENT 6-1 LAST YEAR - NOT AS MANY OPPORTUNITIES THIS YEAR cry1

                              LSU ---- WINNER
                              Tulsa


                              1-0






                              A team not Ranked that is a favorite over a Ranked Team


                              THIS WENT 1-1 LAST YEAR

                              Arizona --- WINNER

                              1-0





                              Teams that hit in more than one system without opposition hit a high percentage last year. Here they are:



                              ARIZONA --- WINNER

                              OREGON ST---WINNER

                              LSU----WINNER

                              MICH ST---LOSER

                              PENN ST---LOSER

                              VIRGINIA TECH----WINNER

                              MISSISSIPPI----WINNER

                              OHIO ST

                              TULSA

                              ** ??? MISSOURI ( QUESTIONABLE IF THEY BELONGED ON EITHER SYSTEM)


                              3-2 THIS YEAR




                              TOTAL IS 26-11 OR 26-12 DEPENDING ON MIZZOU

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                              • #60
                                RUNNING DOG SYSTEM ...23-9 LAST YEAR


                                This is a list of all of the best rushing teams in the bowl games. This system worked very well the last couple of years. The best scenario to look for is a team with the best rushing stats, with a good defense and getting the points etc.. This better "run" team info is based on (YPC gained vs opponents YPC allowed on offense & vice versa on defense).

                                The best rush teams hit at a pretty high clip of over 60%..But if you pick and choose here with the other qualifications I listed above like good defense or tougher schedules etc. then you could really clean up with this system





                                STOLEN / BORROWED FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THE SYSTEM

                                I'm pretty much going to follow the same formula as I did last year. We had an outstanding bowl season with the running dogs. The better running teams in general were 22-10 SU and 23-9 ATS last year. But keep in mind that they aren't going to hit this well every year. In the 2006 bowl season the better running teams were 20-12 SU but only 18-14 ATS. So we have to be careful as we go, and to just remember that none of these Running Dogs are set in granite. The underdogs who had the better run numbers were 10-4 ATS last year. And 7-3 (71%) the season before. So that's why you really need to think hard before you go against a running dog. But at times we did last year. Remember the Arkansas/Missouri game. Arkansas had the much better run numbers and were the dogs in that game. But because of the other strong angles surrounding the game that went against Arkansas, I was on Missouri. So there will be exceptions to the rule. And I've already seen a couple running dogs that I will in all likihood be playing against.


                                Here is the list of running dogs for this year ( 10-4 ATS last year ):


                                Navy --------------LOSER
                                Colorado St.--------WINNER
                                BYU----------------LOSER
                                Notre Dame--------WINNER
                                Florida Atlantic-----WINNER
                                Wisconsin ---------LOSER
                                La Tech------------WINNER
                                Western Michi------LOSER
                                Oregon----- ------WINNER
                                Air Force----------LOSER
                                Nebraska ---------WINNER
                                Ole Miss----------WINNER
                                Kentucky--------WINNER
                                Tulsa


                                8-5 SO FAR THIS YEAR COMPARED TO 10-4 LAST YEAR

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