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  • BOWL SYSTEMS / RUNNING DOGS + ML & RANKING SYSTEMS ( 33-14 and 23-9 LAST YEAR ) !!

    ** CAUTION / DISCLAIMER ** :

    SYSTEMS CHANGE EACH AND EVERY YEAR

    VEGAS IS VERY AWARE OF THESE SYSTEMS AND AJUSTS ACCORDINGLY

    USE THIS ONLY AS A TOOL TO OUR OWN HANDICAPPING - NOT A BIBLE

    LAST YEARS RESULTS DO NOT GUARENTEE THE SAME RESULTS THIS YEAR !!!


    *** PLEASE LOOK THESE OVER AND DOUBLE CHECK !!!!

    IF I HAVE MADE A MISTAKE ( MOST LIKELY ) PLEASE POINT IT OUT !!!!!!





    gl !!
    Last edited by GOLDENGREEK; 12-17-2008, 03:21 AM.

  • #2
    IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR WANT TO LOOK AT LAST YEARS RESULTS PLEASE VISIT THIS THREAD:


    http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/al...take-look.html



    Moneyline / Rankings etc.. System

    This System went 33-14 last year !!!



    ** Some games overlapp and show up twice (Teams that hit in more than one system hit a high percentage last year) , other conflict and cancell each other out




    2 Units-Bet the dog if the teams have exactly the same won lost record

    Maryland
    W Michigan
    Oregon
    Minnesota
    Mich St
    Penn St
    Oklahoma




    3 Units and 5 Units
    Bet the team with the worst season record for 3 Units if a dog.
    If that team is a favorite, play them on the money line for a risk of 5 Units:



    3 UNIT PLAYS:

    Bet the team with the worst season record for 3 Units if a dog.

    Colo St
    Memphis
    So Miss
    Notre Dame ----- ** WATCH THIS AS ITS CLOSE TO A PK NOW
    Fla Atl
    Wisky
    Miami
    NC St
    Vandy
    LSU
    So Carolina
    Va Tech
    Mississippi
    Kentucky
    Ohio St
    Tulsa







    5 UNIT PLAYS: If that team is a favorite, play them on the money line for a risk of 5 Units


    5 Unit Money Line Plays:

    Wake Forest
    Arizona
    TCU
    No Ill
    Houston
    Oregon St
    Clemson
    UCONN

    2 MORE ARE QUESTIONABLE:

    ** Alabama ---Huge moneyline to lay 5 Units - Be Careful

    ** Missouri ---------- MISSOURI PLAYED AN EXTRA GAME - THEY ARE 9-4 AND NORTHWESTERN IS 9-3 - NOT SURE IF THIS SHOULD BE COUNTED





    Lower Ranked Teams as a dog to higher Ranked Teams

    Michigan St
    Penn St
    Va Tech
    Mississippi
    Utah
    Ohio St
    Oklahoma
    Oregon
    *** Florida ( ????? ) THESE TWO TEAMS ( OLKAHOMA / FLORIDA ) ARE EITHER HIGHER OR LOWER RANKED THAN THEIR OPPONENT DEPENDING ON WHICH POLL YOU LOOK AT





    Lower Ranked Teams as a favorite vs Higher Ranked Teams

    TCU
    Oregon St

    *** THESE TWO TEAMS BELOW ARE EITHER HIGHER OR LOWER RANKED THAN THEIR OPPONENT DEPENDING ON WHICH POLL YOU LOOK AT :

    Oklahoma St ( ??? )
    Missouri ( ???? )



    A team not Ranked as a dog to a Ranked Team:

    LSU
    Tulsa



    A team not Ranked that is a favorite over a Ranked Team



    Arizona




    Teams that hit in more than one system without opposition hit a high percentage last year. Here they are:



    ARIZONA

    OREGON ST

    LSU

    MICH ST

    PENN ST

    VIRGINIA TECH

    MISSISSIPPI

    OHIO ST

    TULSA

    ** ??? MISSOURI ( QUESTIONABLE IF THEY BELONGED ON EITHER SYSTEM)




    Games that have one system or more for each side:


    Oregon ( Twice ) -Oklahoma St ( Once )
    Utah ( Once) - Alabama ( Once )
    Oklahoma ( Twice ) - Florida ( Once )



    Running dog system coming up next !!


    GL !!
    Last edited by GOLDENGREEK; 12-17-2008, 04:07 AM.

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    • #3
      RUNNING DOG SYSTEM ...23-9 LAST YEAR


      This is a list of all of the best rushing teams in the bowl games. This system worked very well the last couple of years. The best scenario to look for is a team with the best rushing stats, with a good defense and getting the points etc.. This better "run" team info is based on (YPC gained vs opponents YPC allowed on offense & vice versa on defense).

      The best rush teams hit at a pretty high clip of over 60%..But if you pick and choose here with the other qualifications I listed above like good defense or tougher schedules etc. then you could really clean up with this system





      STOLEN / BORROWED FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THE SYSTEM

      I'm pretty much going to follow the same formula as I did last year. We had an outstanding bowl season with the running dogs. The better running teams in general were 22-10 SU and 23-9 ATS last year. But keep in mind that they aren't going to hit this well every year. In the 2006 bowl season the better running teams were 20-12 SU but only 18-14 ATS. So we have to be careful as we go, and to just remember that none of these Running Dogs are set in granite. The underdogs who had the better run numbers were 10-4 ATS last year. And 7-3 (71%) the season before. So that's why you really need to think hard before you go against a running dog. But at times we did last year. Remember the Arkansas/Missouri game. Arkansas had the much better run numbers and were the dogs in that game. But because of the other strong angles surrounding the game that went against Arkansas, I was on Missouri. So there will be exceptions to the rule. And I've already seen a couple running dogs that I will in all likihood be playing against.


      Here is the list of running dogs for this year ( 10-4 ATS last year ):



      Navy
      Colorado St.
      BYU
      Notre Dame
      Florida Atlantic
      Wisconsin (HUGE)
      La Tech
      Western Michigan
      Oregon (HUGE-Better defense too)
      Air Force
      Nebraska
      Ole Miss
      Kentucky
      Tulsa


      gl
      Last edited by GOLDENGREEK; 12-17-2008, 04:42 AM.

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      • #4
        IF ANYONE WANTS TO FIGURE OUT WHO THE BETTER RUSHING TEAM FOR EACH GAME IS REGARDLESS IF THEY ARE A FAVORITE OR A DOG

        HERE IS THE SYSTEM:

        HOW TO FIGURE OUT SYSTEM # 1 "RUNNING DOG "


        1. (Team's offensive ypr) - (opponents this year defensive ypr allowed)


        2. (Opponents this year offensive ypr) - (Team's defensive ypr)


        3. Add 1 @ 2 to get teams rushing number.

        4. Do same for their opponent .

        5. The team with the higher number is the better rushing team.


        I will do the Navy/Wake Forest game as an example.

        Navy's ypr on offense is 5.4, their opponents ypr allowed is 4.7so (5.4 - 4.7 = 0.7).

        Just to be clear, opponent's ypr allowed is the average of all the teams they've played this year and not the team they're currently playing.

        Their opponents ypr on offense is 3.7 and Navy's ypr allowed is 3.6 so (3.7 - 3.6 = 0.1).

        Navy's rushing number is (0.7 + 0.1 = 0.8).

        Wake's ypr on offense is 2.9 and their opponents ypr allowed is 3.6 so (2.9 - 3.6 = -0.7).

        Wake's opponents offensive ypr is 4.2 while their ypr allowed is 3.4 so (4.2 - 3.4 = 0.8).

        Wake's rushing number is (-0.7 + 0.8 = 0.1). Navy (0.8) - Wake (0.1) shows navy to be the better rushing team with an 0.7 ypr advantage which is expected, the only thing keeping the number from being bigger is Wake's rush defense which only allows 3.4 ypr to teams that would normally average 4.2 ypr.

        ** Delete any non div. 1A teams.

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        • #5
          Here is the list of teams that fit all systems above with no opposition

          # in parenthesis is how many systems they fell under:


          Colorado st ( 2 )
          Memphis ( 1 )
          S. Miss ( 1 )
          TCU ( 1 )
          NOTRE DAME ( 2 )
          Flor Atl.( 2 )
          Wisconsin ( 2 )
          Miami ( 1 )
          NC St ( 1 )
          ** Missou ( 2 ) questionable
          Maryland ( 1 )
          W. Mich ( 2 )
          Oregon ( 3 )
          Org st ( 2 )
          Vandy ( 1 )
          Minny ( 1 )
          LSU ( 2 )
          S. Carolina ( 1 )
          Mich st ( 2 )
          Penn st ( 2 )
          V Tech ( 2 )
          Mississippi ( 3 )
          Kentucky ( 2 )
          UConn ( 1 )
          Ohio st ( 1 )
          Tulsa ( 3 )


          gl !!!!!!!!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by goldengreek View Post

            5 unit plays: If that team is a favorite, play them on the money line for a risk of 5 units


            5 unit money line plays:

            Wake forest
            arizona
            tcu
            no ill
            houston
            oregon st
            clemson
            uconn

            2 more are questionable:

            ** alabama ---huge moneyline to lay 5 units - be careful

            ** missouri ---------- missouri played an extra game - they are 9-4 and northwestern is 9-3 - not sure if this should be counted

            the favs with the worse record went 10-1 straight up last year



            .

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            • #7
              Originally posted by GOLDENGREEK View Post
              RUNNING DOG SYSTEM ...23-9 LAST YEAR


              This is a list of all of the best rushing teams in the bowl games. This system worked very well the last couple of years. The best scenario to look for is a team with the best rushing stats, with a good defense and getting the points etc.. This better "run" team info is based on (YPC gained vs opponents YPC allowed on offense & vice versa on defense).

              The best rush teams hit at a pretty high clip of over 60%..But if you pick and choose here with the other qualifications I listed above like good defense or tougher schedules etc. then you could really clean up with this system





              STOLEN / BORROWED FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THE SYSTEM

              I'm pretty much going to follow the same formula as I did last year. We had an outstanding bowl season with the running dogs. The better running teams in general were 22-10 SU and 23-9 ATS last year. But keep in mind that they aren't going to hit this well every year. In the 2006 bowl season the better running teams were 20-12 SU but only 18-14 ATS. So we have to be careful as we go, and to just remember that none of these Running Dogs are set in granite. The underdogs who had the better run numbers were 10-4 ATS last year. And 7-3 (71%) the season before. So that's why you really need to think hard before you go against a running dog. But at times we did last year. Remember the Arkansas/Missouri game. Arkansas had the much better run numbers and were the dogs in that game. But because of the other strong angles surrounding the game that went against Arkansas, I was on Missouri. So there will be exceptions to the rule. And I've already seen a couple running dogs that I will in all likihood be playing against.


              Here is the list of running dogs for this year ( 10-4 ATS last year ):



              Navy
              Colorado St.
              BYU
              Notre Dame
              Florida Atlantic
              Wisconsin (HUGE)
              La Tech
              Western Michigan
              Oregon (HUGE-Better defense too)
              Air Force
              Nebraska
              Ole Miss
              Kentucky
              Tulsa


              gl


              HERE ARE MY RESULTS FOR THE RUNNING DOGS

              I DIFFER WITH THE ORIGINATOR OF THE SYTEM IN A THE FRESNO / COL ST GAME:




              Navy +0.7
              Fresno +0.6 ( Ran the numbers several times and keeps coming up Fresno)
              S. Florida +0.8
              BYU +0.1
              Troy +1.0
              TCU +0.8
              N. DAME +0.2
              Fla. Atl. +0.8
              W. Virginia +1.8
              Wisconsin + 1.5
              California +1.6
              La Tech +1.5
              Rutgers +1.5
              Missouri +1.7
              Nevada +2.5
              W. Mich. +1.1
              Oregon +1.6
              Air Force +0.2
              Pitt +0.1
              Boston Coll. +0.9
              Kansas +0.7
              Ga. Tech +0.9
              Iowa +2.0
              Nebraska +1.1
              Georgia +1.1
              USC +0.6
              va. tech/Cinc. Even
              Ole Miss +0.8
              Kentucky +0.3
              Alabama +1.5
              Uconn +2.1
              Texas +0.6
              Tulsa +.04
              Florida +1.2

              Except for Fresno the results were pretty close to the previous post.



              PLEASE POINT OUT ANY MISTAKES !

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              • #8
                very interesting -
                I appreciate and applaud the work that you put into this.
                thank you & good luck

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                • #9
                  greek cant thank u enough buddy thanks a million
                  rjeremy for my accounts manager/i love how he keeps numbers

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                  • #10
                    thanks for sharing...GL
                    It's always noon somewhere!

                    My Fish and Aquariums

                    Griffey's Posted Record

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                    • #11
                      oustanding information to share with everyone.

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                      • #12
                        Good luck Greek

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                        • #13
                          This is great info Dino ... Thanks for sharing ...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by GOLDENGREEK View Post
                            the favs with the worse record went 10-1 straight up last year



                            .
                            anyone else find that amazing? Considering a team with a worse record would probably not be too heavy a favorite, this looks the most interesting of anything posted. Thanks GG
                            "CFB YTD: 5-8-1 -16.2"

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                            • #15
                              So is this the list of running dogs this year?? Sorry if I am being stupid here: I am assuming that I should play these games.?

                              Navy
                              Colorado St.
                              BYU
                              Notre Dame
                              Florida Atlantic
                              Wisconsin (HUGE)
                              La Tech
                              Western Michigan
                              Oregon (HUGE-Better defense too)
                              Air Force
                              Nebraska
                              Ole Miss
                              Kentucky
                              Tulsa
                              Let's Hammer the Book.

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