Which is the better Football program?

[wayne1218]

No man, I missed it. Pretty interesting?

It was VERY interesting. Most don't think he has a chance to succeed. Kyle Busch was one of them. Jimmie Johnson driving a race for him is going to be huge. You should check it out when it's on again. It was a great look behind the scenes in the truck series. I love E60. Great show!

[KazDog]

Actually i just read the WHOLE thread again about 20 minutes ago. How do you think i went all the way back to post #100 to quote pimp?


I saw you admit earlier in the thread that you were not an elite program or something like that. It was about the closet post in this thread you had to reality so that's good enough for me!

Why don't you tell me what I'm wrong about in this thread Mod Tool.....Please tell me what I misrepresented. I'm going to love reading this. Just because this jackass posts some ignorant thread, because he's a big baby that I didn't kiss his wonderful Sooner's ass? Because I told him like it is, that his wonderful Sooners are losers the last two years and have underacheived.....Go back and tell me what I've said is incorrect. Please do.

Jackass needed this thread to affirm his team's greatness because they have been shit and beaten by lesser talent the last two years, and really, the last 5 years. So you all bought in and decided that I have said Fresno is a better football program than OU. Where did I say that?

Fresno St has done more with less. For the most part, they overachieve and have wanted to play any team in this country that will play. And they are willing to play them on their own field......But they can't get them to schedule them. Funny how you couldn't answer as to why K State pulled out of playing those piece of shits from Fresno.

[wayne1218]

Why don't you tell me what I'm wrong about in this thread Mod Tool.....Please tell me what I misrepresented. I'm going to love reading this. Just because this jackass posts some ignorant thread, because he's a big baby that I didn't kiss his wonderful Sooner's ass? Because I told him like it is, that his wonderful Sooners are losers the last two years and have underacheived.....Go back and tell me what I've said is incorrect. Please do.

Jackass needed this thread to affirm his team's greatness because they have been shit and beaten by lesser talent the last two years, and really, the last 5 years. So you all bought in and decided that I have said Fresno is a better football program than OU. Where did I say that?

Fresno St has done more with less. For the most part, they overachieve and have wanted to play any team in this country that will play. And they are willing to play them on their own field......But they can't get them to schedule them. Funny how you couldn't answer as to why K State pulled out of playing those piece of shits from Fresno.

All i read was line 1 in your post Kaz and this is my answer. Read the thread title. You are arguing that? Answer the question with a simple Fresno or Oklahoma?


Your answer will either shut me up, or prove my point. Thanks in advance!


WAY

[kbsooner21]

It was VERY interesting. Most don't think he has a chance to succeed. Kyle Busch was one of them. Jimmie Johnson driving a race for him is going to be huge. You should check it out when it's on again. It was a great look behind the scenes in the truck series. I love E60. Great show!

What was Shrub's argument? I think if Moss gets the right people in place, he has a great chance at achieving success. I agree 100% about JJ. The truck series has some of the best racing imo, just not enought big name drivers.

[kbsooner21]

OMG...

WAY

[wayne1218]

What was Shrub's argument? I think if Moss gets the right people in place, he has a great chance at achieving success. I agree 100% about JJ. The truck series has some of the best racing imo, just not enought big name drivers.

It was all about money and how expensive the sport is. He has single races sponsors but not a full time one. Many were talking finances and how tough it is. They had Aikman on there and he got out because it was too tough. Randy says he will dig deep in his pockets for awhile. It was really interesting. Joe Gibbs said he thinks it is the toughest thing he has done trying to succeed.

[kbsooner21]

It was all about money and how expensive the sport is. He has single races sponsors but not a full time one. Many were talking finances and how tough it is. They had Aikman on there and he got out because it was too tough. Randy says he will dig deep in his pockets for awhile. It was really interesting. Joe Gibbs said he thinks it is the toughest thing he has done trying to succeed.

There is no doubt about that. Look at how few Cup cars show up week in and week out now. I believe there were 53 that showed up for the 500, down to 44 on the entry list for this week. Ganassi shutting down the 40 car was a big eye opener for me. I couldn't believe a well established mutli car team couldn't carry on

[KazDog]

All i read was line 1 in your post Kaz and this is my answer. Read the thread title. You are arguing that? Answer the question with a simple Fresno or Oklahoma?


Your answer will either shut me up, or prove my point. Thanks in advance!


WAY

1st of all. Who fucking started this thread? You are assuming that I said Fresno has a better football program in history. Aren't you? That's just ridiculous.

2nd. Facts are facts. OU isn't the same team as they have been in the past. THEY HAVE UNDERACHIEVED for the past two years by great lengths. I think as of last year, Fresno St has a better program going on. They do more with less. They have scheduled the best teams they possibly can. They aren't backing down from anyone. They are a mid major who has a better record against BCS teams than any midmajor in the country. I listed their quality wins and NFL players.

3rd. Saying OU is great is like saying Notre Dame is great right now. ND has a great storied program. But perinnually they are overrated. Fresno St works its way from the bottom and claws its way to the where they are. In the top 25 this year. OU starts out at the top and ends up sliding.

Does this mean that Fresno St has a better football program than OU over the past 30 years? No. Are they better the last 5 years. Depends on your perspective. Oklahoma is in a better conference, they have more money, pay their coach 3 times more than any other coach in the country, have more money in the program, have more history and yet they haven't done anything with that talent the past two years and are 1-4 in the Bowls the past 5.

So I will again say.....Fresno St has done more with a hell of a lot less. And OU has done less, with a hell of a lot more. PERIOD

[kbsooner21]

Being the big politcal man you are Kaz, keep skewing those numbers. Why don't we go back 8 years and improve that bowl record to 4-4 with 1 national title? Oh wait, that doesn't help your argument does it?

[wayne1218]

2nd. Facts are facts. OU isn't the same team as they have been in the past. THEY HAVE UNDERACHIEVED for the past two years by great lengths.

Facts or opinion of yours kaz?

You know who underachieved? A team that couldn't win the ultimate shit Conference called the WAC. The conference name seems to reflect it's fans!

[wayne1218]

3rd. Saying OU is great is like saying Notre Dame is great right now.

OMG...


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Notre Dame hasn't sniffed a bcs game and Oklahoma has sniffed plenty. No comparison you wrench!

[wayne1218]

All i read was line 1 in your post Kaz and this is my answer. Read the thread title. You are arguing that? Answer the question with a simple Fresno or Oklahoma?


Your answer will either shut me up, or prove my point. Thanks in advance!


WAY

Thanks for proving my point Kaz!

[KazDog]

Being the big politcal man you are Kaz, keep skewing those numbers. Why don't we go back 8 years and improve that bowl record to 4-4 with 1 national title? Oh wait, that doesn't help your argument does it?

No, but going back 14 years and they are 4-6. Guess that doesn't help your argument either, does it? Didn't even make a bowl game for 4 years.....Nice record in the bowls. 4-6

I guess because Fresno St won the National Championship in baseball this year, they are now considered the elite baseball program in the country.

OU hasn't done shit for two years in the BCS. Try as you might to prove they are a great program still, they are losers the past two years to lesser talent. That's the point and always has been. I'm not admitting to being wrong about that at any time.....They lost. To a team that was a Div II school 5 years ago and got killed by WV. Keep trying to pour honey on a turd to make it taste better in your mouth....

[KazDog]

Facts or opinion of yours kaz?

You know who underachieved? A team that couldn't win the ultimate shit Conference called the WAC. The conference name seems to reflect it's fans!

Whatever ding dong.....They didn't win the WAC because Boise St was a better team and showed it by beating, who was it? Oh yeah, that's right.....Oklahoma

[kbsooner21]

No, but going back 14 years and they are 4-6. Guess that doesn't help your argument either, does it? Didn't even make a bowl game for 4 years.....Nice record in the bowls. 4-6

I guess because Fresno St won the National Championship in baseball this year, they are now considered the elite baseball program in the country.

OU hasn't done shit for two years in the BCS. Try as you might to prove they are a great program still, they are losers the past two years to lesser talent. That's the point and always has been. I'm not admitting to being wrong about that at any time.....They lost. To a team that was a Div II school 5 years ago and got killed by WV. Keep trying to pour honey on a turd to make it taste better in your mouth....

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